7 heads of the beast of Revelation

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Rondonmon

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Either the beast is dead before being burned or the beast is alive before being burned. Which is correct?

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
No EWQ 1938 I explained this unto you long ago. There is no contradiction, and it is the same man and his false prophet.

So, what we see in Dan. 7 shows this man is indeed killed. But in Rev. 19 we are shown what happens to this man AFTER he has been killed in the flesh, his Spirit Man which would usually rest IN SLEEP like the other Wicked Tares who will be judged in 1000 years, at the Second Resurrection. While they are allowed to rest and the be judged at a later date, THIS EVIL MAN will be taken alive (in the Spiritual Realm we all NEVER DIE !! We rest until Judgment) and cast straight into hellfire. He will be killed because God says ALL MEN must die then be judged.
 

Rondonmon

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Based on Dan. 7:24, you said that the little horn (antichrist) is diverse from the first (Rome = beast). But I understand it to mean that the little horn is diverse from the 10 horns (not a different beast). The word "first" seems to be plural in Aramaic.
The word used is a Chaldean word

#6933 קַדְמָי qadmay (Aramaic) {kad-mah'-ee}

from a root corresponding to H6923; TWOT - 2966c; adj
Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)

1) former, first
1a) first
1b) former
Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)

(Chaldee); from a root corresponding to H6923; first:—first.
—Strong's
(Hebrew & Chaldee Dictionary of the Old Testament)

The 10 = Completion, not 10, and the horns represent powers, thus the E.U. whether it be 8 as in 1958, or 12 or 19 or 27 as it is today, the number 10 Represents the E.U. coming out of the Old Fourth Beasts Head. The Little Horn arises in/amidst the 10 = he's born in the E.U.

Of course the little horn is a beast, Dan. 7:11 says The Beast is killed his BODY DETROYED, that is not a Nation.
 

ewq1938

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  • Neither beast is described as having a "human head" in a literal sense.
  • But the second beast (earth beast) is human-like in its behavior and speech, possibly personified as a deceptive individual or false prophet.
  • This symbolic imagery may give the impression of a human element, but the text does not say it has one human head.
The FP is a man, who is alive, so he has a head.
 

ewq1938

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No one or "thing" is actually dead when it gets cast into the lake of fire. When it comes to death there is no death only life. Heaven or the lake of fire.

Incorrect. The LOF is the second death. There is no life there.
 
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Incorrect. The LOF is the second death. There is no life there.
Your soul is alive while it is burning. There is physical death #1 and your souls separation from God #2 but your soul is alive while it is burning.
 
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In Daniel 7, the little horn is a horn on a beast not a beast itself.
No, he's a Beast (Little = Small & Horn = Political Power) he arises amidst the 10 = Complete Europe Reunited. Then the 10 give there power unto him (Rev. 17:12) for ONE HOUR (42 months). Then you totally leave out both passages & the verses that show there is a 5th Beast in Daniel 7.

11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake(He is a MAN who SPEAKS): I beheld even till the beast was slain(he is a MAN), and his body destroyed(he's a MAN), and given to the burning flame(He is CAST INTO HELLFIRE, country do not get cast into hell).



23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth(being spoken about meaning only the Mediteranean Sea Region as every Beast is from that area ONLY, common sense tells us there were more than FOUR KINGDOMS on the earth, these are only Kingdoms who subdue and subjugate Israel), and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: (10 = the Complete E.U. come together, in the end, in Rome's stead) and another shall rise after them(the Little Horn Power or AC); and he shall be diverse from the first(Rome who had the HEAD WOUND), and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws {Norms & Culture as Antiochus did} and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time(HE rules for 1260 days).
 

ewq1938

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Nope. The horns of beast are not also beasts. That's not how symbiology works. The beast is a kingdom, and within that kingdom are ten horns which are kings, and the little horn is an 11th horn on the one beast.
 

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Your soul is alive while it is burning. There is physical death #1 and your souls separation from God #2 but your soul is alive while it is burning.
That removes the concept of the second death so it is not correct. If there is no death in death then it is not death. The soul does not continue in life when it is judged to experience the second death.

Mat_10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell

Men cannot kill the soul but God can, and will in the LOF.

Psalms 37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.


Perishing and being burned and being consumed into smoke means they are annihilated.
 
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So if I understand you right there is no suffering in the lake of fire? Just a pile of dead lifeless souls.
 

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The False Prophet seems to fit the description connected to Rome more than the actual Beast\Antichrist.

Revelation shows us that Babylon is the home of Satan, foul evil spirits, wicked birds, etc. And ancient Babylon is within the vicinity of Tyre which Satan is addressed by Ezekiel and Daniel tells us he was able to withstand Gabriel for 21 days before Michael rescued him.
 
