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Well, a new pope has been chosen. A big surprise - he's from America! And the whole world is making such a big deal out of it.


Why Robert Francis Prevost Chose To Be Called Pope Leo XIV



I put this in the conspiracy section because we're so near the end times. So what do you guys think? Could he be the False Prophet?


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2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:
Well, a new pope has been chosen. A big surprise - he's from America! And the whole world is making such a big deal out of it.


Why Robert Francis Prevost Chose To Be Called Pope Leo XIV



I put this in the conspiracy section because we're so near the end times. So what do you guys think? Could he be the False Prophet?


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The Pope is the head of an organisation that is pseudo Christian. It has so many false doctrines that disqualify it as "the church". There are born again Catholics, so it not impossible to be saved and be Catholic. The organisation itself is the problem.
 
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2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:
Well, a new pope has been chosen. A big surprise - he's from America! And the whole world is making such a big deal out of it.


Why Robert Francis Prevost Chose To Be Called Pope Leo XIV



I put this in the conspiracy section because we're so near the end times. So what do you guys think? Could he be the False Prophet?


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I found this

A New Pope is from USA | prophecy fulfilled |God's Word never fails || Rev. William Marrion Branham


William Marrion Branham (April 6, 1909 – December 24, 1965) was an American Christian minister and faith healer who initiated the post-World War II healing revival, and claimed to be a prophet with the anointing of Elijah, who had come to prelude Christ's second coming; some of his followers have been labeled a "doomsday cult".[1][2][3] He is credited as "a principal architect of restorationist thought" for charismatics by some Christian historians,[4] and has been called the "leading individual in the Second Wave of Pentecostalism."[5] He made a lasting influence on televangelism and the modern charismatic movement,[6] and his "stage presence remains a legend unparalleled in the history of the Charismatic movement".[7] At the time they were held, Branham's inter-denominational meetings were the largest religious meetings ever held in some American cities. Branham was the first American deliverance minister to successfully campaign in Europe; his ministry reached global audiences with major campaigns held in North America, Europe, Africa, and India.

Branham claimed that he had received an angelic visitation on May 7, 1946, commissioning his worldwide ministry and launching his campaigning career in mid-1946. His fame rapidly spread as crowds were drawn to his stories of angelic visitations and reports of miracles happening at his meetings. His ministry spawned many emulators and set in motion the broader healing revival that later became the modern charismatic movement. At the peak of his popularity in the 1950s, Branham was widely adored and "the neo-Pentecostal world believed Branham to be a prophet to their generation".[8] From 1955, Branham's campaigning and popularity began to decline as the Pentecostal churches began to withdraw their support from the healing campaigns for primarily financial reasons. By 1960, Branham transitioned into a teaching ministry.

He is a very controversial figure in church history.
 
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Apparently when this Pope was 6 years old two different women who were neighbors prophesied he would become Pope.

 
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2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:
Well, a new pope has been chosen. A big surprise - he's from America! And the whole world is making such a big deal out of it.


Why Robert Francis Prevost Chose To Be Called Pope Leo XIV



I put this in the conspiracy section because we're so near the end times. So what do you guys think? Could he be the False Prophet?


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I believe he's a false/ fake prophet too.

Same as the Last One Or Worse?<

All of the so called popes (which means Father) were not real father's, but fake fathers which in reference to a spiritual context are forbidden.

"And call No man your father upon the earth for one is your father which is in heaven"
Jesus

They claim to give new revelation, which violates the last sternest curses given by the Lord at the end of the last revelation.

These two things alone make each and every previous poopie a false profit..
 
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Apparently when this Pope was 6 years old two different women who were neighbors prophesied he would become Pope.

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The same thing happened with Netanyahu, a rabbi came by his parents' house when he was young and blessed him this was on I 24 some time ago. Also when he was older, The Rebbe reportedly told Netanyahu he would become Israel’s Prime Minister and implied a messianic role, saying he would be the nation's last leader before the Messiah
 
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I believe he's a false/ fake prophet too.

