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HopeinHim98

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This morning my sister and I were taking a walk and suddenly I saw a copperhead on the side of the road! I grabbed my sis and kinda screamed. I thought it was alive but upon further inspection we saw just its head was run over and it was dead. First snake of the season that I've seen!
 
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I had saved up some money so I could afford to take a brother and two friends on a backpacking trip. My brother had been backpacking, my two friends had not. We arrived at the campground in Sequoia Nat'l Park from where we would find the trailhead the next day. One of the friends insisted on keeping his backpack near his sleeping bag. It wasn't cloudy so we were sleeping under the stars. In the middle of the night I woke up with 3 individuals on top of me. They were pointing at a bear who was having his/her way with that backpack. I got up, pulled my pants on and put on my boots and proceeded to shoosh the bear away. I got increasingly aggressive as there was no way I was gonna let that bear stop our backpack trip. The bear finally started fleeing, but took the whole backpack with it. I ran after the bear making all kinds of noise. The bear finally dropped the loot after about a third of a mile, all except for one meal four 4 that it had possession of, and skedaddled. I brought back the almost full backpack and we put it in the vehicle... The two friends were afraid to start the backpacking trip after that but I didn't give them a choice.

That's quite a camping experience you were fortunate to be able to talk about. I picture those trees when reading about Hiram providing the trees for Solomon's temple and palace. That must've been a dream come true.
 

Lynx

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This morning my sister and I were taking a walk and suddenly I saw a copperhead on the side of the road! I grabbed my sis and kinda screamed. I thought it was alive but upon further inspection we saw just its head was run over and it was dead. First snake of the season that I've seen!
Good. The only good snake is a pair of boots.
 
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This morning my sister and I were taking a walk and suddenly I saw a copperhead on the side of the road! I grabbed my sis and kinda screamed. I thought it was alive but upon further inspection we saw just its head was run over and it was dead. First snake of the season that I've seen!

Was this near home ?
Do you live in a rural area where you might see these?
 

Mem

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I was sitting on my 'porch' (which was basically just my doorstep) among my impatiens (also known as 'touch-me-nots') when I saw a very strange looking flying animal, that I categorize of the bug genus. It had a nose?beak?somethingsomething? that looked like the back of an impatiens blossom (I see this is called a 'spur' according to an article titled "A flower tail") and it inserted it one of the blossoms, to draw out its nectar, I presume. It wasn't a hummingbird but I might call it a hummingbirdbug because its wing movement brought hummingbirds to mind. Or, I might call it a beebug because it had a fuzzy 'chest' like a bee. Or, I might call it a lobsterbug, because it's tail was strikingly similar to a lobster except it was irredescent like a jewel scarab... But how do I even begin looking up what this insect might be called? I've searched it since but have yet to come to any answers. But it looked like something Alice might find in Wonderland.

And you can guess what comes up when I attempt to research a "giant eagle' to find out what I saw another time. During a weekly community gathering (a euphemism for 'bingo') that met at a catholic highschool cafeteria while the caller was engaging the rest of my buddies, I excused myself and went outside to enjoy a bit of solitude in the courtyard where this 'giant eagle' alit on the otherside of the courtyard beneath an oak tree. It had to know I was there, as it held its head in profile toward me (but I couldn't tell if it was giving me the side-eye or just striking a pose for me :unsure:...it did manage a very regal look tho, just standing there). But I could tell that it was 'giant' because it was standing beside the tree that I could conveniently use as a comparative measure. I remember thinking, "wow, that bird is big enough to saddle" but, again, I've yet to retrieve any successful search results as to exactly what type of bird it was. But I can't watch the eagle's coming to retrieve Samwise and Frodo without thinking of it (but it wasn't quite as big as that big, but it did stand as tall as the trunk of the oak).
 
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I was sitting on my 'porch' (which was basically just my doorstep) among my impatiens (also known as 'touch-me-nots') when I saw a very strange looking flying animal, that I categorize of the bug genus. It had a nose?beak?somethingsomething? that looked like the back of an impatiens blossom (I see this is called a 'spur' according to an article titled "A flower tail") and it inserted it one of the blossoms, to draw out its nectar, I presume. It wasn't a hummingbird but I might call it a hummingbirdbug because its wing movement brought hummingbirds to mind. Or, I might call it a beebug because it had a fuzzy 'chest' like a bee. Or, I might call it a lobsterbug, because it's tail was strikingly similar to a lobster except it was irredescent like a jewel scarab... But how do I even begin looking up what this insect might be called? I've searched it since but have yet to come to any answers. But it looked like something Alice might find in Wonderland.

And you can guess what comes up when I attempt to research a "giant eagle' to find out what I saw another time. During a weekly community gathering (a euphemism for 'bingo') that met at a catholic highschool cafeteria while the caller was engaging the rest of my buddies, I excused myself and went outside to enjoy a bit of solitude in the courtyard where this 'giant eagle' alit on the otherside of the courtyard beneath an oak tree. It had to know I was there, as it held its head in profile toward me (but I couldn't tell if it was giving me the side-eye or just striking a pose for me :unsure:...it did manage a very regal look tho, just standing there). But I could tell that it was 'giant' because it was standing beside the tree that I could conveniently use as a comparative measure. I remember thinking, "wow, that bird is big enough to saddle" but, again, I've yet to retrieve any successful search results as to exactly what type of bird it was. But I can't watch the eagle's coming to retrieve Samwise and Frodo without thinking of it (but it wasn't quite as big as that big, but it did stand as tall as the trunk of the oak).
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Did the creature in your first description look like this?
I was also surprised and excited to see these daytime moths the first time.