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Nope. The horns of beast are not also beasts. That's not how symbiology works. The beast is a kingdom, and within that kingdom are ten horns which are kings, and the little horn is an 11th horn on the one beast.
I have been called unto prophesy 40 years, this is not hard, you make it hard, the Roman Beast received the HEAD WOUND, meaning it went under the Sea (ceased to exist for the rest of the church age) the 10 = The Roman Beast Revived later on as the E.U. and as Rev. 17:12 says they give their power to the Beast or ONE MAN, The Anti-Christ/Little Horn who HEALS THE WOUND by once again conquering Israel.

God is telling you its a continuation 2000 YEARS LATER which makes it a DIFFEENT BEAST in the same general area. That is why the feet are made of IRON & CLAY. Its Old Rome Revived via MANY NATIONS, some weak and some strong AND Clay & Iron do not mix, so unlike the First Roman Beast who used brute power, they will give political power unto one man, and he will use cunning to conquer via peace (He invites Israel to join the E.U. but they have to give up their Nukes and let the E.U protect them, which kicks off the 70th week God is ANGRY they gave His land away in the Agreement). Then when the Asteroid Strikes the New World/USA, he will go forth conquering on the day God's Wrath falls (DOTL). He ONLY Conquers in the old world, the Mediterranean Region is all he conquers just like Rome.

Rome in AD 117 was the only Old World Kingdom that conquered every square inch of the Mediterranean Coastline thus he conquers ALL THE EARTH bein g spoken about via the 7 Heads and 10 Horns or 4 Heads and the Little Horn.

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The E.U. has Agreements now running in 7 year cycles with Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan. Egypt, Libya, Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia. (SEE BELOW) So, when this man Conquers MANY COUNTRIES plus Israel (see Dan. 11:40-43) he will become the Beast over Israel and THE MANY spoken about in Dan. 9:27 and in Dan. 8:25 Thus the HEAD WOUND is Healed as Rev. 13 says. Its the SAME AREA or REGION, the Roman Beast is Revived, under the Auspices of the E.U. who elects ONE MAN to control everything, and the reason HE ALON E is the Beast is no other man ever rules over Israel, Jesus returns and TAKES OVER. So there can be n o Beast Kingdom like all of the others, this the 666 points us to ONE MAN as 6 is the numb er of man, its a clue. This one man Beast dies before he passes his Kingdom on, this like Dan. 7:17 says, all those who first arose were BEAST MEN, they Nations only became The Beast later on.

17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.


E.U. and its Neighborhood Policy Agreement Nations


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Only when the E.U. (Anti-Christ) shown in blue, Conquers those nations shown in Orange will the Beast be Revived or Healed.
 

ewq1938

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So if I understand you right there is no suffering in the lake of fire? Just a pile of dead lifeless souls.

It wouldn't be very good fire of there was a pile of anything there.

Psalms 37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.


Do you disagree with anything written in this verse?
 

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The False Prophet seems to fit the description connected to Rome more than the actual Beast\Antichrist.
The FP is the one we call the antichrist. Rome is no more important in the trib etc than Hawaii or any of the giant floating piles of plastic garbage in the ocean. All countries, all leaders and all religions and denominations will worship the false god.
 
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It wouldn't be very good fire of there was a pile of anything there.

Psalms 37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.


Do you disagree with anything written in this verse?
I dont disagree with anything in the Bible just disagree with people's interpretation of it. Can't torment something forever if it's dead.
 
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The FP is the one we call the antichrist. Rome is no more important in the trib etc than Hawaii or any of the giant floating piles of plastic garbage in the ocean. All countries, all leaders and all religions and denominations will worship the false god.
Satan is seeting up his own trinity. With Satan like the father. The ac like the son and the fp like the holy ghost. Its the fp who gets people to worship the ac. They are not the same.
 

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The FP is the one we call the antichrist. Rome is no more important in the trib etc than Hawaii or any of the giant floating piles of plastic garbage in the ocean. All countries, all leaders and all religions and denominations will worship the false god.
I agree that Rome is not important concerning the end times Prophecies.
 
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Then you should know the little horn is part of a beast, not a beast himself according to Daniel 7. Maybe a better name would be Wrongdonmon :)
I just explained it to you perfectly, like I have other places for years. You just are not ever going to get it.
 

ewq1938

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I dont disagree with anything in the Bible just disagree with people's interpretation of it. Can't torment something forever if it's dead.

You are avoiding the language in that verse though. Is the verse correct about the wicked being consumed away or not? Your version completely disagrees with what the Psalms verse says will happen.