Same as the Last One Or Worse?<

All of the so called popes (which means Father) were not real father's, but fake fathers which in reference to a spiritual context are forbidden.

"And call No man your father upon the earth for one is your father which is in heaven"
Jesus

They claim to give new revelation, which violates the last sternest curses given by the Lord at the end of the last revelation.

These two things alone make each and every previous poopie a false profit..
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Who knows, he hasn't been pope long, he might change things for the good. It's been said that he's lived a life of poverty, and he's an American.
 
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The Pope is the head of an organisation that is pseudo Christian. It has so many false doctrines that disqualify it as "the church". There are born again Catholics, so it not impossible to be saved and be Catholic. The organisation itself is the problem.
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Protestantism is suffering from an equally problematic false doctrine of the Prosperity Gospel and Doctrine (Christian Mammonism).
 
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Who knows, he hasn't been pope long, he might change things for the good. It's been said that he's lived a life of poverty, and he's an American.
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I was raised Roman Catholic too.
When I got saved, the Lord started teaching me many things about my former denomination.
Eventually I trained to reach Catholics for Christ. On Easter a RC priest attended my service and raised his hand to be saved. After asking a couple questions, I don't think he understood that salvation requires no works/ good deeds/ sacraments to receive. However others got saved and hopefully he will too. Below is an article that might be helpful in understanding Catholicism's popes. It was written by another believer.


"Is the Pope the Vicar of Christ?<"
by Rick Jones​
"The Pope: Vicar of Christ​
Is the pope the vicar (substitute) of Christ on the earth, wielding universal power over the whole church? If you believe the catechism, he is:
"For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered." Pg. 234, #882
"The Roman Pontiff... as supreme pastor and teacher of all the faithful..." Pg. 235, #891​
While the Catholic church elevates the pope to the position of "supreme pastor and teacher of all the faithful," God's Word reveals that someone else already fills that position:
"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." John 14:26
"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth..." John 16:13​
Jesus promised that this infallible teacher would abide with us forever:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" John 14:16​
The pope has clearly assumed a position reserved for the Holy Spirit of God. It is a position no man can fill:
"For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God." 1 Corinthians 2:11​
The Apostle Paul reiterates that the Holy Spirit of God, not a man, is the infallible teacher of all true Christians:
"Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man' s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth..." 1 Corinthians 2:12-13​
Similarities?​
If the pope is Christ' s substitute on earth, there should be many similarities in their lives. Let' s see:
  • While on earth, Jesus never controlled great wealth. The pope controls one of the wealthiest corporations in the world.
  • Jesus dressed like a common man. The pope, on the other hand, is never seen in anything but regal apparel.
  • Jesus lived in simple surroundings, but the pope views opulence at every turn.
  • Jesus tirelessly served the multitudes, while the pope travels the world on his private jet, meeting with world leaders from every nation.
  • Most people eventually rejected and hated Jesus because He told the truth. The pope is worshipped and adored by millions worldwide.
  • The pope gladly welcomes the praise of men, but Jesus directed all worship to the Father, and said of Himself:
    "Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God." Mark 10:18​
Should popes accept the worship of multitudes? Look how "Pope" Peter reacted when Cornelius tried to worship him:
"And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man." Acts 10:25-26​
Pope: head of the church?
The Catechism claims that:
"The Pope enjoys, by divine institution, supreme, full, immediate, and universal power in the care of souls" Pg. 246, #937​
According to God's Word, the pope is not the head of the true church of Jesus Christ. That position is reserved exclusively for the Lord Jesus:
"For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church..." Ephesians 5:23​
Concerning the pope' s title of "Holy Father," Jesus Himself instructed us to:
"...call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." Matthew 23:9​
Yet, the pope not only accepts the title "Father," but "Holy Father" as well, a title reserved for God alone:
"Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy..." Revelation 15:4​
It is not wise to assume a name reserved for God, for He will not share His glory with anyone:
"I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another..." Isaiah 42:8​
More Nagging Questions
Once again, Catholic doctrine and Scriptures could not disagree more. As a result, you must choose sides on each of the following questions:
  • Why didn't God tell us in the Bible that He was sending the pope as the Vicar of Christ?
  • Why does the Bible insist that Jesus is still the head of the church, if He isn't?
  • Why does the Catholic church want the pope to be the final authority instead of Jesus?
  • Why does the Catholic church want the pope to be your teacher instead of the Holy Spirit of God?
Conclusion
Only you can answer these questions for yourself. And only you can decide which side you will believe - Catholic traditions of men... or God's Word?"
 
