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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Just so you know, the Day of the Lord in Revelation does not start until the 6th seal - which is future to us today. The 5th seal was opened long ago as it is for the martyrs of the church age.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    What you write will be declared as MYTH by billions of believers. It is all the word of God and the word of TRUTH.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Again, don't pull verses or parts of verses out of their context to attempt to prove some theory. The "every eye will see HIm is written IN CONTEXT for His coming after the tribulation of those days—His coming to Armageddon. You will not find that phrase ANYWHERE in His 1 Thes. 4 coming to the...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Don't be pulling verses or parts of verses out of context to prove a point. WHERE in the book did John see the great crowd too large to number? Was it in chapter 19? No, definitely not! It was in chapter 7 and that was before any part of the 70th week.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    If you notice, I called the theory of a SECRET rapture a MYTH. The real rapture will be pre-70th week and it will be NOISY! And the entire world will KNOW something happened, for all their children will be missing.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Have you seen an original, to know if that title was written by John or was added later?
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    No, neither you nor Evmur got it right. The 7 vials will be poured out, to be sure, while days of GT will be continuing, but God will use them to SHORTEN those days of GT. The days of GT Jesus spoke of will begin right after God's warning not to take the mark, as we read in Rev. 14, and will...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Please show us scripture and verses where Jesus said "it is only false prophets and teachers who will teach a (secret) pre-tribulation advent and rapture..." I think you have written MYTH.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show unto his servants, even the things which must shortly come to pass: and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John;
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    He will certainly keep SOME of them safe. Some of them must survive.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    It is true that many Christians try and use scriptures pointed to the Jews and attempt to make them apply to the church - so end up in error in their thinking.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    I think the "Him" in question is our Lord Jesus Christ. Perhaps it is nonsensical but it is what is written.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Sorry, but the gathering for them, written in Matthew 24, will be after God's wrath is poured out. Did you not read in Daniel 12 that the very purpose of the 70th week is to completely shatter the power of the Jews? Today they trust in their IDF: Israeli Defense Forces. God will cause their IDF...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    This is a true statement, but don't ever confuse this gathering with Paul's gathering: they are two different gatherings for two different people groups and will be separated by over 7 years.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    True. But keep in mind, they were seen and written in Rev. chapter 7. I too believe that great crowd too large to number in the just raptured church. John saw them very shortly after they arrived in heaven. However, what is described is NOT how they arrived suddenly in heaven, what is described...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    The pretrib rapture will not be "secret." it will be very loud. And all the world will know that SOMETHING happened: all the children will be gone.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    This is not really truth either: the church may not be mentioned by name, but the first seal on the book is to represent the church sent out with the gospel. That first seal was opened as soon as Jesus ascended and got the book, so around 32 AD.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    I agree in part, but the rapture is certainly NOT in Rev. 4:1. That has been a HUGE hole in classical pretrib thinking. If we let a hundred 5th graders read that passage with no preconceptions, I believe all 100 would say that was JOHN being caught up to heaven to be shown things in his future.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Since the beginning chapter was while John was alive, and chapter 21 is far into our future, somewhere between these two chapters is where the church is TODAY. Many don't believe the truth, but the church has been at the 5th seal waiting for the final church age martyr and waiting for the Day...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Well that's something since the Scripture is all i am adhering to without 'adding to and taking away' from God's words. It seems you are making a joke. Every time you paste a scripture, you add what you believe that scripture is saying. And what you believe does not align with all the end times...