Husbands can lift a bigger rock than wives can

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As another side note, Sarah called Abraham "lord", not "Lord". There is a huge difference 😉.
In the Greek NT, KURIOS has several nuances. Some uses in the NT are Lord, lord, father, master, Master, owner, Sir.
 
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In the Greek NT, KURIOS has several nuances. Some uses in the NT are Lord, lord, father, master, Master, owner, Sir.
Well now, since Sarah existed in the Old Testament and most likely didn't speak Greek, we'll have to wait until we get to Heaven to ask her exactly what she meant 😊. But I think it's safe to assume she wasn't referring to him as Lord. The would be reserved for The Almighty 😊.

However, if your point is that Sarah submitted to Abraham, you are most definitely correct. She obeyed him even when he asked her to imply that she was not his wife, which got her kidnapped by foreign kings to be added to their harem. Twice. That's some pretty impressive submission right there! 😲
 
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In the Greek NT, KURIOS has several nuances. Some uses in the NT are Lord, lord, father, master, Master, owner, Sir.
Yet another side note..... I occasionally call a man "Sir". Not simply because he is male, and certainly not because he demands it of me. I reserve it for the rare men who earn my respect through their actions. These men are kind, observant, steadfast, and try to use their masculinity to make those around them feel stronger rather than weaker. Such Godly men are rare gems who 100% deserve my respect.
 

Edith

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Have u noticed that no women have replied to this post ?
In our culture, women are very masculine if you ask me. What do you think of Sarah calling Abraham Lord?
EddieM dear if you let go of the differences between woman and man, turn a blind eye the weakness and open up to the strength. You shall feel better and have better relationships.
 

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You know this brings to mind. My cousin while his wife was away had decided he was going to do the house work for a couple of days. He cleaned it the first day and couldn't believe it was messy the very next day! My mom say yep that's what happens. oh goodness I still remember the look on his face. Well he was VERY happy his wife came back. He just couldn't fathom doing what we do every day. Woman of course like progress in work but we are also okay with the same and that's where we differ from men.
It's good for men to become enlightened about how much we do need and actually depend upon our wives that God created to help us. Unfortunately, most men have to lose their wife before learning this valuable lesson.
 

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This comment is probably off-topic but it might fit.

The man was created first and later some material was taken from his body
to construct the woman. In matters related to primogeniture, that makes the
man the senior of the two and she the junior. So then it is impossible for
women to ever be equals with men in the natural sphere of things.

Now had the woman been created directly from the earth's soil like the man
was, then she would've bern a living soul in her own right and on equal footing
with the man. But as it is, the woman was the man's paternal offspring, and
we all know from the Ten Commandments that offspring are not equal to
their parents, viz: the woman wasn't Adam's peer; therefore she was given a
supporting role rather than a co-starring role.
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This comment is probably off-topic but it might fit.

The man was created first and later some material was taken from his body
to construct the woman. In matters related to primogeniture, that makes the
man the senior of the two and she the junior. So then it is impossible for
women to ever be equals with men in the natural sphere of things.


Now had the woman been created directly from the earth's soil like the man
was, then she would've bern a living soul in her own right and on equal footing
with the man. But as it is, the woman was the man's paternal offspring, and
we all know from the Ten Commandments that offspring are not equal to
their parents, viz: the woman wasn't Adam's peer; therefore she was given a
supporting role rather than a co-starring role.
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I dont think thats the main reason our father made us from man. we were made from the rib of man "For no man ever yet hated his own flesh;" Ephesians 5:29
 

Webers.Home

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It's sometimes said that men are from Mars and women are from Venus;
whereas the reality is: everyone is from Mars because we all descend from
a common ancestor. That's very easily substantiated.


Acts 17:26 . . From one man He made every nation of men.

God stopped work on the cosmos after six days because it was all done. The
thing is; He created only one living soul during those six days, and no others.
Not even Eve was a discreet living soul because she was constructed with
material taken from the man.


