Faith is the root of salvation and works are the fruit. No fruit at all would demonstrate there is no root. All genuine believers are fruitful but not all are equally fruitful.
Acts 2:38 Comparison: Evangelical vs. Oneness / Baptismal-Regeneration View
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That sounds like "type 2 works salvation" or salvation by works at the back door. So, how many works are needed to prevent death? Where do you draw the line in the sand?
The "line"? Remission of sins
Where do you draw the line on what level of faith alone saves?
The line. John 3:18 - He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who (is not water baptized? - NO) does not believe is condemned already, because he has not (been water baptized? - NO) because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Acts 10:43 - Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins.
Acts 13:38 -Therefore let it be known to you, brethren, that through this Man is preached to you the forgiveness of sins; 39 and by Him everyone who believes is justified from all things from which you could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Acts 26:18 - to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.
The line in the sand on what level of faith saves is the level that trusts in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. (Romans 3:24-26; 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9)
This is what they are blind to.[/QUOTE] Those who are blind teach salvation by works (Romans 4:6; 11:6; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9) and refuse to believe the gospel. (2 Corinthians 4:3,4)[/QUOTE]Faith that trusts in Jesus Christ "alone" for salvation saves. (Romans 3:24-26; 4:5-6; 5:1; Ephesians 2:8,9 etc..).
Romans 5:1 - Therefore, having been justified by faith, (apart from editions or modifications, hence faith alone) we have peace with God through are Lord Jesus Christ.
Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace you have been saved through faith, (apart from editions or modifications, hence faith alone) and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
*So much for salvation by works.*
Salvation by grace, through faith, not works is logical (except for the natural man - 1 Corinthians 2:14) and Biblical.
I have addressed your problem and your flawed logic that culminates in salvation by works on numerous occasions.
Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ephesians 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Ephesians 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Same speaker same message just different audience but same message. "Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
" "so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death"Romans 4:17
as it is written, “I have made you the father of many nations”—in the presence of the God in whom he believed, who gives life to the dead and calls into existence the things that do not exist.
"Baptized into Christ" does not mean water baptized into the body of Christ. That is only accomplished through Spirit baptism. (1 Corinthians 12:13) Now in what "sense" would a believer be "water baptized into Christ?" In the same "sense" that the Israelites were "baptized into Moses.." (1 Corinthians 10:2) The Israelites were not literally water baptized into the body of Moses and there is little dispute that being "baptized into Moses" signified the open allegiance and public identification of the Israelites with Moses as their leader. Moses was formally recognized as the leader of the covenant people. Water baptism signifies our allegiance and public identification with Christ as our Savior, so it would only be in that sense. Baptism as a picture of death and burial symbolizes our likeness to Christ in his death.
In regard to Romans 6:3-4, as Greek scholar AT Robertson explains - Baptism is the public proclamation of one's inward spiritual relation to Christ attained before the baptism. See on "Galatians 3:27" where it is like putting on an outward garment or uniform. Into his death (ei ton qanaton autou). So here "unto his death," "in relation to his death," which relation Paul proceeds to explain by the symbolism of the ordinance. The picture in baptism points two ways, backwards to Christ's death and burial and to our death to sin, forward to Christ's resurrection from the dead and to our new life pledged by the coming out of the watery grave to walk on the other side of the baptismal grave. There is the further picture of our own resurrection from the grave. It is a tragedy that Paul's majestic picture here has been so blurred by controversy that some refuse to see it. It should be said also that a symbol is not the reality, but the picture of the reality.
https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/eng/rwp/romans-6.html
Before mentioning baptism in chapter 6, Paul had repeatedly emphasized that faith, not baptism is the instrumental cause of salvation/justification. (Romans 1:16, 3:22-30; 4:4-6, 13; 5:1) That is when the old man was put to death and united in the likeness of His death, which water baptism symbolizes and pictures. Righteousness is "imputed to us who believe in Him who raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead, who was delivered up because of our offenses, and was raised up because of our justification." (Romans 4:24,25)
Since believers receive the benefits of Christ’s death and resurrection (justification), and that through faith, believers must be spiritually united to Him (delivered and raised up with Him). If baptism is taken as the instrumental cause, then Paul contradicts what he had established before, namely that justification is by faith, not baptism. *Hermeneutics. Paul clearly teaches that what is signified in baptism (buried and raised with Christ) actually occurs "through faith." Christians are "buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead" (Colossians 2:12). Justification on account of union in Christ's death, burial and resurrection is brought about "through faith" - and is properly symbolized by dipping the new believer in and out of the water.