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HealthAndHappiness said:
I was raised Roman Catholic too.
When I got saved, the Lord started teaching me many things about my former denomination.
Eventually I trained to reach Catholics for Christ. On Easter a RC priest attended my service and raised his hand to be saved. After asking a couple questions, I don't think he understood that salvation requires no works/ good deeds/ sacraments to receive. However others got saved and hopefully he will too. Below is an article that might be helpful in understanding Catholicism's popes. It was written by another believer.


"Is the Pope the Vicar of Christ?<"
by Rick Jones​
​
"The Pope: Vicar of Christ

Is the pope the vicar (substitute) of Christ on the earth, wielding universal power over the whole church? If you believe the catechism, he is:​


"For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered." Pg. 234, #882
"The Roman Pontiff... as supreme pastor and teacher of all the faithful..." Pg. 235, #891​

While the Catholic church elevates the pope to the position of "supreme pastor and teacher of all the faithful," God's Word reveals that someone else already fills that position:​
"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." John 14:26
"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth..." John 16:13​

Jesus promised that this infallible teacher would abide with us forever:​
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" John 14:16​

The pope has clearly assumed a position reserved for the Holy Spirit of God. It is a position no man can fill:​
"For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God." 1 Corinthians 2:11​

The Apostle Paul reiterates that the Holy Spirit of God, not a man, is the infallible teacher of all true Christians:​
"Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man' s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth..." 1 Corinthians 2:12-13​
Similarities?

If the pope is Christ' s substitute on earth, there should be many similarities in their lives. Let' s see:
  • While on earth, Jesus never controlled great wealth. The pope controls one of the wealthiest corporations in the world.
  • Jesus dressed like a common man. The pope, on the other hand, is never seen in anything but regal apparel.
  • Jesus lived in simple surroundings, but the pope views opulence at every turn.
  • Jesus tirelessly served the multitudes, while the pope travels the world on his private jet, meeting with world leaders from every nation.
  • Most people eventually rejected and hated Jesus because He told the truth. The pope is worshipped and adored by millions worldwide.
  • The pope gladly welcomes the praise of men, but Jesus directed all worship to the Father, and said of Himself:
    "Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God." Mark 10:18​
Should popes accept the worship of multitudes? Look how "Pope" Peter reacted when Cornelius tried to worship him:
"And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man." Acts 10:25-26​
Pope: head of the church?
The Catechism claims that:
"The Pope enjoys, by divine institution, supreme, full, immediate, and universal power in the care of souls" Pg. 246, #937​
According to God's Word, the pope is not the head of the true church of Jesus Christ. That position is reserved exclusively for the Lord Jesus:
"For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church..." Ephesians 5:23​
Concerning the pope' s title of "Holy Father," Jesus Himself instructed us to:
"...call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." Matthew 23:9​
Yet, the pope not only accepts the title "Father," but "Holy Father" as well, a title reserved for God alone:
"Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy..." Revelation 15:4​
It is not wise to assume a name reserved for God, for He will not share His glory with anyone:
"I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another..." Isaiah 42:8​
More Nagging Questions
Once again, Catholic doctrine and Scriptures could not disagree more. As a result, you must choose sides on each of the following questions:
  • Why didn't God tell us in the Bible that He was sending the pope as the Vicar of Christ?
  • Why does the Bible insist that Jesus is still the head of the church, if He isn't?
  • Why does the Catholic church want the pope to be the final authority instead of Jesus?
  • Why does the Catholic church want the pope to be your teacher instead of the Holy Spirit of God?
Conclusion
Only you can answer these questions for yourself. And only you can decide which side you will believe - Catholic traditions of men... or God's Word?"
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That is a misnomer, He is not the Stand in or Substitute for Christ, He is Christ's Representative on Earth according to Catholic Teaching.

