Re "Not logical to me": I find faith quite logical, and commitment--as in my marriage of 50+ years--a crucial component.
The things of the flesh seen, is only temporal, the things we do not see are eternal
We have flesh works and look at me attitudes, I go to Church and do as I am suppose to do, I am not like others, as that heathen over there.
Really??????????????????????/
Luke 18:9-14 whom is justified and how? Not by works, which is logical to do
I believe God, I see new in trust to God by Son for me as I see many do see this too, at least are learning new in the gift given, is all God and none of self to me at least
When I was too busy working it out for me, I was a person better than others and had logical thinking going on as if God loved me more than others. Then when I saw others doing it better then me, I went after them to be better than them, How ridiculous to me now
Not well for my Soul. I saw what was in my way, my first born flesh, that doesn't please or cannot please God as in Romans 8:1-3 tells me.
I see you are working it all out, having doubts, that is okay, Father will teach you new if you willing to hear and trust, which I think you are and so let go to God
A physical, spiritual analogy for you.
Standing on the edge of a cliff. I look over and see it is far down to the bottom.
Scared, I see to not fall off. But I hear jump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I say, no way, I cannot jump. if I jump off I will die.
Yes, truth, yet if you trust me completely, I God will catch you in the palm of my hand and lead you new in love to all, not just a few as you have been taught to only love those that love you back, Now see Moses leaving Egypt and the fire that stopped the Egyptians, then the sea opening and closing on them, not those God freed. They, actually Moses in the Faith to God, as tiny as a mustard seed.
Today this Faith is offered in risen Son to us all to have and do as needed to do, not haphazardly ever, thank you
I Spiritually jumped off, it has been a bumpy ride, and Father has never left me behind, even though I have done that, in my logical thinking garbage to me now. This be maturing in the grace given me and all others that believe God also, will mature if ask sincerely without any other motive to know God's love for them too. thank you
Phil 3 is deeper then the Mississippi River To let go of all one has been taught to do from first birth forward to win Christ, is a wow, woe to me.
God just loves us all y'all fact that has not changed from day one in the fall of the first Adam
Start right there at the throne of grace and see this love of God for you too. then choose to stand in God or not and do self work to be safe if not yet believe God, I found out I need God's love, mercy and support that God gives free of charge to anyone that will not stop belief to this love and mercy of Son given them on that cross for them.
the new life is the resurrected Christ the one time death was for the propitiation of sins, committed before this event on that cross, during it happening and after fast forward to present day. He took it all for us all to stand in thankfulness and ask to be taught new, thank you Lord, I trust you to show me, thank you