Concerning the gift of tongues

the gift of tongues seems to be a misunderstood gift by many in the church speaking nonsense or just empty words but what does the gift have to do with the body of Christ? well it is for the edifying and empowering of the believers but it seems to be either a rare gift or just non existent

personally I have only experienced it a few times the real thing that is and if I could tell you what it feels like to experience the real thing well for me it felt like an invisible hand moving my heart like the awesome and mind blowing power of God was being poured into me like I mean poured big time it leaves you stunned in awe of God it fills you with this life and you can feel a fire or surge of power flowing inside you all of a sudden

However I have encountered so many fake tongues as well that I might as well not believe in it but because I believed in it even though I never saw or experienced it before that is what made it possible to experience the real thing believing without seeing for myself.

I also wonder if anyone here does operate in the gift, if so then what does it feel like to you when you speak in tongues and what have you seen it do to those who hear?

I know that intensity you speak of but only with prophesying to be honest I kind of wish I spoke in tongues but I just don't have that gift and I certainly cannot interpret but do you have experience of speaking in tongues to pray? I have heard it can be used for that

I wonder if that is an actual part of the gift or if that is just one of those fake aspects of it I don't know anyone who speaks in tongues personally

It's not all about the feeling... it's measuring it up against scripture.

That's how you know. Experience is subjective.

When I was a charismatic methodist youth, I was basically riding emotions when doing tongue speaking.

There was no interpreter. It wasn't an earthly language..I was basically in a trance, babbling. Free word association.

About 5 years after this..I was trying New Age beliefs. Looking back..I can't tell the difference.

You gotta test..check your emotions. Emotions don't guide spiritual experience... scripture application to your life first. .then emotions come out of that.

this verse ca,e to mind 1 Corinthians 14:2: "For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit" this seems to me to be the praying in toungues I have heard about

Check the context of that verse. Is speaking mysteries here a practice God wants. .or is it out of order/part of the problems the Corinthians were having with their pagan beliefs combining with Christianity?

what is the context? it seems pretty staight forward to me it doesn't mention any of that

there is also this as well 1 Corinthians 14:4: "He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself
in fact Psul speaks a lot about tongues in this chapter

• 1 Corinthians 14:26-28: When speaking in tongues in a church setting, it should be done in a way that benefits everyone, with interpretation, and if no interpreter is present, the speaker should remain silent and speak to himself and to God.

but he also says this
1 Corinthians 14:39: "Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues
So he who speaks in tongues speaks mysteries in the spirit they edify themselves and we are to not forbid the speaking in tongues
that is what I got from it at least

1 Corinthians 14:6-11 KJV - Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?

7 And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?

8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?

9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.

10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification. 11 Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.

So here is showing that tongues people understand is how God wants it

I used to speak and sing in tongues around all people. Such as the shopping mall or at work. There never was an interpreter and I was faced with unbelief. The worst of it was they said it just sounds like babbling to them.

Yes, this is precisely what happened to me.

fair point so then if one speaks in an unknown language by the urging of the spirit but there is no interpreter does that mean they are not speaking in tongues or is it a prayer type thing between them and God? in fact is there even a case for praying in tongues? and what did the scripture that says they speak mysteries in the spirit mean then? this one here
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wattie said:
It's not all about the feeling... it's measuring it up against scripture.

That's how you know. Experience is subjective.

When I was a charismatic methodist youth, I was basically riding emotions when doing tongue speaking.

There was no interpreter. It wasn't an earthly language..I was basically in a trance, babbling. Free word association.

About 5 years after this..I was trying New Age beliefs. Looking back..I can't tell the difference.

You gotta test..check your emotions. Emotions don't guide spiritual experience... scripture application to your life first. .then emotions come out of that.
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this verse ca,e to mind 1 Corinthians 14:2: "For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit"

So like I also wanted to say.
It's not me that speaks, but the holy spirit.
The holy spirit has spoken thru me without much effort before. Sometimes he will speak things, saying things. Sometimes you might not know he spoke.
And then he will speak sometimes, without using you at all. One time he spoke out and said, "The Lord Rebuke You Satan." He will defend you.

when you spoke and sung in tongues was it kind of like a bubbling inside you that just kind of poured out or did you just start speakinging randomly and it just happened?

sorry I have no idea what happened here it wuoted an earlier post of yours for some reason

I meant to ask about this part

1 Corinthians 14:2: "For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit" this seems to me to be the praying in toungues I have heard about

This here is what my pastor told me. That the holy spirit is praying for you. And sometimes the holy spirit is praying for other people. And you never know who he is praying for.

The very first time I did it, it can bubbling up out of me, like a fountain of water. That is how it felt. Now It's so easy and free, I just do it.
Sometimes for some people, they are not as blessed to have many many words or sentinces. Sometimes it's just one word they get to speak. But My Pastor Said, even if all it is just one word, do it. She said especially if the holy spirit is saying the same thing over and over again. Take time and pray.

KJV
Romans
{8:26} Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our
infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we
ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with
groanings which cannot be uttered.

That sounds about right it is the same way for me when I write my poems it is like a fountain pouring out of me and it is like almost uncontroled the words just pour out

yes, the holy spirit can even play music on things like a piano.