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Hey guys.. Why did God plant a tree in the middle of the garden KNOWING a typical immature selfish WOMAN will eat of the forbidden fruit and spineless weak unmanly Adam will give in and now all human is cursed. So He put a plan only for it to fail and He knew this? Why doesn't God just kill Satan and evil and just be done with it?
Why does God create billions of humans only for a small % of them to go to heaven and the larger % going to hell? What's the point if again, it all fails
And HONEST question.. Why does God want to be worshiped and praised by all humans all day , all night forever? if we don't worship God, we go to hell? is that REALLY freewill ? or .....
 
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now all human is cursed.
The ground was cursed. @Dino246 has a good explanation/take on this.

So He put a plan only for it to fail and He knew this?
Eh? The plan has failed? This is news to me.

is that REALLY freewill ?
I do not believe the Bible teaches free will. The natural man is under the influence and power
of the god of this world who has blinded them, and some are explicitly said to be taken captive
to the will of the devil. Where is the freedom in that? It is Jesus Who sets us free.
Praise the Lord for He is good, His love endures forever!



"Free will" in the Bible? ~ Freedom is something believers are called to (Galatians 5 verse 13). We need Jesus to “set us free” (Galatians 5 verse 1). If Jesus has not freed us from the bondage of sin, then we are still slaves to sin (Romans 6 verses 6-7). Freedom is found in the presence of the Spirit (2 Corinthians 3 verse 17). Only Jesus can give us true freedom (John 8 verse 36). Only through His lovingkindness can we truly make choices unfettered by a nature that is inherently hostile toward God.
 

Lynx

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Hey guys.. Why did God plant a tree in the middle of the garden KNOWING a typical immature selfish WOMAN will eat of the forbidden fruit and spineless weak unmanly Adam will give in and now all human is cursed. So He put a plan only for it to fail and He knew this? Why doesn't God just kill Satan and evil and just be done with it?
Why does God create billions of humans only for a small % of them to go to heaven and the larger % going to hell? What's the point if again, it all fails
And HONEST question.. Why does God want to be worshiped and praised by all humans all day , all night forever? if we don't worship God, we go to hell? is that REALLY freewill ? or .....
Here we go
One more time
Everybody's
Feeling fine
Here we go now

First, howdy and welcome to the forum.

Second, I do hope you're aware that your questions are very common troll questions. If you are asking these sincerely, please know that they are often (very, very, very often) asked questions from trolls. If you are just trolling, know that we have seen these all before and you should bring something better if you want to troll here.
 

Gideon300

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Hey guys.. Why did God plant a tree in the middle of the garden KNOWING a typical immature selfish WOMAN will eat of the forbidden fruit and spineless weak unmanly Adam will give in and now all human is cursed. So He put a plan only for it to fail and He knew this? Why doesn't God just kill Satan and evil and just be done with it?
Why does God create billions of humans only for a small % of them to go to heaven and the larger % going to hell? What's the point if again, it all fails
And HONEST question.. Why does God want to be worshiped and praised by all humans all day , all night forever? if we don't worship God, we go to hell? is that REALLY freewill ? or .....
Your premises are wrong. God did not create a weak unmanly Adam and an immature and selfish woman. Adam and Eve were created good. Adam had the power to name thousands of animals and birds. I struggle to find usernames and passwords and remember them. I have trouble remembering the names of people I've met.

God created Adam and Eve for a purpose. God gave Adam dominion over all the creatures of the earth. That included Satan. Satan had been cast down to the earth because of his proud rebellion.

God gave Adam free will. Adam had just one prohibition. He blew it. Because of his capitulation to Satan's temptation, mankind has become separated from God. One aspect of God's nature is that of father. I know what it means to be estranged from my children.

God knew what Adam would do. God also made provision to restore mankind to His family. That was at the cost of His own Son. Sin separates man from God. Jesus allowed all the sin of mankind to be laid on Him. All mankind sins and deserves only eternal separation from God, commonly called hell. In reality, everyone that is not born again is in hell now. They just don't know it.

Mankind has an inbuilt desire to worship something. People worship celebrities or sports stars, for example. Some worship their spouse or their family. Some make idols of their job or their vehicle.

You obviously do not know God. "Praise" is being thankful and appreciative of what God has done. That's normal. If your doctor discovered you had a serious illness and prescribed something to cure it, you'd thank the doctor. Man's sickness is deadly and there is no cure because man himself is the problem. However, God Himself provides the cure. I thank God daily for saving me.

Worship is acknowledging God for who He is. When you see God, not with human eyes but spiritual eyesight, you cannot help but worship. And the act of worship blesses the worshiper also. It allows the believer to draw close to God. In His presence there is the fullest joy. There is peace beyond understanding.

