Gods Ten Commandments
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Hello @WildernessVoice, I'm not sure if this is exactly what you are looking for, but I believe that the Decalogue is omnitemporal.
I also believe that the Decalogue can be a great help to us in understanding the true character of our heavenly Father (IOW, who He really is/what He is really like), and for believers then, it helps us understand what He expects from us/how we can be pleasing in His sight, etc.
There is much more to discuss, but I think that I'll stop with this much for now (in case this isn't what you are after).
God bless you!!
~Deuteronomy
I also believe that the Decalogue can be a great help to us in understanding the true character of our heavenly Father (IOW, who He really is/what He is really like), and for believers then, it helps us understand what He expects from us/how we can be pleasing in His sight, etc.
There is much more to discuss, but I think that I'll stop with this much for now (in case this isn't what you are after).
God bless you!!
~Deuteronomy
Hello again @WildernessVoice, I should have also mentioned that I do not believe that keeping the 10 Commandments (or even doing our best to try to keep them) is how we are saved, nor do I believe that keeping them is a necessary part of maintaining our salvation (after all, we are saved by grace through faith, apart from any of the righteous works that we do because we are saved, and that from first to last .. e.g. Ephesians 2:8-10; Titus 3:5).
That said, I believe that all true Christians will choose to keep the Decalogue (and seek God's forgiveness whenever we fail to do so), not because it's required of us, but because it's who we are and what we want now, as new creatures (with a new nature) in Christ .. e.g. Ephesians 2:10; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Ephesians 4:22-24).
~Deuteronomy
That said, I believe that all true Christians will choose to keep the Decalogue (and seek God's forgiveness whenever we fail to do so), not because it's required of us, but because it's who we are and what we want now, as new creatures (with a new nature) in Christ .. e.g. Ephesians 2:10; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Ephesians 4:22-24).
~Deuteronomy
The two greatest commandments are above the ten commandments.
Jesus fulfilled the two greatest commandments in the law.
Jesus then invoked a new covenant based on His blood and we also were given the two new commandments.
Luke 22:20
And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying,
“This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood."
The two shiny new commandments are version 2 of the former two greatest commandments.
1 John 3:23-24
This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another,
just as He commanded us. The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him.
We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.
As for the former ten commandments if you just treat others as you would have them treat you.
You have fulfilled the law and the prophets.
Matthew 7:12
In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you,
for this is the Law and the Prophets.
J
James456
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The words ''Ten Commandments'' should be redundant for those under the new covenant.
All believers should instinctively know in their minds God does not want them to steal, commit adultery, lie, take God's name in vain, murder, covet(alongside much else), and all believers, should in their hearts(the flesh is another matter) not want to do those things. They should also know their sins and lawless deeds will be remembered no more. (Heb10:15-18)
It's not an external law anymore, that was the old covenant, not the new. The words ''ten commandments'' speak of an external law.
All believers should instinctively know in their minds God does not want them to steal, commit adultery, lie, take God's name in vain, murder, covet(alongside much else), and all believers, should in their hearts(the flesh is another matter) not want to do those things. They should also know their sins and lawless deeds will be remembered no more. (Heb10:15-18)
It's not an external law anymore, that was the old covenant, not the new. The words ''ten commandments'' speak of an external law.
J
James456
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When I first joined internet debating websites, many years ago, there were threads on the ten commandments. I couldn't remember what they all were, so, for the purpose of debate I thought it wise to brush up on them. So I turned to Exodus 20. It struck me, that nine of them I instinctively knew in my mind, and in my heart I wanted to see what was written in them reflected in my life. (2Cor3:3)
omnitemporal. exactly!! existing for ever, no beginning, no end.
For God to have no beginning, always existing -- so must His WAY revealed by His Commandments
Where is it written Christians are only to obey two Commandments?
Are you pointing to the Two Great Precepts?
the First "Love God", and we are shown how that is to be accomplished by the first four commandments
and love neighbor, which the last six explain how that is accomplished.
I follow the commandments as Jesus gave them in Scripture, not the Church’s “precepts.”
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the two precepts are of Christ as are the ten, it was His finger that wrote them.
my posotion is the same as Jesus ans always will be;
Matthew 19:16–22 (KJV):
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
i am certain of what i say that it is also a test, the lord wants to see who follows what is said or not, here is an example;
Exo 16:25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it [manna] in the field.
Exo 16:26 Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
Exo 16:27 And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.
Exo 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
Exo 16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
of course the sabbath is much more than a simple test of obedience.
Exo 16:25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it [manna] in the field.
Exo 16:26 Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
Exo 16:27 And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.
Exo 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
Exo 16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
of course the sabbath is much more than a simple test of obedience.