Becomes Trump a dictator?

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No, you are claiming there are people on Christian Chat who identify as MAGA who are making these posts. Please provide a link to one of these posts. Thanks
Most of these people have claimed to support Donald Trump.
 

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Most of these people have claimed to support Donald Trump.
What does that mean? Did they contribute money to his campaign? Did they attend rallies? Did they campaign for him? Do they wear "MAGA" hats and have "MAGA" bumper stickers? Or did they simply exercise their constitutional right to vote for president?

You can't claim they are MAGA simply because they voted for him. Half the people who voted for Biden said that it was really a vote against Trump not for Biden.

If your claim is that the people who voted for Trump now think we would have been better off with Kamala Harris, that is absurd, there hasn't been a single post that would indicate that. Unless you are counting Canadians and people who voted for Kamala Harris no one who voted for Trump is now saying they wish they had voted for Kamala Harris.
 

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Oh I forgot to address this.
Since you’ve been here you’ve been complaining about sticks and stones (red xes). Grow up and become self-aware so you don’t contradict yourself on every sentence.
No matter what you say about me it will never change the absolute

objective truth, Christ Jesus very clearly gave us one plan of salvation, one must be born from above, not a process but a one time event by grace through faith, anything else are the doctrines/ideas of men>>> KoolAid.

But you are free to go to the Bible Discussion Forum to make your Biblical case for theosis.
 

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What does that mean? Did they contribute money to his campaign? Did they attend rallies? Did they campaign for him? Do they wear "MAGA" hats and have "MAGA" bumper stickers? Or did they simply exercise their constitutional right to vote for president?

You can't claim they are MAGA simply because they voted for him. Half the people who voted for Biden said that it was really a vote against Trump not for Biden.

If your claim is that the people who voted for Trump now think we would have been better off with Kamala Harris, that is absurd, there hasn't been a single post that would indicate that. Unless you are counting Canadians and people who voted for Kamala Harris no one who voted for Trump is now saying they wish they had voted for Kamala Harris.
This post above is proof MAGA is self-destructing.
 

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This post above is proof MAGA is self-destructing.
Wow, because I thought it proved that people with TDS claim everyone is "MAGA" without the faintest clue what that means.

If you feel you are right simply open a new thread with a poll, if you voted for Trump in 2024 do you now regret that? I suspect you will get 100% saying no.
 

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No matter what you say about me it will never change the absolute

objective truth, Christ Jesus very clearly gave us one plan of salvation, one must be born from above, not a process but a one time event by grace through faith, anything else are the doctrines/ideas of men>>> KoolAid.

But you are free to go to the Bible Discussion Forum to make your Biblical case for theosis.
No matter what the delusional tv stations tell you, the absolute truth is that this topic (plus the free will topic) is a debate that goes on for centuries and you, a conspiracist woman on the internet does not have the answer today.

This is the absolute truth.

If you ever grow up, you might even understand that a sign of growth is tolerance and respect for your fellow believers, not clueless judgment born of ignorance and pride.

And if you want to make your case that somehow you’re the anointed one, go heal a hopeless child dying from cancer at St Jude’s hospital and then I’ll take you more seriously and follow you.

Until then, grow up.
 

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No matter what the delusional tv stations tell you, the absolute truth is that this topic (plus the free will topic) is a debate that goes on for centuries and you, a conspiracist woman on the internet does not have the answer today.

This is the absolute truth.

If you ever grow up, you might even understand that a sign of growth is tolerance and respect for your fellow believers, not clueless judgment born of ignorance and pride.

And if you want to make your case that somehow you’re the anointed one, go heal a hopeless child dying from cancer at St Jude’s hospital and then I’ll take you more seriously and follow you.

Until then, grow up.
Well there are many Gospel deniers in the world so there is that.
The "religious" are usually right up there.
 

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Well there are many Gospel deniers in the world so there is that.
The "religious" are usually right up there.
All you have is empty words born out of ignorance.
If you don't like the current conditions, go make war with all the denominations in existence.
Or, go make peace through forgiveness ... which is Biblical.
 

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All you have is empty words born out of ignorance.
If you don't like the current conditions, go make war with all the denominations in existence.
Or, go make peace through forgiveness ... which is Biblical.
You must be "born from above" to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Jesus says so.
 

Eli1

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You must be "born from above" to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Jesus says so.
Take a line from the Bible and build a church around it.
That's how denominations are born.

Jesus also said "Peter, on you i will build my church".
Look where the Catholics are with that now.

Learn to read spiritual matters as part of a whole essence, not as a legalist.
 

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Take a line from the Bible and build a church around it.
That's how denominations are born.

Jesus also said "Peter, on you i will build my church".
Look where the Catholics are with that now.

