Did Jesus Shed His Blood For Retained Sins (Unremitted Sins)?
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God is not limited by man's ideas or thoughts! Yet it seems that He is tried to be by most churches !
Jesus did not die for the sins which are retained in hell.
See this " Retained Sins " is like hell. Well what version are we running with here? Are (forgive me Father) they in "hell" burning.. are they just in darkness or are they all just sleeping waiting till judgment? So some believe He died for all your sins.. He already died for the "sin" of the world. He cannot die again. Some believe if you don't confess your sin if you do not forgive well He wont or can't forgive you and if you die those sins are sill there. Yeah some believe you don't go to heaven if you have not repented of all your sins.
A view where in 1st John he was talking to a group that believed they didn't sin didn't have sin and believed Jesus was not the true messiah. And as you start Chapter 1 you understand now why he said we touched we heard we saw so forth so on. Why he said if we say we have no sin we deceive our self's and the truth is not in us. Then we know the this wonderful verse "if we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us.... "
Do you ever wonder .. he said "if"? If I don't confess it He wont forgive me? Some believe this. But was John talking to those like in Chapter two "My little Children". Read Chapter 1 then Chapter 2. Talking to the same group was he? Just tossing this one out there also.
So try to back up what you say OP with Gods word. Just saying it.. does not make it true. Heres the kicker... its not what we believer here its what YOU believe and if this is what you believe.. you best live your live this why....He will hold you to it.
When God is willing to Forgive sinfulness, Why does mankind try to find other ways of do This ? ?
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
If a person holds on to sin the blood of Christ cannot wash it away.
So Jesus' blood is not for retained sins.
If it was true all people would be saved.
2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Some people claiming Christianity hold on to sin and do not come to the truth.
That does not mean we might not sin although we have the power to not sin by the Holy Spirit.
But if we sin we must repent and truly mean we do not want it and allow the Spirit to lead us.
God knows the heart.
That is true for sins can only be forgiven while in the flesh.
If sins can be forgiven in hell all people would be saved or at least at the judgement.
All sin resides in the flesh for in the flesh dwells no good thing.
Jesus told the Jews that if they did not believe who He said about Himself they would die in their sins.
If a person dies in their sins there is no reversal.
For there is nowhere to put off the sin.
Angels are 1 component.
So when they sinned there was nowhere to put off the sin.
So they tainted their whole being.
Which there is no reversal.
A person is body, and soul, and spirit.
All spirits go back to God who gave them regardless of how the person acted.
No person retains their spirit after they die whether good or bad.
All sin resides in the flesh.
So a saint being forgiven the sin is put off to the flesh.
And the soul is preserved.
So their entire being is not tainted.
If a person dies in their sins they are done with the flesh.
So there is nowhere to put off the flesh.
So their entire being is tainted like the fallen angels.
There is no reversal.
It is because of the flesh people do not make it to heaven.
But it is because we are in the flesh we can be saved.
Lev 16:10 But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an atonement with him, and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness.
Lev 16:21 And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:
Lev 16:22 And the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited: and he shall let go the goat in the wilderness.
The flesh is like the scapegoat.
His blood was shed to cover all sin, HOWEVER, it's not automatically applied. If it was automatically applied to all sin, then no one would be in sin because they would have already been remitted. To obtain remission of one's sins and actually make contact with the cleansing power of Christ's blood, man must do his part which is where the process of salvation comes into play: man must believe and have faith, confess his belief, repent, and be baptized into Christ for the remission of sins. After doing so, the blood of Christ is applied.
it's difficult to vote on, because the reality Jesus did take on punishment for our sin nature. He did so to give mankind the chance to live,You back up what you are claimig by voting on this topic poll. We did.
I'm on the fence sorry, and don't know which way to vote,
You make no sense. Sins are not retained in hell. Sinners are in hell. Do you know what "all" means? I looked it up in the Hebrew. It means all. Isaiah 53:6Jesus did not die for the sins which are retained in hell.