"Through His blood" (as in Colossians 1:14) is an expression pointing to the totality of Christ's atoning work as a sacrifice for sin. The word "cross" is used similarly to refer to the whole atoning work of Christ on the cross (1 Corinthians 1:18; Galatians 6:12,14; Ephesians 2:16)
Believed the gospel, sealed with the Holy Spirit and this takes placed prior to receiving water baptism. (Acts 10:43-47)
By grace through faith, not works. (Ephesians 2:5-9)Ephesians 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
*What happened to baptism in Ephesians 2:8?
Saved by grace through faith is not the same message as saved by grace through baptism. Faith is not baptism, and faith precedes baptism and we are saved through faith. It's just that simple. We are saved by grace through faith, not works. (Ephesians 2:8,9)Same speaker same message just different audience but same message. "Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
Water baptism is not into Christ, but into his death. The children of Israel would not have been saved if they hadn't been baptized in the Red Sea. It wasn't merely a symbol; it was the portal from slavery into freedom. They were baptized into Moses' death to Egypt, which occurred 40 years prior.
Romans 6:3 reads - Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? This verse is clear that it's both and not one or the other. The question is in what "sense" are we baptized into Christ Jesus and what baptism is Paul talking about? *Only Spirit baptism can place us into the body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:13) so it's not in that sense in regard to water baptism.
Now the Israelites were "baptized into Moses" in the cloud and in the sea (not literal water immersion as the Israelites crossed over on dry land and the Egyptians were literally immersed in the water, and they all perished) so this "baptism into Moses" signifies the open allegiance and public identification of the Israelites with Moses as their leader.
@mailmandan
Verse 13
For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free; and were all made to drink of one Spirit.
In one Spirit were we all baptized ... Throughout the New Testament, Christian baptism is revealed to be one of the two essential elements of the new birth, without which no man may see the kingdom of God. These are: obedience to the ordinance of baptism and the reception of the Holy Spirit. Jesus joined these two essential elements by his requirement that people be "born of the water and of the Spirit" (John 3:5ff). Peter joined them on Pentecost by the command that all people should "repent and be baptized ... and ... receive the Holy Spirit" (Acts 2:38ff). There is no doubt whatever that Paul's words here refer to the same twin essentials of the new birth, the same being a prior condition of participation in the body of Christ.
In one Spirit ... As Kelcy said, `This is actually `by one Spirit,' making the Holy Spirit the agent or administrator of baptism."19 In a similar way, Christ was named as the actual administrator of the rite of baptism, even though his disciples actually did the baptizing (John 4:1,2). The unity of the godhead makes it correct to refer any action ordained and commanded by God, to the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit; and when the action is obeyed, it is proper to say that any one of them did it. This truth does not exclude the reception of the indwelling Spirit in Christian hearts, as Paul dogmatically emphasized that in the very next clause, "made to drink of one Spirit."
We were all baptized ... and were all made to drink of one Spirit ... As Metz correctly noted, "the word `baptized' relates to the actual act of baptism."20 The mention of the Spirit as the administrator of baptism in this verse provoked Hodge to declare that the baptism in view, therefore, is "the baptism of the Holy Ghost!"21 If that is true, it would make Paul here declare that all of the Corinthians were baptized in the Holy Ghost, or had received the Holy Spirit baptism! Who could believe such a thing? It is true of course that all of them had themselves baptized, and in consequence had all received the gift ordinary of the Holy Spirit, common to all Christians; but to suppose that those carnal Corinthians had "all" participated in the baptism of the Holy Spirit is impossible. Of course, the design of many scholars is to get water baptism out of this text altogether; but that is also impossible.
