How christian is Mr Trump and his friends ?

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:D I like spicy discussions because spice brings good flavor into food but if you take all the spice away the core message is this:

Trump has a mandate because he was elected by the people on an America first promise which he’s keeping.

He won because the left has lost touch with the middle class.

They will always hate him because he’s a straight shooter since he’s been dealing with baureocrats in New York since 1980 (watch a few documentaries about him) and he knows their ways.

He’s got 3 more years in the office so let’s see if the left can do better on the next election.

A lot of what Trump is doing is essentially reversing Obama doctrines.

That’s all I can think of in terms of core messages without adding any spice to it.
I’m sure there’s a few more I’m missing but that’s all I can think of for now.
I think it goes further than Obama doctrines but also SOME Clinton era doctrines. (Not all were horrible, many were but not all)
 
I’m sometimes thinking about how different things would have been if John McCain had won the 2008 election. No Obama, no Trump.
He would have bailed out the banks like Obama; and then then human civilization would have ended in 2014.
 
OK I see your point.
But there is a way of fixing the bad roads in Texas; and that is to let the rich and lucky ones to pay more taxes, so the taxes can fix the roads of your state.

Agree or not agree ?
For your information------
The rich have a life style that takes X dollars to support.
If the government takes more dollars from them, that does not mean they will accept less and change that lifestyle.
NO-- they will raise their salary, paid for by raising the price of goods to pay the extra tax.
SO-- the consumer and working class will continue to pay the taxes one way or the other.
To believe the rich will accept less income is foolishness.
 
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And what are these "experts" going to do? Issue a stern warning? :ROFL:


 
I do not believe Donald Trump is a Christian.

His behavior is not Christlike.

And he loves money.

Which he violates love and faith the 2 main ingredients to be right with God.

I believe he is following the new age christianity.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

The new age movement that interprets the Bible and religions according to the occult and evolution, and people are going to evolve to be spiritual, and greater, and Jesus became an ascended master among others, and there is no personal God, but they honor the God of forces the power of the Cosmos, and the New Age Christ is the next world teacher.

The time will come that people will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but want to hear it according to the new age.

Their perspective of reality has changed and they want to establish that on a world wide scale.

Which the new age is a Caucasian led plan.

This is what I believe.

The top leaders of the Republicans and Democrats are actually working together which is the Hegel System which they set up 2 opposing forces and then they harmonize them together with a balance between them which they believe is a better system than either system alone and it brings the people together

Which on the back of the dollar bill, Announcing the conception of a new order of the ages, and out of many, one.

America and Russia were working together the whole time as the 2 opposing forces of the Hegel System.

Which the one world government will be a balance between democracy and communism, and the unified religious system a balance between atheism and spirituality, the new age christianity which they believe they are going to evolve to be spiritual, and greater.

WW1, League of Nations, WW2, United Nations, a set up to get the nations governments to work for peace on earth.

Controlled conflict brings about controlled change.

Donald Trump was set up to increase the fighting between the political parties.

He told the United Nations the nations need to step it up and work for peace like America does.

He is being bold in the eyes of the world with Venezuela, Greenland, and whatever else, because it is time to drive the world together.

He wants to make America out to be bad in the eyes of the world so it will drive them together.

Like the government wants the people to view it as bad, corrupt, not good leaders, cannot handle finances.

So along with the political fighting it will be easier to go to a new form of government.

People say with Greenland it could escalate in to a war between Europe and America.

But it is a scare tactic for I do not believe they want a war at this time.

Europe and America are actually working together along with Russia.

And WW1 and WW2 involved Europe for it is their plan along with America.

And they are willing to sacrifice their people to achieve their goal.

America is looking at the world and that is scary.

For then they will not care about their own people.

Which they are probably going to collapse America for it will be the birth of the New World Order.

Greenland situation they say could be the end of NATO.

Which is probably what they want along with America no longer working for peace on earth fighting terrorism.

The world will have no choice but to come together to work for peace.

America, Europe, Russia, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, are waiting for the New Age Christ to negotiate peace in the Middle East.

He will then push the agenda of the new age.

World divided in to 10 sections.

The Democrats do not secure the border so illegals from Mexico that measures millions of people run in to America.

So the solution is to merge America and Mexico together as one.

Trump wanting Canada to be the 51st state.

The political parties working together but they have to play their role of the opposing force until they harmonize the Hegel System a new form of government.
 
I do not believe Donald Trump is a Christian.

His behavior is not Christlike.

And he loves money.

Which he violates love and faith the 2 main ingredients to be right with God.

I believe he is following the new age christianity.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

The new age movement that interprets the Bible and religions according to the occult and evolution, and people are going to evolve to be spiritual, and greater, and Jesus became an ascended master among others, and there is no personal God, but they honor the God of forces the power of the Cosmos, and the New Age Christ is the next world teacher.

