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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Actually yes he did Repent ya (old english plural form of you) and let every one of you (singular) even the old english bibles get it right.. That the command to be baptized is sent to individuals. not everyone in the crowd
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Blah away I will pray for you. Hope you continue to work to meet Gods requirement. Good luck with that
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Lamar stop being foolish Having begun in the spirit. now being perfected in the flesh (works) Gal 3 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified? 2 This only I want to learn from you...
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    I admire you commitment to a self righteous salvation. Good luck with that. does this make you a modern day pharisee? (by the way, I proved my point. and you laughed.. that in my view, is prety stupid..
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    actually I think it is quite simple 1. When are we saved eternally, at what point, and at what happened. 2. When did these works take place. before or after this point
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    lol.. Thinking you will outsmart God is even worse. We are saved by grace, through faith period Not by works of righteousness whcih we have done (such as water baptism) but by his mercy, he saved us. I mean you want to try to save yourself. feel free.. But you will not be happy in the end.
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Here let me help you Notice your greek english there does no give the word info. A better one would be the one like I show here from Bible hub. Notice, I have highlighted the words and the form of the word (2p = 2nd person plural, 3 s = 3rd person singular) so this shows I am right.. repent is...
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Actually I just interpret the word correctly. and do not follow an english translation I doubt he has a "Greek translation" that supports such nonsense. Well even if I did. It would not change what it says, and of course. the bible does not contradict itself either. so I would question...
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Um no it does not. Its impossible. Repent is second person plural and resolves with gift of the spirit, which is also second person. be baptized is third person singular. which means it has nothing to do with the gift of the holy spirit (they do nto match case) I am not using a translation. I...
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Um nope. In the greek it does not say this. The Holy spirit refers to repentance only I am not the one dancing, I am keeping the gospel consistent with the gospel of repentance for remission of sin Your adding a work, hey good luck with that.. Read what Jesus said to those who cast out demons...
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Yes he did Yes, because they repented and were given the HS, and then followed Gods first command to be baptized.. You forget. John has a ton of words which do not mention baptism either.. Start with chapter one and go all the way to chapter 7 to begin with So, the question is..... why are you...
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    yes. But like jews. they add a work of man to the doctrine of grace. (in this case. it is water baptism as apposed to circumcision) paul said, if anyone teach another gospel....
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    no what is odd is that Nicodemus did not even know what Jesus was saying, for he said "how can these things be" and Jesus never mentions water baptism once.. Not even a hint. Yes. i forgot about this. but this has nothing to do with being born again or the first part.
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Yes repent. Jesus made it clear they would teach the gospel of repentance for remission of sin Peter emphasized that gospel.
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Ahh I thought you were talking about new birth. Sorry
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    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    there is no water baptism in John 3. why do people keep making this mistake?
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    Do we dissapoint God?

    I believe God may be disappointed in the fact he really wants to give us things, and because of our actions or tendencies he can not give us some things. But as far as him being disappointed in us. I would say no.. We will never meet his standard.. so he will never have such high expectations...
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    God's Elect: This Ends Any Debate

    I do not find classes either. But the poster used to classes as she saw it, and I added one. In context here. i think she may have met beliefs. not classes.
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    God's Elect: This Ends Any Debate

    Oh I agree. he will never take away our free will. Another person in another chatroom said to me we can not produce faith. i agree. we can not produce it. People earn our trust when they prove they are trustworthy. If God worked in us to the extent we trust him and receive his salvation. The...
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    God's Elect: This Ends Any Debate

    I did not say they were not classes I think, I said I did not agree with either of them the 2 classes class 1 - there is a class called 'the elect', who have no choice but to be saved because God has decided they will be saved no matter what Class 2: being those who are not elect but are...