The knowledge of the Truth.

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Gideon300

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It's rarely preached, at least in my experience. But there is another aspect of God's will that seems to be overlooked. That is that God wills that all should come to the knowledge of the truth. (1 Timothy 2:4)

My understanding (and experience) is that it is possible to be saved and yet not come to the knowledge of the truth. Salvation is so huge in scope that a lifetime is not long enough to explore every aspect. So what is "the knowledge of the truth"?

Let's remember that Truth is a person, Lord Jesus. Many Christians know about Jesus but do not know Him except superficially. Paul prayed for the Ephesians that they would receive the Spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of God........Ephesians 1:7

Why do we need wisdom and revelation? Because we start off our Christian walk the way a baby starts life, alive but knowing nothing except what we have by instinct.

For an embarrassing number of years, I judged my salvation by how I was feeling, whether or not I had failed, sinned, or what other people said about me. My usual state was one of confusion. I wrongly thought that this was humility. I was always putting myself down, not realising that in a way I was putting Jesus down.

I was always looking for a breakthrough. And one day, a wonderful day almost as blessed as the day I was born again, I received my breakthrough. And that was that I did not need a breakthrough! Some may not know what this means. Let me explain.

One evening, we were discussing my constant battles. As we talked, I saw that I already had, in Christ, everything that I was ever going to have from God. Better still, there was nothing I could do to affect this in any way. I could not go back in time. Jesus died and rose again 2,000 years ago. God included me in that incredible event when I received Christ. So what did I need to do? Nothing. There is no work I can do, I cannot add to the cross and I cannot take away from it. My believing or not makes no difference. God has done it. All I need do is accept it.

The difference in my life is immeasurable. I've had some of the hardest battles since that day. Once, I would go into depression, assuming that God was displeased with me so I had to suffer. How dumb can you get?

Now I am at peace, even when life gets difficult. I spent a few days in hospital after a mild heart attack. I don't know why I had the heart attack, but I am no less joyful and at peace. I will be going home if this life ends anyway. I am concerned for my wife. I don't want to leave her alone as she has no family to care for her.

If you are still looking at yourself, worrying if you are pleasing God or getting life wrong, look up and live! Jesus did not only die for your sins. He died for you, the sinner of those sins. He included you in His death so that you could be free of the old life. He rose again, and so did you, so that you can experience the new, victorious and overcoming life.

Remember that Jesus lives in you to cause you to be all that God requires you to be. Jesus does that with or without you. How much better it is when we ask Jesus to live out His life through us, as well as in us. Remember too that you are hidden in Christ with God Colossians 3:3). One preacher said that if God had a refrigerator, He would have a magnet with your picture on it because he loves you so much. Not quite. When God looks at me, He sees Jesus. And Jesus is still the Beloved in whom God is well pleased.

God put you into Christ. All we have to do is stay where God has put us. In order to do that, we do need to know the basis for our faith, and that is the Word of God. We need to be diligent and we need to be full of truth that sets us free. It can be a great adventure of discovery of God's love and power. Victory overpowers defeat, love conquers fear and we have peace that no one understands, not even ourselves.
 

Lynx

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#2
Yet in my heart the battle was still raging
Not all prisoners of war had come home
These were battlefields of my own making
I didn't know that the war had been won

Then I heard that the king of the ages
He had fought all life's battles for me
And victory was mine for the claiming
And now, praise his name, I am free!
 

Brasspen

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#3
We are fighting from victory, not for victory. It's won!
 

jacko

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Sep 2, 2024
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#4
For decades, I was justified, by Christ and was saved at 17, but like a baby I never got off the bottle and my faith withered when I stopped going to church in mid 2000s. Only now, am I really going deep into my relationship with the Lord.
 

Soyeong

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Oct 11, 2023
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#5
It's rarely preached, at least in my experience. But there is another aspect of God's will that seems to be overlooked. That is that God wills that all should come to the knowledge of the truth. (1 Timothy 2:4)

My understanding (and experience) is that it is possible to be saved and yet not come to the knowledge of the truth. Salvation is so huge in scope that a lifetime is not long enough to explore every aspect. So what is "the knowledge of the truth"?