Learn to read spiritual matters as part of a whole essence, not as a legalist.
All throughout scripture, we are told that one act of faith in the finished work of Christ Jesus on our behalf is what saves.

There is no legalism in truth, and the truth is you can never be good enough and no sacrament can save you.

Catholicism borders on being a cult with many non scriptural teachings.
 

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All throughout scripture, we are told that one act of faith in the finished work of Christ Jesus on our behalf is what saves.
No, this is the Protestant understanding which opens a can of worms because when you read the Bible, one does not make one-time-event judgments of our final eternal destination.
We are required to trust, have faith and obey in the sacrifice of Christ. These are called “Mysteries of God” for which we have no technical understanding, such as “what is a spiritual body”.
We don’t know what a spiritual body is and how it works and what mechanics are involved. We know it happened and that’s all we need to know. Anything else, is a can of worms to question.
I don’t question. I trust. When you question these profound questions, you become a legalist.

There is no legalism in truth, and the truth is you can never be good enough and no sacrament can save you.
Zero sacraments save you, this is also another truth based on Theosis. Zero!
Judgment is left up to God as it says in the Bible, not to feeble humans like me and you who have no capacity to understand the mind of the Almighty Creator who we call The Holy Trinity.
We just trust. We don't judge who goes where, because we can't!


Catholicism borders on being a cult with many non scriptural teachings.
Your lack of growth based on legalism produces this statement which is also affected by your childish nature who believes in conspiracy theories.
 

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If that's the case, that should be done away with. An agreement from nearly 80 years ago should not stll be in effect; especially one that benefits Russia.
I'll have to do some research.

Also, why are these countries buying oil from the Russia? Pretty sure that's an unforced error.
Me and you can agree on it needing to be over with but in post #3629 I gave you is the final settlement signed by the USSR(Russia) the US,England(UK) and France which is 35 years ago and includes NATO not spreading farther east(not one inch statement). So Russia(Putin) is the hold up on these older agreements expiring and nations like Germany rearming. Then again if we put ourselves in a Russians shoes just 80 years ago Germany's armies were in Russia and millions were dying.

So to Russia we can say these agreements should expire but to them they know first hand just how it looks when Germany gets armed to the kilter and they do not want them to and will attack them if they see them doing so. This is why I keep asking @wolfwint if Germany is conscripting solders or passing finance bills to build up it's military. He keeps saying "no" because he grew up in Germany where this was not permitted and so he knows this is the terms Germany is under post ww2 and after Germany's reunification(1990-91). We attack him(Germany) as if they just want a free meal but he knows Germany cannot under the agreements. He keeps saying "Trump is no trust" but I think he's trying to explain that the US,France,USSR and the UK determined the US,France and the UK were going to enforce this but Trump is now breaking the 1990 agreement and saying their on their own. We should should put ourselves in a Germans shoes who lived in a nation who was told their whole life they could "not rearm their military".

If you look back to 1990 to when the USSR was in(over) East Berlin it makes perfect sense that Russia would be where they got their oil and that this infrastructure was already sitting their in 1990 when the USSR gave control of East Berlin back to Germany and the West. I'm not sure how old everyone is in the forum but in the 1990's after the cold war ended the infrastructure of both the East and West led to one another and so all they needed to do on both sides was to extend trade from those borders of control and the East was connected with the West. In those days we were both relieved the Cold War had ended and both sides enjoyed trade and friendship at first. Now we fast forward to 2025 and relations are not as in the 1990's between the East and West. Your very well correct to question why they buy their oil from Russia and it's because we have gone from Allies to foes, then Allies to foes again across 80 years. So they were not forced into buying oil from Russia but rather both side saw it once as good relations and business to work with one another. Who you buy oil from can change depending on relations and so at some point they might end this if the peace deals fall apart. Sorry for the long reply,lol
 

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Me and you can agree on it needing to be over with but in post #3629 I gave you is the final settlement signed by the USSR(Russia) the US,England(UK) and France which is 35 years ago and includes NATO not spreading farther east(not one inch statement). So Russia(Putin) is the hold up on these older agreements expiring and nations like Germany rearming. Then again if we put ourselves in a Russians shoes just 80 years ago Germany's armies were in Russia and millions were dying.

So to Russia we can say these agreements should expire but to them they know first hand just how it looks when Germany gets armed to the kilter and they do not want them to and will attack them if they see them doing so. This is why I keep asking @wolfwint if Germany is conscripting solders or passing finance bills to build up it's military. He keeps saying "no" because he grew up in Germany where this was not permitted and so he knows this is the terms Germany is under post ww2 and after Germany's reunification(1990-91). We attack him(Germany) as if they just want a free meal but he knows Germany cannot under the agreements. He keeps saying "Trump is no trust" but I think he's trying to explain that the US,France,USSR and the UK determined the US,France and the UK were going to enforce this but Trump is now breaking the 1990 agreement and saying their on their own. We should should put ourselves in a Germans shoes who lived in a nation who was told their whole life they could "not rearm their military".

