The Error is Baptism in Jesus name only for salvation

BillG · Tuesday at 5:09 PM

Ouch said:

Just answer the questions.
You are great at avoiding them.
Why is that?
Brainwashed?

How we're people saved in the OT?
And were all saved?

CS1 · Tuesday at 5:09 PM

Ouch said:

Listen, you can be unlearned bible enthusiasts and dismiss the Word of God provided, and as I answered your qestion, you asked one to provide, then responded to it with no Biblical refute, which makes you look like a troll. You result in name-calling, then play the victim like a child when one does what you did to others. Troll.

Ouch · Tuesday at 5:11 PM

BillG said:

I have tried to answer every question you have asked.

Faith, GOD spoke to them and they heard it. They feared him and LOVED him be great if men did that today.

BillG · Tuesday at 5:14 PM

Ouch said:

No you haven't.
You deflect
How were people in the OT saved?

Ouch · Tuesday at 5:15 PM

CS1 said:

You do think you know every thing when I point it out you get mad. I don't get mad at you for being rude I just point out that you are.

You still have not answered my 2 questions because the first one you can't and the second not answering that answers that.

Ouch · Tuesday at 5:17 PM

BillG said:

The LOVED and OBEYED GOD, they had their sins removed ones a year. Best I got.

CS1 · Tuesday at 5:20 PM

Ouch said:

No, as I said, which you again failed to see, please get your eyes checked, friend.

I said that no one can fully know the divine nature of the Living God.

I am not mad. But it is completely unbiblical, reckless, and foolish to say that one loved one who died in the hospital without water Baptism is not saved and went to hell as you said. Again, stop playing the victim and provide a biblical refute to Romans chapter 6, Matthew 28:19, and John chapter 3 1-18

BillG · Tuesday at 5:21 PM

Ouch said:

And you think you know everything and deflect when challenged.
You are rude, arrogant and judgement to the core.
You don't portray God the Father.
Quite ironic you accuse @CS1 of not answering questions, yet you never answer questions, you constantly quote Gods rules, you agree that there is nowhere Jesus said baptised in his name only for salvation.

You don't know the Bible and I beginning to beleive as others do that you are a troll.

CS1 · Tuesday at 5:21 PM

Ouch said:

now you are lying again, troll I answered it. All here will witness to that. good try

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Magenta · Tuesday at 5:22 PM

Ouch said:

John 8 verses 43, 47, Acts 13 verse 48, Romans 8 verse 8, John 8 verse 43 “Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you are unable to accept My message.” “Whoever belongs to God hears the words of God. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” When the Gentiles heard this, they rejoiced and glorified the word of the Lord, and all who were appointed for eternal life believed. Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God.

Magenta · Tuesday at 5:24 PM

Ouch said:

John 10 verses 27-28 My sheep hear My voice, I know them and they follow Me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them out of My hand.

Lamar · Tuesday at 5:24 PM

CS1 said:

The lack of understanding of water baptism and the idea it is a "rule." is completely unbiblical.

Jesus' discussion with Nicodemus in the Gospel of John chapter says:

3 There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. 2 This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”

3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

4 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”

5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

The word Baptism is not used in context to being born again, is it? Born of water and of the Spirit is what is Jesu saying?

9 Nicodemus answered and said to Him, “How can these things be?”

Jesus said :

10 Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things? 11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man [b]who is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

Not one word of Baptism in the context of eternal life

Is this how you reason???

You take a general statement of truth and label it as a all-encompassing axiom?

This is the bizarre nature of faith alone regeneration theology!

How can you use these verses to supersede the rest of the Bible?

These verses are so general that the key word "believe" is not even defined!

These verses are so general that Jesus Himself is speaking in the third person!

BillG · Tuesday at 5:24 PM

Ouch said:

If they loved and obeyed God then a sacrifice would not be needed.
Their sins were not removed, they were covered.

Lamar · Tuesday at 5:28 PM

CS1 said:

Name calling???

You recently called someone a buffoon.

Ouch · Tuesday at 5:28 PM

CS1 said:

No, as I said, which you again failed to see, please get your eyes checked, friend.

I said that no one can fully know the divine nature of the Living God.

I am not mad. But it is completely unbiblical, reckless, and foolish to say that one loved one who died in the hospital without water Baptism is not saved and went to hell as you said. Again, stop playing the victim and provide a biblical refute to Romans chapter 6, Matthew 28:19, and John chapter 3 1-18

So you would lie to them and tell them they will be with JESUS?

Ouch · Tuesday at 5:30 PM

BillG said:

Can you tell me what these verses say?

Acts 2:38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

BillG · Tuesday at 5:30 PM

Ouch said:

Once again you don't answer the question.

Ouch · Tuesday at 5:31 PM

CS1 said:

Yea, you like to grandstand YOU HAVE NOT!!

BillG · Tuesday at 5:32 PM

Ouch said:

What did Jesus say in Matthew?
How did Paul say we are saved?

I'm not denying that baptism is important but it's not for salvation.
If that's the case then did Jesus need to die?

Ouch · Tuesday at 5:33 PM

BillG said:

LOL why did GOD tell them to build the tabernacle and to bring animals to sacrifice.

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