Also guess who decided the Canon of the Bible? What constitutes our Bible.. The Catholic Church.

Sure Luther and other threw out The intertestment Books like Maccabees, but The Catholic Church was the one who had to sift through the gnostic gospels and True gospels, and throw out the false ones.

I am Protestant, but what the Romanite Church did was major thing for all of us who adhere to Scripture.
 
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That is a misnomer, He is not the Stand in or Substitute for Christ, He is Christ's Representative on Earth according to Catholic Teaching.

Also guess who decided the Canon of the Bible? What constitutes our Bible.. The Catholic Church.

Sure Luther and other threw out The intertestment Books like Maccabees, but The Catholic Church was the one who had to sift through the gnostic gospels and True gospels, and throw out the false ones.

I am Protestant, but what the Romanite Church did was major thing for all of us who adhere to Scripture.
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Rome lends nothing to the dissemination of God's Word to the common man, wo.an and child. Roman hierarchy have always concealed the scriptures throughout their history. That's why the Dark Ages are called the Dark Ages.


 
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I was raised Roman Catholic too.
When I got saved, the Lord started teaching me many things about my former denomination.
Eventually I trained to reach Catholics for Christ. On Easter a RC priest attended my service and raised his hand to be saved. After asking a couple questions, I don't think he understood that salvation requires no works/ good deeds/ sacraments to receive. However others got saved and hopefully he will too. Below is an article that might be helpful in understanding Catholicism's popes. It was written by another believer.


"Is the Pope the Vicar of Christ?<"
by Rick Jones​
​
"The Pope: Vicar of Christ

Is the pope the vicar (substitute) of Christ on the earth, wielding universal power over the whole church? If you believe the catechism, he is:​


"For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered." Pg. 234, #882
"The Roman Pontiff... as supreme pastor and teacher of all the faithful..." Pg. 235, #891​

While the Catholic church elevates the pope to the position of "supreme pastor and teacher of all the faithful," God's Word reveals that someone else already fills that position:​
"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." John 14:26
"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth..." John 16:13​

Jesus promised that this infallible teacher would abide with us forever:​
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" John 14:16​

The pope has clearly assumed a position reserved for the Holy Spirit of God. It is a position no man can fill:​
"For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God." 1 Corinthians 2:11​

The Apostle Paul reiterates that the Holy Spirit of God, not a man, is the infallible teacher of all true Christians:​
"Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man' s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth..." 1 Corinthians 2:12-13​
Similarities?

