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If you're going to read behind them, better get an English dictionary and a Greek translation. That's if you're as dumb as me. They can get into some mindboggling stuff.

These guys have no mercy! It's like plowing with a young mule, I go this way, they go that way.

And I would see this...........where?

I spent years reading behind them, especially the great theologians from Great Britain. It was fun then, but those days have past forever.

I don't even know what a new house means. I'm pretty much ignorant to technology, from the old school, you know.

I can't tonight, they have wore me out with this resurrection stuff, lol.

That is definitely true, what Gill says, but I feel he could have gone much deeper and he probably did when all is read.

Ok, no problem. Just explaining my end as best as I can, just the way any of us would do.

I agree with that! My point was that when He is taken, "she" is taken with Him by way of ownership by faith. That is if you want to use the "he/she" thing.

Why don't you show it to me and we can go over it!

I don't know about you, David, but I'm saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, period! The order of resurrections as to whether I get them right or not, or anything else has nothing to do with my faith in Christ and being justified by that fact. I'm afraid you may have entered into the...

That seems to be what makes you feel good, you should believe that and not get upset. None of this has anything to do with our salvation either way, so don't sweat it, David.

Satan open the bottomless pit in Rev. 9:2 for the locust and demons to torment men on earth. That has nothing to do with the 2 witnesses who are still alive. The beast that comes from the bottomless pit are not the demon locusts in Rev. 9:2

LOL, there are no saints left behind in pre-trib theory. I don't know where you get that from, but it's typical of the understanding I've seen on this forum!

They are all martyred for preaching the kingdom of God! I don't know what you're talking about. And that goes back to the question I have yet to answer for someone. I have to look it up in scripture.

Do me a favor and read the attachment on post #3890 I think it is. See if that is acceptable to you.

The Holy Spirit does not operate as some presidents, leaving their own behind. When He is taken out He takes His own with Him! That would be the true believing Church at that time.

I don't think so! He is concerned of this Church believing "that the day of Christ/Lord" has already come. That day is concerning wrath on this entire world, which includes the tribulation and the destroying of the anit-christ at the Second Coming. Then Paul begins speaking of the Rapture and...

We have no choice but to choose one that best fits the scripture as it is presented to us. While remembering that John told us the Holy Spirit is God, would it be reasonable to "assume" that when the Holy Spirit is taken out of the way for the wrath of the tribulation to begin, that the Holy...

And where does the Holy Spirit dwell?