666 and Islam?

[greenonions]

Revelation 13:16 (NKJV) Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.

The man seems to be Solomon because he received 666 talents of gold year by year (1 Kings 10:14; 2 Chronicles 9:13), and he has wisdom and understanding (1 Kings 4:29).

The Hebrew Old Testament was written with consonants only. So Solomon would be something like SLMN (not exactly, but you get the idea). Hebrew and related languages also have 3-consonant roots as the basis of words, so, let's consider the first three consonants: SLM. Notice how you spell Islam with only consonants: SLM.

What do you think?

 

[Magenta]

Revelation 13:16 (NKJV) Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate
the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.

The verse that belongs with that citation should be

He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,

NKJV Revelation 13 verse 18 reads

Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number
of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.

 

[Mem]

Revelation 13:16 (NKJV) Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.

The man seems to be Solomon because he received 666 talents of gold year by year (1 Kings 10:14; 2 Chronicles 9:13), and he has wisdom and understanding (1 Kings 4:29).

The Hebrew Old Testament was written with consonants only. So Solomon would be something like SLMN (not exactly, but you get the idea). Hebrew and related languages also have 3-consonant roots as the basis of words, so, let's consider the first three consonants: SLM. Notice how you spell Islam with only consonants: SLM.

What do you think?

If you calculate it according to Gematria, the Hebrew number system, 's' is 60, 'l' is 30, and 'm' is '40', so there's only 130 there, and the 'n' only adds 50 for a total of 180.
I'm not saying that you aren't on to something there, somewhere, but that you'd have to keep looking for a more compelling argument for it.

 

[GWH]

If you calculate it according to Gematria, the Hebrew number system, 's' is 60, 'l' is 30, and 'm' is '40', so there's only 130 there, and the 'n' only adds 50 for a total of 180.
I'm not saying that you aren't on to something there, somewhere, but that you'd have to keep looking for a more compelling argument for it.

Yes, and 666 could apply to all who are anti-Christ.

 

[Komentaja]

The verse that belongs with that citation should be

He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,

NKJV Revelation 13 verse 18 reads

Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number
of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.

What I always found remarkable about this verse is it plainly tells you the number, then tells you to calculate it.

There is a false prophet in the Bible, the last descendant of a man, 666th descendant, his name is Shemaiah the Nehelamite. If you calculate his number it would be 425. That plus the fact that in hebrew numbers are letters, it would fulfill having either the number of his name or the name of the beast.

This is all just speculation, we will know for sure when its here.

 

[Komentaja]

Islam is a demonic system there is no doubt about it and they will be playing a major part in the last days when it comes to attacking and surrounding Israel.

When it comes to the man of sin, I doubt he will be a devout muslim, jew or christian because in all these faiths, proclaiming yourself to be God in any sort of way would violate monotheism. He may be a muslim on paper, remains to be seen.

 

[ConfirmByDoing]

Look at 600, 60 and 6 in the Greek. Then look at the phrase "in the name of Allah" in Arabic. Greek is read left to right, Arabic is read right to left. Then look at what Islamic warriors wear on their forehead and right arm.

Dr. Missler is older here but still very effective. The Spirit's work through him has uncovered several things in the Bible...

Also John MacArthur putting together some pieces of this puzzle...

Even though Sam Shamoun has gone off the rails lately(I now find this video ironic for him and pray the Lord restores him), he and Avery(aka godlogic, and still protestant) break down the meeting between Muhammed and who the quran calls the Angel Gabriel. But who Muhammed had these "devine" encounters with was actually an evil jinn and not the Angel Gabriel.....

Galatians 1:7, 8 says, "which is really not another; only there are some who are DISTURBING you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!" The word for "disturbing" in the Greek is "ταράσσω in LXX
to disturb, trouble, stir up: primarily in PHYSICAL sense"

Also John 8:44-47 says, "You are OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the FATHER OF LIES. But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me. Which one of you convicts Me of sin? If I speak truth, why do you not believe Me? He who is of God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not hear them, because you are NOT OF GOD.”