 

Mem

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Did the creature in your first description look like this?
I was also surprised and excited to see these daytime moths the first time.

Yes, that's it exactly! I saw it over 35 years ago and haven't seen one since, but my mother told me about my nephew spotting one last summer. I suspect that adding impatiens to her landscaping must have attracted it, but I asked what flower it was found at but can't remember how I posed the question exactly nor what she answered. She doesn't have any of the flowers counted down on the video though. This reminds me, as the new season is approaching, I attracted saw that I attracted my first hummingbird last summer. I'd been putting out feeders with no results up to that point and gave it up for a hopeless endeavor because I supposed my home was too busy an environment for hummingbirds. It flew up beside me as I was watering my impatiens and, whether I turned my head to fast to look at it or it was a nearsighted hummingbird that realized he didn't like impatiens, idk, but to my chagrin, it zipped away. However, my hope is renewed nonetheless, and I may possibly pick up a hummingbird bush this time around and place it in that spot... And purple verbenas (if I can find purple ones, I do always pick out at least a couple verbenas though) for the hummingbird moth! :love:
 

Mem

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Speaking of the butterfly bush, the one of the most horrifying animal encounters I've ever experienced comes to mind, one perfectly fitting to the title in similar regard to bunny rabbits.
I was in grade school, on summer vacation, and I was outside in the yard with my bestie when a butterfly approached and fancied herself to dance around my head, which perfectly delighted me. I fancied my own notion that this must be because I must be a descendant of Snow White's lineage so I held out my hand for it, and was absolutely astonished when it saw fit to settle into the palm of my hand. But, just as I was saying, "Ohh, how sweet that..." but I stopped abruptly of my attempt to dialogue with it when I saw a tongue emerging out of its mouth, continue to stretch out until it reached contact with my palm and eventually curl at the tip to accommodate the entire length of it. I gasped and shrieked, "Uuugh!!" and reflexively dashed it to the concrete sidewalk...:oops:
I still feel terrible about that.
 
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Yes it was maybe a half mile from our house. And yes it's rural. I am so terrified of snakes! In August we often see quite a few rattlesnakes dead on the road.
 
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edit: rattle snake is on the bottom.

I was a photographer for motorcycle racers for about 3 years here in Florida. I went bust as far as turning a
profit so I stopped. This left me with an addiction to adrenaline so I started hunting snakes -especially venomous -
as a release. Below is a pygmy rattlesnake photographed in a state park. I was in no danger as I was about 15 feet
away with a 400mm lens.

If memory serves me well, this is a black racer. Just a grab shot Didn't have time to change camera settings for that light.
Also photographed in a state park.

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Just an fyi for ya'll, even nonvenomous snake can have teeth that can cause a bad infection.
Best to just leave them alone and let them do their thing catching mice and such. View attachment 275036

@oldman -- It's a shame that publications like National Geographic didn't snap your work right up. These pictures are simply phenomenal.

I had originally looked at them on my phone and they were stunning; I'm looking at them now on my laptop and they are breath-taking. Literally. You really feel for that poor frog (even though I don't like frogs!) but I've always kind of liked captures of predator/prey like this because it's a stark reminder of how it won't be like this in heaven (praise God.)

That second photo has me captivated (I've always like reptiles,) but puts chills down my spine at the same time. I would NOT want to mess with this guy!!

And yet he's so fascinating at the same time. I look forward to hearing God explain to us someday what He was thinking when He designed such creatures.

THANK YOU for sharing these AMAZING photographs and please feel free to share more if you would like.

I have enjoyed these immensely!!!
 
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Yes it was maybe a half mile from our house. And yes it's rural. I am so terrified of snakes! In August we often see quite a few rattlesnakes dead on the road.
It sounds like your home is in/ near their habitat. Would you like my professional opinion for mitigating the venomous snake risks?
 
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@oldman -- It's a shame that publications like National Geographic didn't snap your work right up. These pictures are simply phenomenal.

I had originally looked at them on my phone and they were stunning; I'm looking at them now on my laptop and they are breath-taking. Literally. You really feel for that poor frog (even though I don't like frogs!) but I've always kind of liked captures of predator/prey like this because it's a stark reminder of how it won't be like this in heaven (praise God.)

That second photo has me captivated (I've always like reptiles,) but puts chills down my spine at the same time. I would NOT want to mess with this guy!!

And yet he's so fascinating at the same time. I look forward to hearing God explain to us someday what He was thinking when He designed such creatures.

THANK YOU for sharing these AMAZING photographs and please feel free to share more if you would like.

I have enjoyed these immensely!!!
thank you and will do
 
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Your Dad is a farmer and likely knows all about this and has it under control. I wouldn't worry about the strange critters like the one that just startled you and your sister. It's easier said than done though.

