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Believer08

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If any of you believe I believe something that is considered damnable to the soul of myself or of others, please bring it to my attention. You would be my friend if you came to me about it (Prov. 27:6).

NKJV
Faithful are the wounds of a friend,
But the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

Be in mind that just because someone is wrong doesn’t mean they aren’t a seeker of truth or a heretic. Some people grow and understand at a faster rate than others, and sometimes it takes a while for an individual to understand where it *clicks* for them.

We should all (me included!!!) remember these verses. While it’s directed toward those who are having been taken captive by Satan to do his will (something I am not doing), we are to remember those qualities when dealing with another believer who is a seeker of truth, who means well, who is a follower of Jesus, but who is having difficulty understanding a certain topic, verse, etc etc.

2 Tim. 2:24-26 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition, and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.

We should also remember the qualities found in Col. 4:6; Gal. 5:22-23, and 1 Peter 3:15.
 

homwardbound

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#2
If any of you believe I believe something that is considered damnable to the soul of myself or of others, please bring it to my attention. You would be my friend if you came to me about it (Prov. 27:6).

NKJV
Faithful are the wounds of a friend,
But the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

Be in mind that just because someone is wrong doesn’t mean they aren’t a seeker of truth or a heretic. Some people grow and understand at a faster rate than others, and sometimes it takes a while for an individual to understand where it *clicks* for them.

We should all (me included!!!) remember these verses. While it’s directed toward those who are having been taken captive by Satan to do his will (something I am not doing), we are to remember those qualities when dealing with another believer who is a seeker of truth, who means well, who is a follower of Jesus, but who is having difficulty understanding a certain topic, verse, etc etc.

2 Tim. 2:24-26 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition, and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.

We should also remember the qualities found in Col. 4:6; Gal. 5:22-23, and 1 Peter 3:15.
When we are becoming wise as serpents, remember g to remain harmless as doves, can derail anyone (Matthew 10:16-20)

Authorized (King James) Version



Psalm 1
1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly,
nor standeth in the way of sinners,
nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord;
and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water,
that bringeth forth his fruit in his season;
his leaf also shall not wither;
and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.


Living Bible

Psalm 1:1-3

1 Oh, the joys of those who do not follow evil men’s advice, who do not hang around with sinners, scoffing at the things of God. 2 But they delight in doing everything God wants them to, and day and night are always meditating on his laws and thinking about ways to follow him more closely.
3 They are like trees along a riverbank bearing luscious fruit each season without fail. Their leaves shall never wither, and all they do shall prosper.
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thanks
 

Blade

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Nov 19, 2019
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#3
If any of you believe I believe something that is considered damnable to the soul of myself or of others, please bring it to my attention. You would be my friend if you came to me about it (Prov. 27:6).

NKJV
Faithful are the wounds of a friend,
But the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

Be in mind that just because someone is wrong doesn’t mean they aren’t a seeker of truth or a heretic. Some people grow and understand at a faster rate than others, and sometimes it takes a while for an individual to understand where it *clicks* for them.

We should all (me included!!!) remember these verses. While it’s directed toward those who are having been taken captive by Satan to do his will (something I am not doing), we are to remember those qualities when dealing with another believer who is a seeker of truth, who means well, who is a follower of Jesus, but who is having difficulty understanding a certain topic, verse, etc etc.

2 Tim. 2:24-26 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition, and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.

We should also remember the qualities found in Col. 4:6; Gal. 5:22-23, and 1 Peter 3:15.
Yeah that would for me very hard to do well I don't know you. A few lines of text here and there.. still don't know you. Why would you say "damnable"? We know 2Nd Peter 2:1 "But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. "

Yet that's not talking about some doctrine I might not agree with. Now being part of some Church, bible study and say what you said.. I would understand.
 

Believer08

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#4
Yeah that would for me very hard to do well I don't know you. A few lines of text here and there.. still don't know you. Why would you say "damnable"? We know 2Nd Peter 2:1 "But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. "

Yet that's not talking about some doctrine I might not agree with. Now being part of some Church, bible study and say what you said.. I would understand.
I say damnable because I want people to correct me if they see I am posting or believing anything of that nature.
 

Hakawaka

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I find it very hard to believe that God would condemn someone based on an incorrect doctrinal belief. That just doesn't sound like Jesus. When you read the Bible, it never says that people are judged for believing the wrong or right set of doctrines, we are always judged based on our works in the Bible. Its everywhere, cant miss it.