Let's remember that Truth is a person, Lord Jesus. Many Christians know about Jesus but do not know Him except superficially. Paul prayed for the Ephesians that they would receive the Spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of God........Ephesians 1:7

Why do we need wisdom and revelation? Because we start off our Christian walk the way a baby starts life, alive but knowing nothing except what we have by instinct.

For an embarrassing number of years, I judged my salvation by how I was feeling, whether or not I had failed, sinned, or what other people said about me. My usual state was one of confusion. I wrongly thought that this was humility. I was always putting myself down, not realising that in a way I was putting Jesus down.

I was always looking for a breakthrough. And one day, a wonderful day almost as blessed as the day I was born again, I received my breakthrough. And that was that I did not need a breakthrough! Some may not know what this means. Let me explain.

One evening, we were discussing my constant battles. As we talked, I saw that I already had, in Christ, everything that I was ever going to have from God. Better still, there was nothing I could do to affect this in any way. I could not go back in time. Jesus died and rose again 2,000 years ago. God included me in that incredible event when I received Christ. So what did I need to do? Nothing. There is no work I can do, I cannot add to the cross and I cannot take away from it. My believing or not makes no difference. God has done it. All I need do is accept it.

The difference in my life is immeasurable. I've had some of the hardest battles since that day. Once, I would go into depression, assuming that God was displeased with me so I had to suffer. How dumb can you get?

Now I am at peace, even when life gets difficult. I spent a few days in hospital after a mild heart attack. I don't know why I had the heart attack, but I am no less joyful and at peace. I will be going home if this life ends anyway. I am concerned for my wife. I don't want to leave her alone as she has no family to care for her.

If you are still looking at yourself, worrying if you are pleasing God or getting life wrong, look up and live! Jesus did not only die for your sins. He died for you, the sinner of those sins. He included you in His death so that you could be free of the old life. He rose again, and so did you, so that you can experience the new, victorious and overcoming life.

Remember that Jesus lives in you to cause you to be all that God requires you to be. Jesus does that with or without you. How much better it is when we ask Jesus to live out His life through us, as well as in us. Remember too that you are hidden in Christ with God Colossians 3:3). One preacher said that if God had a refrigerator, He would have a magnet with your picture on it because he loves you so much. Not quite. When God looks at me, He sees Jesus. And Jesus is still the Beloved in whom God is well pleased.

God put you into Christ. All we have to do is stay where God has put us. In order to do that, we do need to know the basis for our faith, and that is the Word of God. We need to be diligent and we need to be full of truth that sets us free. It can be a great adventure of discovery of God's love and power. Victory overpowers defeat, love conquers fear and we have peace that no one understands, not even ourselves.
God's way is the way to know Him and Jesus by being in His likeness through being a doer of His character traits, such as in Genesis 18:19, God knew Abraham that he would teach his children and those of his household to walk in God's way by being a doer of righteousness and justice that the Lord might bing to him all that He has promised. An arrow flied true when it hits it mark, our mark is to walk in God's way, and God's law is truth (Psalms 119:142) because it is God's instructions for how to walk in God's way (1 Kings 2:1-3) while sin is missing the mark, sin is what is contrary to walking in God's way, and sin is the transgression of God's law (1 John 3:4). The Spirit has the role of leading us in truth (John 16:13) and the Spirit has the role of leading us to obey God's law (1 John 3:4) because God's character traits are the fruits of the Spirit. The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the example likeness of God's character (Hebrews 1:3), which he expressed through his works by setting a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to God's law, so he is the way, the truth, and the life, and the way to know the Father (John 14:6-12). Jesus saves us from our sin (Matthew 1:21), so him graciously teaching us to walk God's way is intrinsically the way that he is giving us his gift of saving us from not walking in God's way.