All made to drink of one Spirit ... This refers to the reception of the ordinary gift of the indwelling Spirit by the Corinthians in consequence of primary obedience to the gospel. "There is no evidence that all the disciples at Corinth, or any of them, had been baptized in the Holy Spirit."22
From Coffman's commentary on the bible located online in Studylight.org
Verse 13
For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free; and were all made to drink of one Spirit.
In one Spirit were we all baptized ... Throughout the New Testament, Christian baptism is revealed to be one of the two essential elements of the new birth, without which no man may see the kingdom of God. These are: obedience to the ordinance of baptism and the reception of the Holy Spirit. Jesus joined these two essential elements by his requirement that people be "born of the water and of the Spirit" (John 3:5ff). Peter joined them on Pentecost by the command that all people should "repent and be baptized ... and ... receive the Holy Spirit" (Acts 2:38ff). There is no doubt whatever that Paul's words here refer to the same twin essentials of the new birth, the same being a prior condition of participation in the body of Christ.
In one Spirit ... As Kelcy said, `This is actually `by one Spirit,' making the Holy Spirit the agent or administrator of baptism."19 In a similar way, Christ was named as the actual administrator of the rite of baptism, even though his disciples actually did the baptizing (John 4:1,2). The unity of the godhead makes it correct to refer any action ordained and commanded by God, to the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit; and when the action is obeyed, it is proper to say that any one of them did it. This truth does not exclude the reception of the indwelling Spirit in Christian hearts, as Paul dogmatically emphasized that in the very next clause, "made to drink of one Spirit."
We were all baptized ... and were all made to drink of one Spirit ... As Metz correctly noted, "the word `baptized' relates to the actual act of baptism."20 The mention of the Spirit as the administrator of baptism in this verse provoked Hodge to declare that the baptism in view, therefore, is "the baptism of the Holy Ghost!"21 If that is true, it would make Paul here declare that all of the Corinthians were baptized in the Holy Ghost, or had received the Holy Spirit baptism! Who could believe such a thing? It is true of course that all of them had themselves baptized, and in consequence had all received the gift ordinary of the Holy Spirit, common to all Christians; but to suppose that those carnal Corinthians had "all" participated in the baptism of the Holy Spirit is impossible. Of course, the design of many scholars is to get water baptism out of this text altogether; but that is also impossible.
All made to drink of one Spirit ... This refers to the reception of the ordinary gift of the indwelling Spirit by the Corinthians in consequence of primary obedience to the gospel. "There is no evidence that all the disciples at Corinth, or any of them, had been baptized in the Holy Spirit."22
From Coffman's commentary on the bible located online in Studylight.org
Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.Paul's declaration again. Remember the only baptism Jesus authorized them to baptize with is the one in his name (Acts 2:38)
Ephesians 4:5 One Lord,what baptism one faith, one baptism, Now ask yourself, what baptism did Jesus authorize the Apostles to baptize with?
Ask yourself what baptism did John say Jesus would baptize with?
Only Jesus who knows mans the true repentant heart, can baptize with the Holy Spirit.
God Breathed Word
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, ONE BAPTISM!
1 Cor 12:
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Note this carefully:
BY ONE SPIRIT WE ARE ALL BAPTIZED INTO ONE BODY.
Scripture proclaims:
ONE BAPTISM, INTO ONE BODY, DONE BY CHRIST' HOLY SPIRIT & NO H2O REQUIRED!
1 Cor 14 "spirit"” (lowercase) human spirit/disposition:
2:11, 4:21, 5:3, 6:20, 7:34, 14:14, 14:15, 14:16, 14:32
1 Cor 14 "Spirit" (capital S) > Holy Spirit:
2:4, 2:10, 2:11, 2:12, 2:13, 3:16, 6:11, 6:19, 7:40, 12:3, 12:4, 12:7, 12:8, 12:9, 12:11, 12:13, 14:2, 14:14, 15:45
These are not random choices. Translation committees consistently capitalize "Spirit" when the context clearly refers to the Holy Spirit & they consistently leave "spirit" lowercase when it refers to the human spirit or human disposition.
In 1 Cor 12:13 they deliberately capitalized "Spirit," signaling that Paul is speaking of the HOLY SPIRIT as the baptizer, not water, not a preacher, not a ceremony. It's a divine action.