Knowing something about them makes it possible to greatly lessen the chances of you ever seeing them around the house.

State extension agents called me in to teach farmers and others about pest control, etc. Instead of going into a class on this I'll just give a short outline that might help alleviate anxiety and help you feel safer. Some of these you probably already know.

1. Mornings and evenings are when you are most likely to see snakes on the roads. They like to warm up and regulate their temperature before becoming active. Just keep your eyes open and look forward instead of down in front of your feet when on trails or walks. They will usually be seen in sunny areas or openings in the woods, especially around clearings and bolder fields.

2. Don't try to kill them. That increases the likelihood of getting bitten as they become defensive. If you see one, freeze. Remain still. Often they will crawl away when they calm down. Many varieties vibrate their tails besides rattle snakes. That means they are frightened. When they feel frightened, they rattle their tails. Sometimes even harmless snakes sound like a rattler in dry leaves. They don't want to eat you. You are a giant monster to them. They don't want to be stepped on. If you must move, do so slowly. Once you have a visual, just remain still until they are calm, then back away.

3. I'm going from memory. Forgive me if I forgot, but I think you said you were in Tennessee. If that's the case, from memory, your state has Timber Rattlers, Pygmy Rattlesnakes, Southern Copperheads, Water Moccasins. Those are your venomous snakes. Can you think of any others?
Get on some web sites to see pictures of them from different angles, side, above, etc.
Take special mental notes of their triangular head shapes, abrupt change in diameter at the necks. Don't worry about the eye pupils. You probably won't be close enough to see that detail. Look at pattern. Memorize them and review with videos and pics once in a while. This would be good to teach your little brothers and sisters too. You could even make worksheets with pictures of each and the potions of them. Let them write down the answers.

4. Your biggest exterminators are the ones the Lord already made.
@Old Man already posted a very good photo of a Black Racer. They also eat small venomous snakes. The best are the Rat Snakes. I'm not sure which variety are in your area. There are Black Rat snakes up here. Other regions they are grey or yellow. There are corn snakes too. Milk Snakes are smaller but similar in appearance. Then there are King Snakes. These are all good to have on your property. They will eat copperheads and rattlers better than most anything else. They are like little boa constrictors that wrap their prey and once the rattlesnake is dead, eat it whole. This goes for all I mentioned. You might be fortunate enough to have bull snakes that far south. Those are good hunters too.

The fact is if you have neighbors who kill all snakes, and have the attitude that the only good snake is a dead snake; they will assure that you will have venomous varieties in the area intrude into yours. You will also have rodents.

5. If there is a food source, they will come. They like shelter and they like mice/ rodents. Wood piles and especially sheets of metal on the ground are the areas around homes they are attracted to. Times I traveled south, I would sometimes check under metal roofs that blew off or collapsed in abandoned neighborhoods.
They warm up under them, get shelter from sun and rain as well as find moles and mice there.

6. Wherever you have mice, you will eventually find snakes. I welcome Black "Rat" Snakes. They keep the field mouse population down out on the back 50. I seal off the crevices under siding and above the foundation but when the weather gets cold, they travel to look for shelter. I used to have a harmless black snake I rescued from the road. He stayed in the Yard and was very friendly. I never had a rodent problem until the meter reader went out of his way to kill my semi wild pet that was sleeping next to my porch at the time.

7.. I'll wrap it up unless you have any questions. Then I'll answer it tomorrow. What can you and your siblings do to help prevent potentially dangerous venomous snakes from getting into your living, work and play areas?

A. Teach them how to identify all snakes in your area. Test them on it periodically. I would do that since you are in a venomous snake habitat.
Teach them to leave them alone. Rattlers especially are known to travel long distances and are probably just passing through on its way out.
If they leave them alone, they will leave you alone. If you have God's natural exterminators around, the Rattler won't be there long.

B. Welcome any non venomous snakes as friends of the family. It sounds funny, but they can't do any damage. They are there because you have rodents that need to be eaten. Rodents spread disease and damage food. Once they are gone, the snake(s) will move onto better hunting grounds. Snakes are better than the exterminators that spray toxic poisons everywhere and harm health. I used to attend a church that had a very big preacher who was terrified of the harmless snakes at the edge of the wooded area we were at. I offered to get rid of the mice that came into the back classrooms and the snakes by sealing entrance ways, setting traps behind the building, etc.
He refused my free service, but instead hired exterminators to spray poison monthly. We always knew when because a bunch of us were coughing and feeling unwell after they did.

I can't forget two more.
C. Poultry....If you raise chickens or livestock, their feed will attract mice. You already knew that, but others are going to read this. Maybe they didn't.

D. My Lil Fluffer just walked over to me to remind me to tell you about her. She said, "What about me??"
If I find a snake, I'll eat em up!"
Yes, even though opossums eat eggs, chicks and pullets if unprotected at night, they eat snakes like hot dogs at a cookout. They have a lot of immunity from the venomous ones so they can be helpful at work while you sleep.

Now you can feel safer in your own special habitat. 🍵🙂👍

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