There are a few exceptions to this in the bible, like for example denying that Jesus came in the flesh, or that He is the son of God, or died for our sins and rose again. These would be a denial of the Gospel and would result in a damnable heresy.
But being wrong about eschatology or how a church should be ran, I dont see those things as disqualifing someone for salvation. Why would it?
Same thing for the eternal predestination/free will debate. Serves no purpose.
 

wattie

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Feb 24, 2009
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#6
If any of you believe I believe something that is considered damnable to the soul of myself or of others, please bring it to my attention. You would be my friend if you came to me about it (Prov. 27:6).

NKJV
Faithful are the wounds of a friend,
But the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

Be in mind that just because someone is wrong doesn’t mean they aren’t a seeker of truth or a heretic. Some people grow and understand at a faster rate than others, and sometimes it takes a while for an individual to understand where it *clicks* for them.

We should all (me included!!!) remember these verses. While it’s directed toward those who are having been taken captive by Satan to do his will (something I am not doing), we are to remember those qualities when dealing with another believer who is a seeker of truth, who means well, who is a follower of Jesus, but who is having difficulty understanding a certain topic, verse, etc etc.

2 Tim. 2:24-26 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition, and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.

We should also remember the qualities found in Col. 4:6; Gal. 5:22-23, and 1 Peter 3:15.
You preach baptismal regeneration. This is not faith in Christ for salvation.

You have works for salvation. This is trusting what you do instead of Jesus Christ, to get to heaven.

Salvation is purely believing on the Lord Jesus Christ for eternal life.

Believing that He lived sinless, is God, that He died and rose again. That by believing on Him, you have everlasting life.

That is salvation. Not water baptism, not doing a series of works. Its His payment for you, not your performance.

John 5:24, 6:40, 8:40, 10:28
Ephesians 2:8-9
Romans 5:8
Romans 10:9-10

Believe and receive.
 

Believer08

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#7
I find it very hard to believe that God would condemn someone based on an incorrect doctrinal belief. That just doesn't sound like Jesus. When you read the Bible, it never says that people are judged for believing the wrong or right set of doctrines, we are always judged based on our works in the Bible. Its everywhere, cant miss it.

There are a few exceptions to this in the bible, like for example denying that Jesus came in the flesh, or that He is the son of God, or died for our sins and rose again. These would be a denial of the Gospel and would result in a damnable heresy.
But being wrong about eschatology or how a church should be ran, I dont see those things as disqualifing someone for salvation. Why would it?
Same thing for the eternal predestination/free will debate. Serves no purpose.
I sincerely hope you’re right, because there are things that I am wrong about since I don’t know everything, and I’d hope God’s grace (love and forgiveness) covers it.
 

TMS

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Mar 21, 2015
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#8
The thing that divides each church are their different foundermental doctrines.

There are many differences and they can make a big impact on how people think of God. A few examples ....

Jesus is created vs... Jesus is not created..

People are unconscious in Death vs.... are conscious and alive in spirit when they die.

Hell is literal and burning people forever vs.... hell is forever death.

The millenium is on earth vs.... in heaven.

The new covenant includes the 10 commandments vs... it doesn't include the 10 commandments..

These different doctrines affect our thinking and actions
They affect our understanding of God's character.
These false doctrines are introduced by Satan to take us away from the truth.
The truth will set us free.
 

GWH

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Oct 19, 2024
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#9
I find it very hard to believe that God would condemn someone based on an incorrect doctrinal belief. That just doesn't sound like Jesus. When you read the Bible, it never says that people are judged for believing the wrong or right set of doctrines, we are always judged based on our works in the Bible. Its everywhere, cant miss it.

There are a few exceptions to this in the bible, like for example denying that Jesus came in the flesh, or that He is the son of God, or died for our sins and rose again. These would be a denial of the Gospel and would result in a damnable heresy.
But being wrong about eschatology or how a church should be ran, I dont see those things as disqualifing someone for salvation. Why would it?
Same thing for the eternal predestination/free will debate. Serves no purpose.
Yes, believing the Gospel is necessary for salvation, but not correctly understanding secondary doctrines,
although they may serve a good purpose regarding spiritual unity and maturation.
 

Hakawaka

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#10
I sincerely hope you’re right, because there are things that I am wrong about since I don’t know everything, and I’d hope God’s grace (love and forgiveness) covers it.
I can guarantee you it does, no worries my friend. When you have that type of a seeking truth mindset, God will lead you into all truth, it just takes time for all of us.