If you reject their judgment here, you are not rejecting my interpretation. You are rejecting the translators of the very source you continually regurgitate Act: 2:38 from. And if you accept their judgment, then 1 Cor 12:13 is Holy Spirit baptism, which, when lined up with the "one baptism" of Eph 4:5, cannot be water baptism
Either way, your water-baptism-saves doctrine collapses under the weight of the translators you need to trust.
If you're telling me the translators were wrong to capitalize "Spirit" in 1 Cor 12:13, then your doctrine depends on correcting the very Bible you claim you're defending.
How about just answering his question?
None of your verses addresses the level of faith that becomes the "when" for the remission of sins.
Precious friend, @Biilybob65, with God's Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, we find
The Following Precious Gem!:
Confusing baptisms = Short/brief answer: BaptismS Scriptural Summary!:
LORD JESUS, please open our hearts to ALL of Thy Truth. Amen:
Prophecy/Covenants/Law { for earthly Israel }:
►►► The Twelve Were Sent to {water} baptize! ◄◄◄
The two "Main" (of 12) baptismS =
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►►►►►► Authorized By Jesus To His Twelve earthly apostles?
A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3:5-6; Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; John 1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 10:37)
(Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Ezekiel 36:25 AV) ◄◄◄◄◄◄
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B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44:3; Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8, 16:17-18; Luke 24:49;
Acts 2:17-18, 38; Acts 8:15-17; Acts 11:16 AV)
Yesterday!
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):
Today!:
...In God's Other Program of Mystery And GRACE! For The
[ Heavenly ] Body Of Christ!!:
►►►►►►
NO Authorization By Jesus to sprinkle water To His One Heavenly apostle?
◄◄◄◄◄◄ =
None! ►►► Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?: ◄◄◄= Because!:
Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION
Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
(Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27;
Romans 6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13 AV)
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Concluding Question: God's ONE Baptism, Under Grace Today? = ONE?
Or, as some teach, we need to "add" water baptism [ from God's Other
Prophetic Program ] thus making Two baptisms Under Mystery/Grace =
bad Math ( which God Doesn't Have ), Correct, Precious friend(s)?
Longer/E-x-p-o-u-n-d-e-d answer is here: ONE [ Spiritual ] Baptism
Amen.
Also see UnScriptural or UNdispensational?
And, Amen!
Ask yourself what baptism did John say Jesus would baptize with? John said Jesus would baptize with the spirit and the scriptures confirm he did just that. Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. See this is right after the cross when Jesus fulfilled the prophecy of what John had foretold. It is the only one that is in his name (by his authority) It is the only one recorded as giving the spirit. It is not that hard to understand unless we let our bias get in the way.
Paul explains this one baptism in Romans 6 where he is speaking to the saints at Rome. Why do we fight so hard to reject this grace of God. Why nit trust and obey and enjoy the blessings we get from the baptism Jesus baptizes with. It is the only Jesus has authorized for us to submit to.
As to the meaning of 1 Corinthians 12 see post #2070 Remember John 4:1 Jesus did the baptizing even though he did not do the dipping same concept here. Lets not let our bias get in the way of understanding.
Here is some new fat for you to chew on. Maybe the scriptures are telling you that through the Spirit"s teaching (the word of God) one is baptized by the truth of the words about baptism by that faith they are saved. Maybe your indoctrination has blinded you to that truth?
@GRACE_ambassador
Authorized By Jesus To His Twelve earthly apostles?
A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3:5-6; Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; John 1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 10:37)
(Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Ezekiel 36:25 AV
This I am in agreement with. This is the beginning of the gospel; that John baptized with and then John said that Jesus was to baptize with the spirit which he did starting in Acts 2:38 the difference in that of John is that John could not give the spirit but Jesus baptism after the cross did give the spirit.
B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44:3; Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8, 16:17-18; Luke 24:49;
Acts 2:17-18, 38; Acts 8:15-17; Acts 11:16 AV)
This was never promised to everyone. It is for a special purpose and that you listed to be a sign that the speaker is from God and not speaking on his own. It was to spread the gospel and plant new churches confirming that the Word was from God. Not a promise to all believers and could only be given by the laying on of hands after the initial out pouring of the Jews (Acts 20 and on the gentiles (Acts 10). I challenge you to show me where this is normal out side of Acts 2 and ten with out the laying on of hands.
