Loss of salvation???

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Cameron143

Cameron143

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Genez said:
You are going in circles, sir.

If you seriously want to understand what you claim you want to understand?

Try this.... and take possibly about forty hours to study all that you need to know.
This format is terrible for answers that need a foundation to be laid before the answer can be understood.

Here is what God provided for us: https://www.rbthieme.org/index.html#tabs-3

And, here is the list to choose from: https://www.rbthieme.org/PDF/LessonListingForWeb2014.pdf


It is sad and ridiculous to try to give a simple answer, when a person is asking for an answer had not yet developed the capacity for it.

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As usual, rather than give an answer, you simply denigrate. No fruit, no growth.
I would say thanks for the discussion, but we didn't actually have one.
Grace and peace.
 
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GWH said:
Because He loves them as much as He loves you and me.
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Loves them enough for what? To tease them with something He knew they'd reject. Sorry man this makes no sense at all on ANY level. This would make God unsure, inept, weak, pointless, and a liar. This brings us to the fact His word completely contradicts that Jesus loses ANY the Father gives Him. Doesn't it?
 
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Cameron143 said:
As usual, rather than give an answer, you simply denigrate. No fruit, no growth.
I would say thanks for the discussion, but we didn't actually have one.
Grace and peace.
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You really do not desire the truth, as it has to be craved.
To you, it is only a like conversation piece.

Those who really crave truth will find it.

For those who are only curious about truth?
Should find another hobby.
 
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Cameron143 said:
As usual, rather than give an answer, you simply denigrate. No fruit, no growth.
I would say thanks for the discussion, but we didn't actually have one.
Grace and peace.
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There is a treasure trove of fruit and growth in the links that he provided.

Sometimes true gifts aren't packaged in the nice little wrappings we expect.
 
Cameron143

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Kroogz said:
There is a treasure trove of fruit and growth in the links that he provided.

Sometimes true gifts aren't packaged in the nice little wrappings we expect.
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Sure he gets some things correct. If you find it a trove, it simply means you had alot to learn. But he isn't right about everything, and when people disagree with him, he doesn't explain his position, but resorts to insults.
Some people feel better about themselves by tearing others down. He is one such person.
 
Genez

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Sipsey said:
If God knows the beginning from the end (and He does), why on earth would He save someone to begin with that He knows will ultimately reject that salvation?
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He died for everything that would have kept them separated from God,
to leave everyone in Hell to be without an excuse for being there.

When God is finished letting a person live his life.
Living to discover who and what he really wants to be?
They will all know it was not God's fault.

God’s name, will never be cursed from the Lake of Fire!

They will no longer be able to deny it, and will have to admit the very truth that they died to deny.

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Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, ​
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, ​
and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, ​
to the glory of God the Father.​
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Philippians 2:9-11​
 
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Cameron143 said:
Sure he gets some things correct. If you find it a trove, it simply means you had alot to learn. But he isn't right about everything, and when people disagree with him, he doesn't explain his position, but resorts to insults.
Some people feel better about themselves by tearing others down. He is one such person.
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Irony much?
 
Genez

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Cameron143 said:
Sure he gets some things correct. If you find it a trove, it simply means you had alot to learn. But he isn't right about everything, and when people disagree with him, he doesn't explain his position, but resorts to insults.
Some people feel better about themselves by tearing others down. He is one such person.
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With your standard? You should learn from nobody!

Even Paul failed at a point.

Why are you wasting away the time you have been given?
 
Cameron143

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Genez said:
With your standard? You should learn from nobody!

Even Paul failed at a point.

Why are you wasting away the time you have been given?
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The only waste of time was entering into a discussion with you where the outcome was already known. I should have known better. Grace and peace.
 
Genez

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Cameron143 said:
The only waste of time was entering into a discussion with you where the outcome was already known. I should have known better. Grace and peace.
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To glorify God is sometimes to leave others without excuse.
Not, to simply win them over.

Jesus glorified the Father.
 
Cameron143

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Genez said:
To glorify God is sometimes to leave others without excuse.
Not, to simply win them over.

Jesus glorified the Father.
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See. You were right that Jesus did glorify the Father. If you think you have done the first thing, you think far greater of yourself than you ought.
 
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Job 19 verses 25-27a I know that my Redeemer lives, and in the end He will stand upon the earth. Even after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God. I will see Him for myself; my eyes will behold Him, and not as a stranger.
 
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Job 33 verses 27b-28 ~ I have sinned and perverted what was right; yet I did not get what I deserved. He redeemed my soul from going down to the Pit, and I will live to see the Light. :)
 
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Magenta said:
You did not say you were going away. Some people distort things that are said beyond recognition.

That happens here a lot. Then they want us to trust their interpretations of Scripture. LOL
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Well..... How do you take it?


Cameron143 said:
The only waste of time was entering into a discussion with you where the outcome was already known. I should have known better. Grace and peace.
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