The time will come that people will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but want to hear it according to the new age.

Their perspective of reality has changed and they want to establish that on a world wide scale.

Which the new age is a Caucasian led plan.

This is what I believe.

The top leaders of the Republicans and Democrats are actually working together which is the Hegel System which they set up 2 opposing forces and then they harmonize them together with a balance between them which they believe is a better system than either system alone and it brings the people together

Which on the back of the dollar bill, Announcing the conception of a new order of the ages, and out of many, one.

America and Russia were working together the whole time as the 2 opposing forces of the Hegel System.

Which the one world government will be a balance between democracy and communism, and the unified religious system a balance between atheism and spirituality, the new age christianity which they believe they are going to evolve to be spiritual, and greater.

WW1, League of Nations, WW2, United Nations, a set up to get the nations governments to work for peace on earth.

Controlled conflict brings about controlled change.

Donald Trump was set up to increase the fighting between the political parties.

He told the United Nations the nations need to step it up and work for peace like America does.

He is being bold in the eyes of the world with Venezuela, Greenland, and whatever else, because it is time to drive the world together.

He wants to make America out to be bad in the eyes of the world so it will drive them together.

Like the government wants the people to view it as bad, corrupt, not good leaders, cannot handle finances.

So along with the political fighting it will be easier to go to a new form of government.

People say with Greenland it could escalate in to a war between Europe and America.

But it is a scare tactic for I do not believe they want a war at this time.

Europe and America are actually working together along with Russia.

And WW1 and WW2 involved Europe for it is their plan along with America.

And they are willing to sacrifice their people to achieve their goal.

America is looking at the world and that is scary.

For then they will not care about their own people.

Which they are probably going to collapse America for it will be the birth of the New World Order.

Greenland situation they say could be the end of NATO.

Which is probably what they want along with America no longer working for peace on earth fighting terrorism.

The world will have no choice but to come together to work for peace.

America, Europe, Russia, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, are waiting for the New Age Christ to negotiate peace in the Middle East.

He will then push the agenda of the new age.

World divided in to 10 sections.

The Democrats do not secure the border so illegals from Mexico that measures millions of people run in to America.

So the solution is to merge America and Mexico together as one.

Trump wanting Canada to be the 51st state.

The political parties working together but they have to play their role of the opposing force until they harmonize the Hegel System a new form of government.
Excellent scripture describing Trump and many Christians today.


1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
 
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Excellent scripture describing Trump and many Christians today.


1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Amen. Something has flipped in Donald; I think he's lost all restraint.
 
First of all: I am from North Europe. Specifically from Norway.

Now; what we see from the news here is that Mr Trump wants Greenland. Are you in doubt of that?
Just listen to what Mr Trump says, he said : "We need Greenland !"

He has repeated this over and over. Now, Greenland is not part of US. It's a part of the kingdom of Denmark.
Much like Alaska is a part of US. Understand?

So, if Greenland is of Denmark, but Mr Trump wants it, how can he accomplish that? Through violence?
This is just an (another) example of how Mr Trump acts, and I have to ask you:

Are his intentions and acts in accordance with christian thinking and behaviour? And of course this is not limited to Mr Trump alone, we have to include his friends in his administration, like Mr Vance. Isn't he a catholic? How can one support these intentions in accordance with catholic ethics and thinking?

I just have to ask you.
Trump is definitely not a moral or ethical individual let alone one who follows anything in accordance with Christianity. Yet somehow he convinced many that he is.
 
First of all: I am from North Europe. Specifically from Norway.

Now; what we see from the news here is that Mr Trump wants Greenland. Are you in doubt of that?
Just listen to what Mr Trump says, he said : "We need Greenland !"

He has repeated this over and over. Now, Greenland is not part of US. It's a part of the kingdom of Denmark.
Much like Alaska is a part of US. Understand?

So, if Greenland is of Denmark, but Mr Trump wants it, how can he accomplish that? Through violence?
This is just an (another) example of how Mr Trump acts, and I have to ask you:

Are his intentions and acts in accordance with christian thinking and behaviour? And of course this is not limited to Mr Trump alone, we have to include his friends in his administration, like Mr Vance. Isn't he a catholic? How can one support these intentions in accordance with catholic ethics and thinking?

I just have to ask you.
Firstly,America is a Republic. With a Democratic form of governance.

We are not a Theocracy. Which means one religion does not govern our country on a Federal or State level.

Further, while President Trump is a Christian,he is also a president who must comport himself according to the rules and guidelines under law in this Constitutional Republic.
Note,it is not a Biblical Republic.

Lastly,as to your question regarding Greenland and the Bible, I think if you read the Old Testament you'll learn a lot.
God sent his Hebrew armies in to overcome kingdoms and people.