And we know Isaiah ch14 and Ezekiel ch28 are about Lucifer(translation) . The five "I wills" of what's in Satan's heart....Ezekiel 28:12-14 says, "“How you have fallen from heaven,
O star of the morning, son of the dawn!
You have been cut down to the earth,
You who have weakened the nations! “But you said in your heart,
‘I WILL ascend to heaven;
I WILL raise my throne above the stars of God,
And I WILL sit on the mount of assembly
In the recesses of the north. ‘I WILL ascend above the heights of the clouds;
I WILL MAKE MYSELF LIKE THE MOST HIGH.’" Satan wants to be God and WILL do whatever it takes to be worshipped as such

 

[DeanM]

Ever wonder why God gave Ismael a blessing when he and Haggar went away? Why God gave Esau land? Everything God does is for a reason which is hidden from us. Perhaps the line of Ismael or Esau will produce the antichrist? Its interesting to think about. Having a senior moment here but think Harod was a decendent of Esau so maybe that takes care of the reason for him founding a nation. Ishmael on the other hand. Fun things to think about. Im praying for a pretrib rapture so if the end comes soon I might see antichrist from a safe distance

 

[ConfirmByDoing]

Ever wonder why God gave Ismael a blessing when he and Haggar went away? Why God gave Esau land? Everything God does is for a reason which is hidden from us. Perhaps the line of Ismael or Esau will produce the antichrist? Its interesting to think about. Having a senior moment here but think Harod was a decendent of Esau so maybe that takes care of the reason for him founding a nation. Ishmael on the other hand. Fun things to think about. Im praying for a pretrib rapture so if the end comes soon I might see antichrist from a safe distance

I didn't know that about Harod, but makes since. Married into and tried identifying as Jewish but was never faithful to it. Very observant, and bloodlines are very telling throughout Scripture. Lot's descendants had a lot of conflict with God(through Isreal) because of his incestuous encounters with his daughters

 

[DeanM]

I didn't know that about Harod, but makes since. Married into and tried identifying as Jewish but was never faithful to it. Very observant, and bloodlines are very telling throughout Scripture. Lot's descendants had a lot of conflict with God(through Isreal) because of his incestuous encounters with his daughters

Moabites likely spelled wrong. Were decendents of Lot by his daughters. They tempted Israel with women and false Gods. Harod was an Edomite in the line of Esau.

 

[ConfirmByDoing]

Moebites likely spelled wrong. Were decendents of Lot by his daughters. They tempted Israel with women and false Gods.

It's when Balaam started talking back to the donkey that got me He didn't pause not once?? Come on now

 

[DeanM]

It's when Balaam started talking back to the donkey that got me He didn't pause not once?? Come on now

The donkey had better eyesite than Balaam also.

 

[ConfirmByDoing]

The donkey had better eyesite than Balaam also.

I know right!

 

[Leastofall]

Moabites likely spelled wrong. Were decendents of Lot by his daughters. They tempted Israel with women and false Gods. Harod was an Edomite in the line of Esau.

I believe Ruth was a moabite.

 

[Leastofall]

I was taught that 666 stood for man as God.
The only religion I could think of is the catholic religion and the pope. In which the pope acts as God on earth.
Embracing a all inclusive universal religion
It also goes back to the Greek way of thinking that the emperor was a deity.
It also identify with the house on 7 hills, blood of the saints, ect.
Also we know that the catholic church has persecuted and killed more christians in history than any other enemy.

 

[greenonions]

If you calculate it according to Gematria, the Hebrew number system, 's' is 60, 'l' is 30, and 'm' is '40', so there's only 130 there, and the 'n' only adds 50 for a total of 180.
I'm not saying that you aren't on to something there, somewhere, but that you'd have to keep looking for a more compelling argument for it.

Thanks for your feedback. I personally prefer finding 666 in the Bible than using Gematria, which may not be Biblical. As for whether the argument is compelling, it would be good to hear feedback on which part of the reasoning is the weakest.

1) 666 directly points to a man, and only indirectly at the beast
2) 666 points to Solomon (wisdom, understanding, 666)
3) Solomon and Islam both start with the consonants SLM
4) Islam is a plausible candidate for the beast

 

[greenonions]

Islam is a demonic system there is no doubt about it and they will be playing a major part in the last days when it comes to attacking and surrounding Israel.

When it comes to the man of sin, I doubt he will be a devout muslim, jew or christian because in all these faiths, proclaiming yourself to be God in any sort of way would violate monotheism. He may be a muslim on paper, remains to be seen.

Many Muslim, Jewish, and Christian kings in history have not faithfully followed the precepts of their religion. So it is plausible to me that the antichrist does not strictly follow his own religion.

 

[ConfirmByDoing]

I believe Ruth was a moabite.

And direct lineage to Jesus

 

[DavidLamb]

Revelation 13:16 (NKJV) Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.

The man seems to be Solomon because he received 666 talents of gold year by year (1 Kings 10:14; 2 Chronicles 9:13), and he has wisdom and understanding (1 Kings 4:29).

