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  1. williamjordan

    The Trinity

    What color are your shoes?
  2. williamjordan

    The Trinity

    It's not a question, per se. Rather, it's a response to your question, ended with a rhetorical question. Maybe AI was the right suggestion, and now you are overmalfunctioning: "Does not compute."
  3. williamjordan

    The Trinity

    I didn't intend to target you (per se), but simply pointing out that Jn. 14:28 is probably the most often cited (and missapplied) text against Trinitarianism. And in most instances, it is cited without recognition of all the other little nuances. When I cited Jer. 32, I was drawing on the fact...
  4. williamjordan

    The Trinity

    Folks who bring up Jn. 14:28 do not even realize the pickle they get themselves into, and forget the perspective they are supposed to be interacting with. Jn. 14 is apart of a discourse that begins back in Jn. 13. And beginning in Jn. 13 (through Jn. 17), Jesus draws on themes which allude...
  5. williamjordan

    The Trinity

    There is thing in Biblical interpretation called understanding the passage in light of the OT backdrop. In the OT backdrop it is God speaking to Israel's king, Unless you are going to suggest that God the Father was "anointed" with "festive oil," then there is no way to suggest that Heb...
  6. williamjordan

    The Trinity

    No, because that was not what my grounds were based on, was it? The grounds given for saying there is no "either or," has nothing to do with italicized words.
  7. williamjordan

    The Trinity

    How does that properly address what was stated in Post #348?
  8. williamjordan

    The Trinity

    There is no "either or." It is God speaking of the Son throughout the entire discourse. Why would the Son be citing Ps. 45 of God the Father, when in the Psalm itself it is God speaking to Israel's king? The discourse pulls from two different themes: Kingship and Lordship. Heb. 1:5a contains...
  9. williamjordan

    The Trinity

    Need I remind you of what you said, The point I'm driving at, there really is no "option" at all. The only way you get to this "option" is by reading "the Father" into the text. How in the world do you get the idea that there is an "either or" option?
  10. williamjordan

    The Trinity

    Why is there "no other option"?
  11. williamjordan

    The Trinity

    "How??" Perhaps it would be better to explain (from your angle), "How." The question that needs to be answered is, "How could there not be another option?" You're the one suggesting, "There is no other option." Why, and how do you reach that conclusion if you aren't reading into the term...
  12. williamjordan

    The Trinity

    Oh really? That seems to be exactly what you are saying when you say (as you did in Post #321), "Either God or the Son. There is no other option." How else could you reason, "There is no other option," when quite clearly there is ("another option")?
  13. williamjordan

    The Trinity

    You are imposing onto the word, "God" what Trinitarians do not. You are taking "God" as a "name" solely used of the Father. But "God" is not actually a name, nor is there necessarily a one-to-one equivocation with "the Father." While it is true, "God" can be used in reference to the Father...
  14. williamjordan

    Christ is God

    1 Peter 2:3 (cf. Ps. 34:8) 1 Peter 2:8 (cf. Isaiah 8:14 LXX) 1 Peter 3:14-15 (cf. Isaiah 8:12-13 LXX)
  15. williamjordan

    Christ is God

    You are simply just parsing words in the order they appear in Greek, but that's not exactly how you would communicate it in English. Word order in Greek can reflect entirely different things in English, and vice-versa. In 1:1c, "God" is a preverbal predicate nominative. That means it is not...
  16. williamjordan

    The Trinity.

    Amateur*
  17. williamjordan

    The Trinity.

    When I used the word “pragmatic,” it may not have come off clearly. So let me rephrase what I’m trying to communicate a little: Test the claim of “logical incoherency” against the paradigm and backdrop you are criticizing, instead of casting it against a falsely constructed paradigm and...
  18. williamjordan

    The Trinity.

    Instead of “trying” to raise an objection (a rather weak one, at that), why not take a pragmatic approach and try to come at this from a Trinitarian angle? The thing you say “defies logic,” really does no such thing at all. You have two issues that intersect one another at a very critical...
  19. williamjordan

    The Trinity according to the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD

    I have plenty of time; you just let me know where you want to begin. I am out of town today, but have lots of free time. And if you would rather talk about it (rather than type about it), we can arrange that, certainly. And if Ted wants in on it, then by all means. A lot of the materials...
  20. williamjordan

    The Trinity according to the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD

    Allow me to preface this by saying, I am not Arian. But I have done my due diligence in studying Arian (not necessarily Jehovah's Witness) materials. There's actually two different "constructs," or "models" (if I may use the term fluidly) which are attested in Arian circles. In order to know...