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Is it enough to state that Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God" (Rom 10:17) ? I believe its enough to say " Paul says in Rom 10:17 that Faith .... " Or " the bible says in Rom 10.17 ,that Faith ...."

Yes this verse is when Jesus taught those Jewish diciples how to pray " Our Father ...." ect . So we have a verse which says how those Jewish diciples ought to pray and in what manner . What's your point?

Because literally the bible says what it means and means what it says . When someone says the bible teaches us in Ephesians, chapter..verse ...this is a loaded phrase . The bible is not like a cookery book or a car manual. I believe its misleading to say " this verse teaches the doctrine of...

I bought it on Amazon. Is this bad ?

Again the verses in question specifically does not say" convicting the world of sin by bringing to them the knowledge of Christ" It says 8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin ( 1 ) , and of righteousness,( 2 ) and of judgment( 3) : ( 1)9Of sin, because they believe not on...

Absolutely. There are other verses of course .

The bible says how to pray in verse and chapter such and such The bible says cleanliness is .....in verse .... The bible says manners .......in verse ..... The bible says Good morals ....in verse .... The bible says song ....... The bible says in verse .... about the heavens The bible says...

I probably wouldn't word it like that . I would go to the verses which say what the Holy Spirit does . How the scriptures are to be understood and such.Such as “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in...

I think the verses in question. It literally breaks down for us what it means . step by step . 7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8And when he is...

I read about creation and soteriology because the bible says these things .

Again the post is not " The bible doesn't have teaching in it " . You gave an example where we read Jesus teaching the diciples . So if anyone said the bible no where says that Jesus taught the disciples ,we can point them to the verses that SAY otherwise.

That's not the slant I'm putting on it . Did you just build that up so you could add that last bit for effect ? lol

Ok next time you hear " This verse ' teaches ' or " the Bible teaches such and such ,this usually will be at the cost of what it ' says ' .

Its a little easier to contest what the bible says .

I think your missing the point .

The bible says things . You can hoodwink a lot of folks by saying " the bible teaches the doctrine here " or " Matthew such and such verse is teaching ....." No the bible says in Matthew .....

How so ?,and don't hold back on how you feel lol

The Op wasn't " The bible never has someone teaching in it " .

//That was Jesus teaching therefore it is correct to say The Bible teaches because we have Jesus who is teaching.// At best we can say " Jesus taught the diciples such and such " When you say " the bible teaches " this is completely different .

Nice try ,but you failed. Thats still the bible SAYING what Jesus TAUGHT ..I don't think you understand the post . As usual .