NO Authorization By Jesus to sprinkle water To His One Heavenly apostle?
◄◄◄◄◄◄ =
None! ►►► Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?: ◄◄◄
= Because!:
This my dear sister is where you go off the rails. Jesus commissioned everyone , the Apostles, you, me Everyone to Matthew 2819 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: This command is in effect to this day . Why did Paul say he was not sent to baptize but to preach the gospel? Dis he really mean he was not to baptize if so why did he baptize some? He was against his mission if you have it your way so maybe he meant he was not required to do the dipping but still was require to teach baptism in Christ name. Please if you go back to study that chapter please let the scriptures do the talking and do not let your bias get in the way of scriptural teaching.
Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION
Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
(Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27;
Romans 6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13 AV)
Please study this a little more carefully and you can see that the one baptism of Ephesians 4:5 is that of Acts 2:38 for it is the only on Christ commanded and gives the spirit to all who submit therefore it is the Spirit baptism that joins us all to Christ death Romans 6.
Remember that the Spirit baptizes the same way Jesus baptized in John 4:1 the one baptism is the only one that bears the name of Jesus Christ it is the baptism he baptizes with.
Authorized By Jesus To His Twelve earthly apostles?
A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3:5-6; Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; John 1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 10:37)
(Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Ezekiel 36:25 AV
This I am in agreement with. This is the beginning of the gospel; that John baptized with and then John said that Jesus was to baptize with the spirit which he did starting in Acts 2:38 the difference in that of John is that John could not give the spirit but Jesus baptism after the cross did give the spirit.
B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44:3; Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8, 16:17-18; Luke 24:49;
Acts 2:17-18, 38; Acts 8:15-17; Acts 11:16 AV)
This was never promised to everyone. It is for a special purpose and that you listed to be a sign that the speaker is from God and not speaking on his own. It was to spread the gospel and plant new churches confirming that the Word was from God. Not a promise to all believers and could only be given by the laying on of hands after the initial out pouring of the Jews (Acts 20 and on the gentiles (Acts 10). I challenge you to show me where this is normal out side of Acts 2 and ten with out the laying on of hands.
NO Authorization By Jesus to sprinkle water To His One Heavenly apostle?
◄◄◄◄◄◄ =
None! ►►► Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?: ◄◄◄
= Because!:
This my dear sister is where you go off the rails. Jesus commissioned everyone , the Apostles, you, me Everyone to Matthew 2819 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: This command is in effect to this day . Why did Paul say he was not sent to baptize but to preach the gospel? Dis he really mean he was not to baptize if so why did he baptize some? He was against his mission if you have it your way so maybe he meant he was not required to do the dipping but still was require to teach baptism in Christ name. Please if you go back to study that chapter please let the scriptures do the talking and do not let your bias get in the way of scriptural teaching.
Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION
Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
(Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27;
Romans 6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13 AV)
Please study this a little more carefully and you can see that the one baptism of Ephesians 4:5 is that of Acts 2:38 for it is the only on Christ commanded and gives the spirit to all who submit therefore it is the Spirit baptism that joins us all to Christ death Romans 6.
Remember that the Spirit baptizes the same way Jesus baptized in John 4:1 the one baptism is the only one that bears the name of Jesus Christ it is the baptism he baptizes with.
One SPIRIT One Baptism - NO WATER
Vine’s Expository Dictionary defines the gospel (euangelion) as the good news of salvation through Christ, received by faith, on the basis of His expiatory death, His burial, and His resurrection. Vine’s even cites 1 Corinthians 15:1–4 as the definitive passage describing the gospel.
https://studybible.info/vines/Gospel (Noun and Verb: to preach)
Cited verses 1 Cor 15:1–4
1, I declare unto you the gospel
2, By which also ye are saved
3, Christ died for our sins
4, He was buried, and rose again the third day
That is the God Breathe gospel by which they were SAVED & received by FAITH! < see Vine's above.
