Should the church preach the gospel?

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John146 said:
Didn't Jesus tell his disciples not to go to the Gentiles nor the Samaritans? Why? Did that go against what was given to Paul being the apostle to the Gentiles?
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you deflect and did not answer a simple question! Did you forget the great commission Jesus gave to his disciples disciples? Let me refresh your memory;

Here are all the main Bible passages commonly called “the Great Commission.”
Matthew 28:18–20 (ASV)
“And Jesus came to them and spake unto them, saying, All authority hath been given unto me in heaven and on earth.
Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit:
teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.”
Mark 16:15–18 (ASV)
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to the whole creation.
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that disbelieveth shall be condemned.
And these signs shall accompany them that believe: in my name shall they cast out demons; they shall speak with new tongues;
they shall take up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall in no wise hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.”
Luke 24:46–49 (ASV)
“And he said unto them, Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer, and rise again from the dead the third day;
and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name unto all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
Ye are witnesses of these things.
And behold, I send forth the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city, until ye be clothed with power from on high.”see acts 1:8 below
John 20:21–23 (ASV)
“Jesus therefore said to them again, Peace be unto you: as the Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Spirit:
whose soever sins ye forgive, they are forgiven unto them; whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.”
Acts 1:8 (ASV)
“But ye shall receive power, when the Holy Spirit is come upon you: and ye shall be my witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea and Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.”
These five passages together form the full Great Commission:
Jesus sends His disciples to go, teach, preach repentance, make disciples, and be His witnesses, starting locally and reaching the whole world.

Now the question remains unanswered;

you wrote: John146 said:What the Lord revealed to Paul was never taught before. Even Jesus did not teach what Paul taught.
and I ask again: like what?
 
Dino246 said:
And how many times have you done exactly this same thing?

Hypocrisy doesn’t look good on you either.
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you are always impolite and I did refuse to answer you once because of it and I had warned you beforehand, its all on you.
 
vassal said:
you are always impolite and I did refuse to answer you once because of it and I had warned you beforehand, its all on you.
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So… given that disagreement with a question is illogical, you must be disagreeing with my statement, which means you think hypocrisy does look good on you.
 
John146 said:
What the Lord revealed to Paul was never taught before. Even Jesus did not teach what Paul taught.
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I would say Jesus hinted at what Paul would later preach:
When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 about sin, because people do not believe in me; 10 about righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; 11 and about judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.

12 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth.

John16:8-12
 
vassal said:
you deflect and did not answer a simple question! Did you forget the great commission Jesus gave to his disciples disciples? Let me refresh your memory;

Here are all the main Bible passages commonly called “the Great Commission.”
Matthew 28:18–20 (ASV)
“And Jesus came to them and spake unto them, saying, All authority hath been given unto me in heaven and on earth.
Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit:
teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.”
Mark 16:15–18 (ASV)
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to the whole creation.
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that disbelieveth shall be condemned.
And these signs shall accompany them that believe: in my name shall they cast out demons; they shall speak with new tongues;
they shall take up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall in no wise hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.”
Luke 24:46–49 (ASV)
“And he said unto them, Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer, and rise again from the dead the third day;
and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name unto all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
Ye are witnesses of these things.
And behold, I send forth the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city, until ye be clothed with power from on high.”see acts 1:8 below
John 20:21–23 (ASV)
“Jesus therefore said to them again, Peace be unto you: as the Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Spirit:
whose soever sins ye forgive, they are forgiven unto them; whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.”
Acts 1:8 (ASV)
“But ye shall receive power, when the Holy Spirit is come upon you: and ye shall be my witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea and Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.”
These five passages together form the full Great Commission:
Jesus sends His disciples to go, teach, preach repentance, make disciples, and be His witnesses, starting locally and reaching the whole world.

Now the question remains unanswered;

you wrote: John146 said:What the Lord revealed to Paul was never taught before. Even Jesus did not teach what Paul taught.
and I ask again: like what?
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My post showed how the Lord gave Paul additional revelation that had never been taught before. It's not a contradiction, just more revelation to a particular group of people. It's called progressive revelation.
 
John146 said:
My post showed how the Lord gave Paul additional revelation that had never been taught before. It's not a contradiction, just more revelation to a particular group of people. It's called progressive revelation.
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I understand you do not know, it's fine, ill figure it out.
 
vassal said:
like what?
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He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

7 Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious? 9 If the ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness! 2Cor3:6-9



So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5 For when we were in the realm of the flesh,[a] the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.


7 What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.”[b] 8 But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. For apart from the law, sin was dead. 9 Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died. 10 I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death. 11 For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death. 12 So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good.

13 Did that which is good, then, become death to me? By no means! Nevertheless, in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it used what is good to bring about my death, so that through the commandment sin might become utterly sinful. Rom7:4-13

The power of sin is the law 1Cor15:56
 
Undergrace1 said:
He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

7 Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious? 9 If the ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness! 2Cor3:6-9



So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5 For when we were in the realm of the flesh,[a] the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.


7 What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.”[b] 8 But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. For apart from the law, sin was dead. 9 Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died. 10 I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death. 11 For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death. 12 So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good.

13 Did that which is good, then, become death to me? By no means! Nevertheless, in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it used what is good to bring about my death, so that through the commandment sin might become utterly sinful. Rom7:4-13

The power of sin is the law 1Cor15:56
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instead of following Paul that evidently you do not understand, why don't you follow Jesus instead. all He said is simple and clear, Paul is not for you as your current understanding contradicts the rest of the bible. Do not ask me to explain Paul to you I wont. too many interpretations possible like the one you just wrote here and no one will ever agree, such confusion!

It is Jesus words that should be preached in full priority, I would even say exclusively for most people. Men' salvation depends on his teachings and His alone!!!
 
vassal said:
instead of following Paul that evidently you do not understand, why don't you follow Jesus instead. all He said is simple and clear, Paul is not for you as your current understanding contradicts the rest of the bible. Do not ask me to explain Paul to you I wont. too many interpretations possible like the one you just wrote here and no one will ever agree, such confusion!

It is Jesus words that should be preached in full priority, I would even say exclusively for most people. Men' salvation depends on his teachings and His alone!!!
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As I have told you, Jesus said what he taught could be understood without the indwelling Holy Spirit, what Paul wrote could not be understood without the guidance of the Holy Spirit helping us to understand, hence your words.
 
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