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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Essentially you hold to the belief that one who believes will always obey. And those who don't act are those who do not believe. This is your story. Am I correct?
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    You are still surmising and cannot see it. Remember, faith comes from hearing. Not faith comes from surmising.
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Here is the verse: Acts 2:37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” Still not seeing it.:unsure: Is it implied? I don't think that much surmising is healthy for you.
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    A summary verse??? Luke is writing a historical narrative not a book report! You are in extreme left field and spiritually blind.
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Yes they did. Why would you think otherwise?
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    ??? What do you believe they were using to baptize with in verse 22?
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    No one the attempting to "negate" hearing. The verses are true and show miracles being used to foster/produce faith. Here is another one: John 10:38 but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.” The "works"...
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Folks who teach salvation by faith alone (no verses) for salvation often confuse simple obedience with works deserving of wages (Romans 4:4-5). These are two separate work's in connection with two different things.
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Belief is commanded. Agreed. Belief is obedience. Agreed. Matthew 7:24-27 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet...
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Foster? Produce? Are you simply talking out of both sides of your mouth? John 2:23-25 New International Version Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival, many people saw the signs he was performing and believed in his name. But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he...
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    If someone else can explain what you are saying I will try to respond.
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Your words are just to jumbled for me to respond. Is English not your 1st language?
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    It means this: John 3:22 "After this, Jesus and his disciples went out into the Judean countryside, where he spent some time with them, and baptized." The ministry of Jesus Christ included water baptism. Even more than John the Baptist ever did. Live with it.
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    Methodist Church here in USA.

    What makes you think it is not the normal "nonsense gibberish"?
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    Methodist Church here in USA.

    Which is one of the reasons no one speaks in tongues today.
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Your narrative is quite a stretch. No one writes this way and certainly Luke did not. Your convoluted reasoning is but a grasping at straws. With your train of thought nothing in the Bible is safe. You seem to be attempting to harmonize these verses with faith alone regeneration theology...
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    I have read and reread your 53 words and still cannot understand what you are attempting to say.
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    I know this rubs people the wrong way but claims of personal salvation is not a valid argument. Because you believe that you were saved without baptism is not evidence that it is not needed. Scripture is evidence.
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    everything is predestined?

    Chance, good and bad "happens". Ecclesiastes 9:11 New International Version I have seen something else under the sun: The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned; but time and chance...