If the pope is Christ' s substitute on earth, there should be many similarities in their lives. Let' s see:
  • While on earth, Jesus never controlled great wealth. The pope controls one of the wealthiest corporations in the world.
  • Jesus dressed like a common man. The pope, on the other hand, is never seen in anything but regal apparel.
  • Jesus lived in simple surroundings, but the pope views opulence at every turn.
  • Jesus tirelessly served the multitudes, while the pope travels the world on his private jet, meeting with world leaders from every nation.
  • Most people eventually rejected and hated Jesus because He told the truth. The pope is worshipped and adored by millions worldwide.
  • The pope gladly welcomes the praise of men, but Jesus directed all worship to the Father, and said of Himself:
    "Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God." Mark 10:18​
Should popes accept the worship of multitudes? Look how "Pope" Peter reacted when Cornelius tried to worship him:
"And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man." Acts 10:25-26​
Pope: head of the church?
The Catechism claims that:
"The Pope enjoys, by divine institution, supreme, full, immediate, and universal power in the care of souls" Pg. 246, #937​
According to God's Word, the pope is not the head of the true church of Jesus Christ. That position is reserved exclusively for the Lord Jesus:
"For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church..." Ephesians 5:23​
Concerning the pope' s title of "Holy Father," Jesus Himself instructed us to:
"...call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." Matthew 23:9​
Yet, the pope not only accepts the title "Father," but "Holy Father" as well, a title reserved for God alone:
"Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy..." Revelation 15:4​
It is not wise to assume a name reserved for God, for He will not share His glory with anyone:
"I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another..." Isaiah 42:8​
More Nagging Questions
Once again, Catholic doctrine and Scriptures could not disagree more. As a result, you must choose sides on each of the following questions:
  • Why didn't God tell us in the Bible that He was sending the pope as the Vicar of Christ?
  • Why does the Bible insist that Jesus is still the head of the church, if He isn't?
  • Why does the Catholic church want the pope to be the final authority instead of Jesus?
  • Why does the Catholic church want the pope to be your teacher instead of the Holy Spirit of God?
Conclusion
Only you can answer these questions for yourself. And only you can decide which side you will believe - Catholic traditions of men... or God's Word?"
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I'm not catholic, but thanks for the info. There are Christians within the catholic church and as SirSolaScriptura said they weren't always that way. allot of good has come from the catholic church in its beginning and even later on.
 
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I'm not catholic, but thanks for the info. There are Christians within the catholic church and as SirSolaScriptura said they weren't always that way. allot of good has come from the catholic church in its beginning and even later on.
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Sorry for my misunderstanding about your background.
I've certainly met a number of Roman Catholic people who trusted Christ as Savior. None because of the denominational teaching, but after considering the difference and choosing the Lord Jesus Christ.
That said, the RC church does teach truth inasfar as basics such as:

A. Person of Jesus, Son of God and Son of man.
B. Born of a virgin.
C. Trinity.
D. Nature of God
E. They believe in a literal interpretation of the miracles.
F. Essentials of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus

My own Mom was my first Sunday school teacher. She taught me that Noah's Ark was a literal event and I also remember that she said that I should hate the Devil. I hate him more today than ever, so I thank the Lord for my wonderful Mom.

Those truthful teachings makes leading nominal Catholics to Christ easier than some who had no Scriptural background. I even had a former nun friend who got saved.
She attended our Bible studies and was very open to learning the Word.

One big problem is that Rome requires what Jesus did to be an ongoing sacrifice offered by their priests every mass when they go through the rituals of their eucharist.

10By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God
Hebrews 10
 
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I read a few synopses of articles coming out with the news. He chose to be called Leo xiv and was the leader of the order of the Augustinians, founded by St. Augustine in four hundred and some A.D., just going by vague recall of the reading, an order in which Martin Luther had been a member. I'm not picking up any false prophet vibes though. It is my opinion that what we're looking for won't be an someone 'posing' as Christ but actually offering an alternative, that is, an 'instead of' option that is explicitly not Christ but, of course, claiming to be himself, god.
 
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Protestantism is suffering from an equally problematic false doctrine of the Prosperity Gospel and Doctrine (Christian Mammonism).
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Some, not all. There is plenty of false teaching, but it's not the core of most protestant denominations. Catholicism is fundamentally flawed at its roots.
 
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I'm not catholic, but thanks for the info. There are Christians within the catholic church and as SirSolaScriptura said they weren't always that way. allot of good has come from the catholic church in its beginning and even later on.
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I so agree with you! I always try to pray for them, for specific Catholics when God brings them to mind. I've been reading about World War 2 and there were certainly a good number of Christians within the Catholic church that did a lot of good to rescue persecuted groups targeted for extermination or enslavement.

The key thing is to pray that they start turning to Christ alone instead of the myriad of saints and serve Him only. It is quite possible that God may keep them in that religious institution to serve Him somehow like they did during WW2.


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