Unbelievers are terrified at the thought of being close to God. Those who die in unbelief will not want to be in heaven. They will wish that they had not rejected God in this lifetime, but there is no second chance, only the second death. Repent and receive Christ now, before it is too late. Then you will understand.
 

Lynx

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Your premises are wrong. God did not create a weak unmanly Adam and an immature and selfish woman. Adam and Eve were created good. Adam had the power to name thousands of animals and birds. I struggle to find usernames and passwords and remember them. I have trouble remembering the names of people I've met.

God created Adam and Eve for a purpose. God gave Adam dominion over all the creatures of the earth. That included Satan. Satan had been cast down to the earth because of his proud rebellion.

God gave Adam free will. Adam had just one prohibition. He blew it. Because of his capitulation to Satan's temptation, mankind has become separated from God. One aspect of God's nature is that of father. I know what it means to be estranged from my children.

God knew what Adam would do. God also made provision to restore mankind to His family. That was at the cost of His own Son. Sin separates man from God. Jesus allowed all the sin of mankind to be laid on Him. All mankind sins and deserves only eternal separation from God, commonly called hell. In reality, everyone that is not born again is in hell now. They just don't know it.

Mankind has an inbuilt desire to worship something. People worship celebrities or sports stars, for example. Some worship their spouse or their family. Some make idols of their job or their vehicle.

You obviously do not know God. "Praise" is being thankful and appreciative of what God has done. That's normal. If your doctor discovered you had a serious illness and prescribed something to cure it, you'd thank the doctor. Man's sickness is deadly and there is no cure because man himself is the problem. However, God Himself provides the cure. I thank God daily for saving me.

Worship is acknowledging God for who He is. When you see God, not with human eyes but spiritual eyesight, you cannot help but worship. And the act of worship blesses the worshiper also. It allows the believer to draw close to God. In His presence there is the fullest joy. There is peace beyond understanding.

Unbelievers are terrified at the thought of being close to God. Those who die in unbelief will not want to be in heaven. They will wish that they had not rejected God in this lifetime, but there is no second chance, only the second death. Repent and receive Christ now, before it is too late. Then you will understand.
Oh come on lad. Let's have a bit o fun with the blighter afore we squish him wit logic.
 

Eli1

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I agree with Lynx.
I think the answer to the OP’s question is that God did all this so Trump could he elected in order to BAN Pride month so then level 1 Reddit atheists would provide endless entertainment for the masses.
 
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Why does God create billions of humans only for a small % of them to go to heaven and the larger % going to hell? What's the point if again, it all fails
He offers salvation to all. That most reject Him is their doing, not His. Sin is deceptive as well as destructive.

Why does God want to be worshiped and praised by all humans all day , all night forever? if we don't worship God, we go to hell? is that REALLY freewill ? or .....
God delights in worship, but to say He "wants" it is missing the truth. He has no need of it, but He created us with both the need to worship Him and the freedom of will to reject Him. That way, the worship that is freely offered to Him is genuine, not forced.

As for "hell", that is the destination for people because of their sin, not because God wants to send them there. God's holiness requires a penalty for sin: death. As the ultimate expression of His love, He came and paid the full price for our sin. We can either accept the sacrifice Jesus made in our place, and give Him the place in our lives that He therefore deserves, or we can pay the penalty for our sin on our own.

It's a fairly simple and straightforward choice. Have you made yours?
 
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Hey guys.. Why did God plant a tree in the middle of the garden KNOWING a typical immature selfish WOMAN will eat of the forbidden fruit and spineless weak unmanly Adam will give in and now all human is cursed. So He put a plan only for it to fail and He knew this? Why doesn't God just kill Satan and evil and just be done with it?
Why does God create billions of humans only for a small % of them to go to heaven and the larger % going to hell? What's the point if again, it all fails
And HONEST question.. Why does God want to be worshiped and praised by all humans all day , all night forever? if we don't worship God, we go to hell? is that REALLY freewill ? or .....

Hello Crash Override.

There's nothing wrong with questions.
However, I sense that I could go back and forth to answer your questions and you would not be convinced beyond your preconceived bias.
If you are a truth seeker you will learn the Truth and He will make you free.

The most important question we all need to answer is whether or not we are 100% certain we will go to heaven when we die?

To help you out, I am posting a short video discussion with an agnostic for you.
I hope you are blessed too.

Good News for This Agnostic <
 

Tall_Timbers

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Why is it so hard to believe that God's plan is perfectly perfect and if we ever wonder about some of the details, why can't we just remember that we have tiny little corrupt brains and can't imagine/think on the level that the Creator of the Universe does, that wonderful loving God who knit each of us together in our mother's wombs.