The conclusion is: all human beings since then are, and have been, extensions
of that one living soul by means of the blessing of fertility whereby all God's
creatures are able to reproduce themselves. Ergo: we are all unique individuals,
but none of us are unique creations because Adam alone holds that distinction.
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Dino246

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This comment is probably off-topic but it might fit.

The man was created first and later some material was taken from his body
to construct the woman. In matters related to primogeniture, that makes the
man the senior of the two and she the junior. So then it is impossible for
women to ever be equals with men in the natural sphere of things.

Now had the woman been created directly from the earth's soil like the man
was, then she would've bern a living soul in her own right and on equal footing
with the man. But as it is, the woman was the man's paternal offspring, and
we all know from the Ten Commandments that offspring are not equal to
their parents, viz: the woman wasn't Adam's peer; therefore she was given a
supporting role rather than a co-starring role.
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Nowhere in Scripture is Adam’s creation prior to Eve’s established as reason for them to be unequal. Your comments are rooted in an English mistranslation of “ezer kenegdo” from Genesis 2. I strongly encourage you to do your homework before embarrassing yourself further.
 

Magenta

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Nowhere in Scripture is Adam’s creation prior to Eve’s established as reason for them to be unequal. Your comments are rooted in an English mistranslation of “ezer kenegdo” from Genesis 2. I strongly encourage you to do your homework before embarrassing yourself further.
This is true and already been posted in this thread... but whether he sees it or not
is uncertain, since any attempt to correct that guy gets you put on his ignore list.
 
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This comment is probably off-topic but it might fit.

The man was created first and later some material was taken from his body
to construct the woman. In matters related to primogeniture, that makes the
man the senior of the two and she the junior. So then it is impossible for
women to ever be equals with men in the natural sphere of things.


Now had the woman been created directly from the earth's soil like the man
was, then she would've bern a living soul in her own right and on equal footing
with the man. But as it is, the woman was the man's paternal offspring, and
we all know from the Ten Commandments that offspring are not equal to
their parents, viz: the woman wasn't Adam's peer; therefore she was given a
supporting role rather than a co-starring role.
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Genesis 2:24
Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
 
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This is true and already been posted in this thread... but whether he sees it or not
is uncertain, since any attempt to correct that guy gets you put on his ignore list.
That would be his exampling the sins of pride and hubris.

You cannot hope to educate those who are unable to receive education where they are weak in scripture.

Besides that being pitiable, the blessing is God does not operate by Webber's many false teachings. Webber must do.

In which case,I recommend prayers for his wife.
 
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That would be his exampling the sins of pride and hubris.

You cannot hope to educate those who are unable to receive education where they are weak in scripture.

Besides that being pitiable, the blessing is God does not operate by Webber's many false teachings. Webber must do.

In which case,I recommend prayers for his wife.
:ROFL: I joined his ignore list!

He PM'd me to let me know after correcting my intentional misspelling of his name. And accusing me of gossip.

Someone who plays God thinking he knows who is in Hell is deeply lost in their own ego.
 

tourist

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This comment is probably off-topic but it might fit.

The man was created first and later some material was taken from his body
to construct the woman. In matters related to primogeniture, that makes the
man the senior of the two and she the junior. So then it is impossible for
women to ever be equals with men in the natural sphere of things.


Now had the woman been created directly from the earth's soil like the man
was, then she would've bern a living soul in her own right and on equal footing
with the man. But as it is, the woman was the man's paternal offspring, and
we all know from the Ten Commandments that offspring are not equal to
their parents, viz: the woman wasn't Adam's peer; therefore she was given a
supporting role rather than a co-starring role.
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It seems to me that Eve was definitely the peer of Adam as she was made out of his (human) kind.

Can't see at all how Eve could be considered the offspring of Adam. I'm no expert on biology but believe that it takes the sperm of a man and the egg of a woman to create a human baby. Maybe Adam called Eve "Baby". That would be sort of a romantic intimate thing to say to her for sure.

Your Ten Commandment reference to this point of contention is bizarre. Adam most definitely was not the parent of Eve. If so, then Adam married his daughter. I'm no bible scholar but I believe that such an act would constitute as being an abomination in the eyes of the Lord.