The Hebrew Old Testament was written with consonants only. So Solomon would be something like SLMN (not exactly, but you get the idea). Hebrew and related languages also have 3-consonant roots as the basis of words, so, let's consider the first three consonants: SLM. Notice how you spell Islam with only consonants: SLM.

What do you think?

Sounds rather far-fetched to say that a Hebrew King's name in English letters has three consonants out of four that are the same as the three consonants in the English name of a religion, Islam, and that that, plus the fact that Solomon received 666 talents of gold per year, is somehow evidence that godly King Solomon was the beast of Revelation. According to the biblical account, Solomon's riches, as well as his wisdom, came ultimately from God:

“Then God said to him: "Because you have asked this thing, and have not asked long life for yourself, nor have asked riches for yourself, nor have asked the life of your enemies, but have asked for yourself understanding to discern justice, "behold, I have done according to your words; see, I have given you a wise and understanding heart, so that there has not been anyone like you before you, nor shall any like you arise after you. "And I have also given you what you have not asked: both riches and honor, so that there shall not be anyone like you among the kings all your days.” (1Ki 3:11-13 NKJV)

 

[Clayman]

Six is obviously the number of man, and I don't think we are being told the number six hundred and sixty six but rather 6 and 6 and 6 as in a 3 man trinity.

The first beast comes out of the sea, and sea is typical of peoples or gentile nations in the Bible, this man (Antichrist) is also represented by other types of men in the Bible.

Like Nebuchadnezzar, he was a ruler of the earth put in place by God, remember how it was God that gave him a vision of a image of a man, that represents Nebs and the other coming kingdoms.

And Neb built himself a statue of the image which was also in his likeness that was 60 by 6 cubits. And made a decree that all must worship the image of himself.

This story isn't in the Bible solely to just give us an interesting history lesson, which it does, but more importantly like all Bible stories it's foretelling future events.

Another world ruler, the Antichrist, a man who starts off being upright and good moral character is going to end up in the position of world ruler

What I mean by being of good character is that Nebuchadnezzar was of good character, a good representative of man, good enough that he put Daniel under himself, and had moments where he gave glory to God. ((I realize he did bad as well but that's another angle for later)

This will be similar to the Antichrist, he will be a good respected man of the world, but also when he does come to power it will be with 10 nations as allies and a peace treaty, which kicks off the seven years and begins the tribulation period

The second beast rises out of the earth, which coincides with the opening of the pit, and the king of the demons will be released and will enter into the first beast aka the Antichrist and will again Co-rule the world, the Antichrist will be mortally wounded at this stage, and a great miracle will have been seen to take place, now the Antichrist will be seen as the prophet of God.

Remembering our old testament story's again Moses the prophet of Israel when he died and his eyes were still bright,(not long dead) Satan tried to enter the body, but he was not allowed by God. Satan was not to rule Israel but the nations only.

Anyway for those who can stomach it, Satan was also a man, when he was ruler of the world anyway, remember The prophet Isaiah was sent to the king of Babylon to give a message to Satan, yes it's the one and the same king/man/Satan.

Thirdly the Antichrist builds himself a statue of himself, probably about 60 cubits tall, whatever that is in today's measurements, and will demand the world give homage to him or face death.

Not only that but this image will come to life and speak and talk, this big talking man seems too incredulous for me to believe that it's even a possible reality but then, if thats what God says is going to happen then I just will accept it even if I don't comprehend it yet.

Rev 13:5 And he is permitted [also] to impart the breath of life into the beast’s image, so that the statue of the beast could actually talk and cause to be put to death those who would not bow down and worship the image of the beast.

Any way I'm purposely being brief on detail as this is such an intertwined topic, and just wanted to say enough to explain what I see the 6 6 6 is, which is simply three representatives of unbelieving mankind.

Three men also three beasts. The Antichrist who becomes accepted as a prophet of God/false prophet, Satan who is allowed to give power and life to the false prophet to do signs and also give life to the third beast the image that comes to life.

This explanation of 666 seems to line up with the other harder to understand explanations to me.

For example at the end of the tribulation, the false prophet and the beast are cast alive into the lake of fire, this the first beast the Antichrist, and the third beast the statue that comes to life, while the second beast(Satan) is put into the pit for a thousand years to be released again to gather the armies again against Israel again.

Hopefully this simple explanation makes sense and hey if you don't agree hopefully you enjoyed reading someone else's far-flung explanation of things.