If you look back to 1990 to when the USSR was in(over) East Berlin it makes perfect sense that Russia would be where they got their oil and that this infrastructure was already sitting their in 1990 when the USSR gave control of East Berlin back to Germany and the West. I'm not sure how old everyone is in the forum but in the 1990's after the cold war ended the infrastructure of both the East and West led to one another and so all they needed to do on both sides was to extend trade from those borders of control and the East was connected with the West. In those days we were both relieved the Cold War had ended and both sides enjoyed trade and friendship at first. Now we fast forward to 2025 and relations are not as in the 1990's between the East and West. Your very well correct to question why they buy their oil from Russia and it's because we have gone from Allies to foes, then Allies to foes again across 80 years. So they were not forced into buying oil from Russia but rather both side saw it once as good relations and business to work with one another. Who you buy oil from can change depending on relations and so at some point they might end this if the peace deals fall apart. Sorry for the long reply,lol
If Europe bought their energy from America there would be no trade imbalance. I honestly believe this is what Trump is going for with Europe. But buying Russian oil when they are waging war in Europe is just stupid. They are financing both sides of the war.

I recognize that were a Democrat to get back into the White House they might cut off the energy exports and know this causes trepidation in Europe.
 

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Me and you can agree on it needing to be over with but in post #3629 I gave you is the final settlement signed by the USSR(Russia) the US,England(UK) and France which is 35 years ago and includes NATO not spreading farther east(not one inch statement). So Russia(Putin) is the hold up on these older agreements expiring and nations like Germany rearming. Then again if we put ourselves in a Russians shoes just 80 years ago Germany's armies were in Russia and millions were dying.

So to Russia we can say these agreements should expire but to them they know first hand just how it looks when Germany gets armed to the kilter and they do not want them to and will attack them if they see them doing so. This is why I keep asking @wolfwint if Germany is conscripting solders or passing finance bills to build up it's military. He keeps saying "no" because he grew up in Germany where this was not permitted and so he knows this is the terms Germany is under post ww2 and after Germany's reunification(1990-91). We attack him(Germany) as if they just want a free meal but he knows Germany cannot under the agreements. He keeps saying "Trump is no trust" but I think he's trying to explain that the US,France,USSR and the UK determined the US,France and the UK were going to enforce this but Trump is now breaking the 1990 agreement and saying their on their own. We should should put ourselves in a Germans shoes who lived in a nation who was told their whole life they could "not rearm their military".

If you look back to 1990 to when the USSR was in(over) East Berlin it makes perfect sense that Russia would be where they got their oil and that this infrastructure was already sitting their in 1990 when the USSR gave control of East Berlin back to Germany and the West. I'm not sure how old everyone is in the forum but in the 1990's after the cold war ended the infrastructure of both the East and West led to one another and so all they needed to do on both sides was to extend trade from those borders of control and the East was connected with the West. In those days we were both relieved the Cold War had ended and both sides enjoyed trade and friendship at first. Now we fast forward to 2025 and relations are not as in the 1990's between the East and West. Your very well correct to question why they buy their oil from Russia and it's because we have gone from Allies to foes, then Allies to foes again across 80 years. So they were not forced into buying oil from Russia but rather both side saw it once as good relations and business to work with one another. Who you buy oil from can change depending on relations and so at some point they might end this if the peace deals fall apart. Sorry for the long reply,lol
Thats the point. The West thought that it is possible to live in peace with russia through trade and good relations. To late the West realized that this was wrong. To stop trade with russia was and is in the practice not do easy.
And now to see that Trump changes what decades was normal scars the europeans.
 

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Thats the point. The West thought that it is possible to live in peace with russia through trade and good relations. To late the West realized that this was wrong. To stop trade with russia was and is in the practice not do easy.
And now to see that Trump changes what decades was normal scars the europeans.
What @Squigglylines said is a good analysis and not knowing the nature of Russian mentalities is also something that requires a lot of interaction with them. We (in Albania) had a lot of interactions with them, during the cold war mind you, where both sides were communists and we broke relations with them, because we did not trust them.

However, the woke mentality that has transformed your country into a nation where an illegal immigrant with a knife in your house has more rights that you as an owner (this is what a German guy in Berlin told me) is also the second part of your problem.
So, strive for balance, be grateful to bigger nations protecting you and put God first. Not saying, you are not doing those things, but that's where one arrives when it sees all this vanity and dejavus of history.
 

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