I'm trying to be realistic, not idealistic. Marriage is messy as both a historical fact and biblical fact.
Is marriage really a "foretaste of heaven"?
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You've probably heard the Anna Karenina principle, "all happy families are alike, each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way." Per biblical standard, only couples who are "equally yoked" in the Holy Spirit are happy, an unequally yoked marriage is like a carriage pulled by two horses in two different directions. My question is simply this, that when such an ideal is impossible to achieve in your reality, how would you respond? A biblical answer is to prioritize your relationship with Jesus over your relationship with any partner.You missed one. Marriage to a contentious woman, which is its own special kind of hell.
Sometimes when I am talking to certain women, out of nowhere I am seized with a feeling of relief that I am still single. They just seem to thrive so much on drumming up arguments out of nothing, apparently just for the joy of arguing.
Sorry... Don't know what in the world it was about this thread that made me think of that...
Yes, as you can see, "marriage of the Lamb" is a symbolic union between Christ and his church, it's a match in HEAVEN, not on earth, and that's what the Sadduccees couldn't comprehend.
AHA! It took a lot of words to get to it, but now it is finally possible to see where you are going with this.
"It's better to be single than to be unhappily married."
Well, domestic strife is a part of the curse in Gen. 3:16, "your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you." (Traditional) marriage has become rarer these days, and that's actually a good thing, because it shows people no longer marry just for the sake of marriage, they are no longer pressured or "sliding" into marriage. Only those who know what they're doing, what they're getting into, who are prepared, committed and equally yoked would actually tie the knot.
That part about being married was a curse? Interesting take on that. Very warped, very disturbed and incredibly disturbing, but also interesting in a morbid way.
I heard a comedian talking about how the part about being fruitful and multiplying was also a curse. "Those of you who have children, you understand this. God was not happy when he said it. God was ANGRY at them when he told them to be fruitful and multiply. That was a curse!"
Jesus Christ is returning TO EARTH for the second time as KING of Kings to rule from the existing 2500 year old Throne of David.
Mankind has brought earth to the point of total destruction by rejecting God's Torah, Christ is coming to earth to show mankind how and why God's WAY works,
Christ will restore the entire earth as the Garden of Eden ---- as spoken by all His prophets.
I have never found one scripture stating, when we get to heaven, all the Saints will be in Heaven with the Father, the reward of the saints is living in heaven or any such
the Gift is eternal life not heaven.
On the day Christ returns to earth HIS feet will land on the Mount of Olives and His wife will be with HIM.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which [is] before Jerusalem on the east,
and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, [and there shall be] a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee [to] the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come,
[and] all the saints with thee.
This was true in my disastrous first marriage, a long time ago, back in the day. Many other undesirable character traits as well.You missed one. Marriage to a contentious woman, which is its own special kind of hell.
Disaster. A self-inflicted wound on my part.
I read somewhere that what doesn't kill you can make you stronger. Based on my own personal experiences and observations I believe that there is an element of truth to that claim.
I have thought about this before. It does make sense that marriage is a foretaste of heaven. Isn't earth types and shadows of Heaven? Marriage on earth is a dry run for marriage in Heaven? Should I practice making lots of sandwiches? Uh-Oh I've had more sandwiches made for me than I have made myself, lol.
So...we should be treating our spouses the way that we want to be treated as a Bride. Can a man be a proverbs 31 wife?! Will I look good in a dress? (wedding dress, right?) Lol
Hahar doesn't count. She was an indentured servant.
And trying to make God's promise happen by using her started a problem that we are still dealing with today. So yeah, no, definitely not part of God's plan.
Death in childbirth and infant mortality were very common before modern age, Rachel passed away shortly after the birth of Benjamin, that's literal fulfillment of "greatly increasing your pain in labor", that's historical and biblical facts. Curse or not, it depends on your perspective.
If you truly believe that, then you should also acknowledge Christ's teaching that there won't be earthly sense of marriage in resurrection, because eternal life eliminates the need for reproduction, and all will be spiritually united with Lord Jesus.
As you can see, this is all just sales pitch. The real dry run is your relationship with Christ through a church community, that's where you find your belonging.
Jesus Christ stated, the Saints raised to Spirit as He is Spirit, do not marry. they are like angels which do not reproduce.
Angels were made without the ability to reproduce (they all are masculine in nature, are not male and female, no gender), which also means they can not reproduce with humans.
Is it not written we are to be" Sons of God the Father" It is the Father that is reproducing. Why are we to call Him our Father?
The marriage between Christ and His Bride is not physical, Christ is not physical and neither will those resurrected be flesh and blood.
Marriage is a relationship between two, a close relationship, a bond. the Bride of Christ will be His special helpmate to assist in ruling creation for eternity. NO sex involved!!
there are many scriptures showing there will be a marriage. and as Christ states; it will be with the FEW. Many are called, few are chosen to be the bride.
There is no biological reproduction in Heaven, but that doesnt mean it isnt physical. We should have like what Jesus had in His resurrection body. He told them, I am no ghost touch me and see. So He was solid flesh and bone. And He could walk through walls and stuff too. God is He who creates in Heaven.
What do you think of the idea that instead of walking through walls, Jesus merely entered the spiritual realm?
so flesh and bone can disappear right in front of your eyes and can walk through stone walls, which Christ did both ???
Christ can appear in what ever fashion He wants, so Christ, who was Spirit before He came to earth as a flesh and blood human, when back to heaven as flesh and bone???
35But some [man] will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
36[Thou] fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
37And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other [grain]: 38But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
39All flesh [is] not the same flesh: but [there is] one [kind of] flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, [and] another of birds.
42So also [is] the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
we will have the same spirit body as Jesus Christ and we also can be invisible to the human eye and travel at the speed of thought.
He had to appear to the 11 as they knew Him with the nail holes and the wound in His side. Christ can appear in what ever form He wants.
Uh maybe, I dont really know. I've never had the pleasure of visiting the spiritual realm, well, that I can remember.
Jesus got 5000 Jews mad at Him and they wanted to throw Him off the cliff! So scripture implies that He blinked out but only to the extent that no one could see Him. And He walked right through them. And that was before He had His resurrection body!
I played a video game like that once. Two different realities, and you had to phase shift from one to the other to get around obstacles. Also to solve puzzles, which became rather annoying.