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I agree. Let me try another wording. My question is why can't our good works save us?

Then may I suggest you misunderstand the gospel. When did Jesus send out the 12 to proclaim the gospel?

I do appreciate your time and patience. From my vantage point, you are the one struggling with the truth. I don't expect we will change each others minds but hopefully this will challenge what we understand as truth.

Why is it not of works yet we are expected to work?

Was the thief on the cross saved by the gospel? For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

I do my best to not make stuff up but I will admit I am not perfect. The scripture you are using to prove baptism is by God alone is not telling us everyone would be baptized with the HS. John is speaking of the promise of the HS which happened on Pentecost. Baptized with the HS only happened...

You didn't tell me your understanding of Jesus's instructions to the apostles.

I suggest doing a word search and you will see only 2 times people were baptized with the HS. Both times were a special situation.

Respectfully, I don't see how I'm adding anything. It's been there from the beginning. I agree only God can place you into Christ. If we start at the beginning, we see what the apostles were taught on how to convert the sinner. We see what they did to convert the sinner. What we see is...

The giving of the HS can only be given by an apostle. Please consider Acts 8. Philip had baptized people in the name of Jesus but the HS hadn't fallen on any of them. The apostles came and laid hands on them and they received the HS. 18 Now when Simon saw that the Spirit was given through...

For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. If refers to something they did or did not do. If they have been united in a death like His, then they will be united in a resurrection like His. If they have not, then...

That verse doesn't specify when he received the HS. We do see the order in verse 17 of receive sight then HS. In 18 we see he received sight then arose and was baptized. The HS is given after baptism. That's the order we see here. And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of...

My point is Paul says IF we we have been united with Him in a death like His. If is conditional. Buried in baptism is how we die with Christ. It is also how our sins are washed away. And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name.’

Water baptism is HOW we die with Christ. 3 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too...

I agree but we still must do physically or we truly do not love. 28 “What do you think? A man had two sons. And he went to the first and said, ‘Son, go and work in the vineyard today.’ 29 And he answered, ‘I will not,’ but afterward he changed his mind and went. 30 And he went to the other...

If I understand you correctly, I agree for the most part except the part about water baptism. Things we do in this physical world have direct consequences spiritually. For example, can we love spiritually only and not physically?

How does one call upon the name of the Lord? If you could point to how in one of the conversions God has recorded for us that would be great. and Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the...

Didn't Jesus perform a physical act of dying to cleanse us spiritually?

Oh ok. You are right. Sins are a spiritual problem. My point was if water baptism has the power to cure leprosy why can't water baptism wash away sins? Acts 22:16 And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name.’

How so?