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  1. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    This exposes TDS for both sides PERFECTLY: Republican TDS: For actually believing Trump when he claims he cured cancer. Democrat TDS: Believing Trump cured cancer and somehow injecting racism into it.
  2. Smoke

    Harris and Waltz a preview

    I was disappointed in Trump picking Vance for VP. I was hoping Vivek would have been chosen but knew it was unlikely. They would be too similar in their reach of undecided voters, so I get it. Having said that, I think picking Waltz was an even worse pick for VP. We'll see how this plays out...
  3. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    I think I know what he meant. The problem is that what he meant is not what he said. I think when he was asked what a "Black job" is, he was checkmated and couldn't actually say what he truly believe is a "Black job". To another point, if illegal immigrants are stealing American jobs (including...
  4. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    An analogy is "a comparison of two unlike things"... this is a one-for-one comparison. It doesn't meet the requirement. Facts/Given: 1.) Trump's verbatim definition of "Black job": Anybody with a job. 2.) POTUS is a job. Using the laws of logic, if #1 and #2 are true, we can determine that the...
  5. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    I didn't make an analogy. I applied Trump's definition. Are you saying Trump's definition is "nonsense"? If so, I agree with you.
  6. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    I'm in a moral dilemma of voting for a 3rd party candidate or the lesser of two evils. During the primary, I was an advocate of DeSantis. The right doesn't want him right now. We probably disagree on this point, but I think Trump is the lesser evil. He is not my golden ox as many...
  7. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    You aren't going to answer a single question I asked? Surely, we can have a good faith discussion. Everything you just said, while I agree with you, has absolutely nothing with the points or questions I made. Please respond in good faith. I know you're capable of it.
  8. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    It's actually a terrible point. What one person does in another party that most Christians don't align with has nothing to do with what another person does in another party. Using your logic, I should be able to get away with murdering whoever I want and if I get any pushback, I can just site...
  9. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    Everyone agrees that there are some immigrants, albeit in smaller quantities statistically than American-born, who do in fact murder, rape, etc... Assuming they came here legally, they are STILL less likely to commit murder than American-born though. This means that while they SHOULD NOT enter...
  10. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    Agreed on your point of a socialist governance being counterproductive. I just wonder why we almost never hear about targeting employers who hire illegal immigrants. I'm sure we might arrest a few here and there, but if you get rid of the incentive to come here illegally, you drastically reduce...
  11. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    Have you ever seen American History X? Your post reminded of a scene (in the past where it is filmed in black and white) where he is talking to a group of disenfranchised White kids before going into a grocery store (owned by immigrants) and stealing/vandalizing it. In his speech, he uses...
  12. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    My thoughts on illegal immigration: BOTH parties pretend they want legal immigration but secretly enable illegal immigration. I would only argue it's slightly more self-evident that Democrats are cool with illegal immigration. If Republicans are wanting to crack down on this, why not TARGET the...
  13. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    I never made the claim Trump is racist for talking about "Black jobs" or saying "Black". Do you mind telling me on what a "Black job" is though?
  14. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    I just wanted to add, just because someone can be ignorant, doesn't mean they are necessarily a racist. I have misspoken and said some stupid things in my time. I'm not convinced Trump is a racist or I wouldn't even consider voting for him. However, I'm not running for president. I just wished...
  15. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    No sir, I'm asking you to post a video, or timestamp the one in the OP and show me where Trump says "A Black job is any Black person with a job." You keep making this about people being offended by the term "Black jobs", when really, it's about the definition he gave... not the one you wish he...
  16. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    He didn't say that though. Go back to the original post, I quoted verbatim. "A Black job is anybody that has a job." I don't mean to be bombastic, but words matter. "Anybody" is all inclusive, meaning it's not explicitly referring to "Black people". Also, the position of POTUS is a job. By...
  17. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    Really? So jobs now identify as being Black? If a transgender does a job, is that job now a "transgender job" using your logic? In your other post you said "Personally I agree with Morgan Freeman, stop talking about race and that starts with associations like BLM and NABJ." But you're actually...
  18. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    Can you refer to the video, or any other video if you prefer, and call out the timestamp he says "Any job that a Black person does" please? He clearly doesn't say that in this video. Perhaps this was AI generated? Let's pretend Trump said a "Black job" is "any Black person with a job". Does he...
  19. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    No one was offended by the term "Black jobs", but criticizing his definition of what one is. I think you're pretending not to understand this. Trump stated a "Black job" is anyone who has a job. So, is the position of the president of the US considered a "Black job" by his definition? Sounds...
  20. Smoke

    Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

    You are correct sister. But when you can't justify such an insane definition, it's easier for his disciples to change the argument up and object about something no one was objecting to in the first place.