Now here is the summary Scripture itself gives:
A sinless Christ (2 Cor 5:21;; Heb 4:15; 1 Jn 3:5; 1 Pet 1:19; 1 Pet 2:22)
Died for our sins (paying sin’s required wage — Rom 6:23)
Buried (proof of death — 1 Cor 15:4)
Raised the 3rd day (the Father’s receipt sins payment was accepted — Rom 4:24–25)
That is the gospel.
Repent and be baptized is not the gospel. It's a response to the gospel & not the gospel/good tiding's itself.
If Acts 2:38 were the gospel, then Paul preached a different gospel in 1 Cor 15.
Paul says the opposite: He preached the same gospel everywhere (1 Cor 15:11). see below
5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
"""""""""""""""11 Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.""""""""""""""""
So either:
Paul is right about what the gospel is
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Oneness doctrine is right & Paul left out the very things they claim are essential. There is no third option
Yes i agree that the gospel is Christ death burial and resurrection never said otherwise but what you reject is that the gospel call has to be obeyed and thus the response is the baptism in Christ name. It is there we join Christ at the cross we are baptized into his death we are buried with him in baptism and are sins are washed away and we are resurrected in a new life in the spirit see Romans 6. We put on Christ. We are one with Christ.
Paul is not the one having trouble seeing this he is trying to get you to open your eyes to what he is saying.
Read verse 9 in the scriptures you posted then read verse 11 next to it and pay close attention to the words "Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, " see we preach both Peter and Paul and all the Apostles preach the same. Right here Paul said what I have been trying to get you to see. You are the one that posted it. I rest my case.
1st, I spoke plainly to baptism as an act of obedience following salvation accessed by FAITH alone in post #1801
2ndly, I posted on how Faith flows from grace & leads to obedience in post # 1823
Find here a TWO‑WITNESS SALVATION CONFIRMATION: Citing Peter & Paul preached the same message & the 411 on my intent, when I posted 1 Cor 15:11: WE Peter & Paul PREACH & so YOU BELIEVE
Both explicitly call Jesus God:
Peter: 2 Pet 1:1, our God and Savior Jesus Christ
Paul: Titus 2:13, our great God and Savior Jesus Christ & Rom 9:5, Christ, who is God over all
Two‑witness point: Both apostles use the same construction (God & Savior) & both directly call Jesus God.
Both teach the resurrection as the center of the gospel
Peter: Acts 2:32, This Jesus God raised up
Paul: 1 Cor 15:3–4, Christ died, was buried, and rose again
Two‑witness point: Both apostles preach the resurrection as the core of the gospel message.
Both quote Joel 2:32 to define salvation
Peter: Acts 2:21, whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved
Paul: Rom 10:13, whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved
Two‑witness point: Both apostles anchor salvation in calling on the Lord, not ritual performance. Both quote the same verse once & both use it as the salvation principle.
Both teach salvation by faith in Christ’s name
Peter: Acts 10:43, everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins
Paul: Rom 3:26, God justifies “the one who has faith in Jesus
Two‑witness point: Both apostles teach forgiveness through faith in Christ, not through works or water.
Both teach that Jesus is the cornerstone
Peter: 1 Peter 2:6–7, Christ is the cornerstone of Isa 28:16
Paul: Eph 2:20, Christ is the cornerstone
Two‑witness point: Both apostles identify Jesus as the salvations foundation stone
Both teach the universal Lordship of Christ
Peter: Acts 2:36, God has made Him both Lord and Christ
Paul: Phil 2:11 — “every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord”
Two‑witness point: Both apostles proclaim Jesus as Lord in the divine sense, not merely a title.
Summery:
Peter & Paul preach the same Christ, the same salvation, the same resurrection, the same Lordship, the same deity, the same cornerstone & the same Joel 2:32 salvation call. Their ministries differ in audience & stewardship, not message.
And notably, while Peter uses "repent & be baptized ONCE in a Jewish‑Pentecost context. Paul never teaches that formula anywhere in his writings, "not even a single time", yet both apostles still define salvation the same way: by FAITH in Christ & calling on the authority placed in His name.