What makes a prayer warrior?

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Blain

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I have never had much luck with prayer and I want to be someone who can be an intercession for the hurting or lost or just anyone in general but I figured maybe it just isn't my gift.
But this got me thinking what makes one a true prayer warrior? is it a gift of the spirit or is it just a passionate heart? and why do some people it seems can pray and recieve while others like me can pray but never see results? what is missing what makes one able while not the other?
 
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I have never had much luck with prayer and I want to be someone who can be an intercession for the hurting or lost or just anyone in general but I figured maybe it just isn't my gift.
But this got me thinking what makes one a true prayer warrior? is it a gift of the spirit or is it just a passionate heart? and why do some people it seems can pray and recieve while others like me can pray but never see results? what is missing what makes one able while not the other?
What may be missing is understanding that prayer is simply talking to God. The most basic prayer that makes for short prayer meetings is "Thy will be done."

Like physical walking, spiritual walking has two steps. Another apt analogy is the act of breathing. The meaning of both analogies is simply communion or communication with God’s Holy Spirit. The first step or inhale is listening to God (LGW), and the second step or exhale is responding to or cooperating with God. The Believer’s main types of responses to God’s Word are prayer to God and good works unto others for God (cf. 1JN 4:20, EPH 2:10).

The kerygmatic prayer that is necessary in order for a sinner be saved and walk with God is confession (1JN 1:9, PS 32:1-5). From the moment of repentance onward, whenever a Believer acknowledges to God his/her known sins of immoral attitudes and actions, God forgives all sins (1JN 1:9b). This means he/she is pleasing rather than grieving God or once again is Spirit-filled (walking in the Spirit) and has a right relationship with Christ Jesus (EPH 4:30, 5:10 & 18).

Petition may be the most used and least understood type of prayer. The Lord’s Sample Prayer (MT 6:9-13) has a series of petitions. In Philippians 4:6 Paul taught: “By prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.” A petition in which we ask God for something on behalf of another person is called intercession. Paul frequently prayed for others (EPH 1:16-18, PHP 1:3-4&9, CL 1:3&9), and he asked believers to pray for him (EPH 6:18-20, CL 4:3-4, 1TM 2:1, 2THS 3:1), so perhaps intercession should be our most frequent type of petition (EPH 6:18b).

The privilege of petitioning God should not be viewed as a blank check, nor is the primary purpose of prayer to persuade God to do our will like a genie. Rather, in prayer we should express our agreement with the perfect will of God. As 1 John 5:14 says, “if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.” Although agreement with God is not always mentioned (cf. EPH 3:20, JN 16:23), Jesus exemplified this principle when He prayed in the Garden of Gethsemane (MT 26:36-46). Again, we should approach God’s “throne of grace” (HB 4:16) not to ask Him to do some good He otherwise would not do, but rather to remind ourselves of His presence and that He is the source of all blessings (JM 1:17). In order to pray in accordance with God’s will, we must know God’s Word (JN 15:7). Like bread and butter or romantic love and spiritual marriage, prayer and LGW go together.

God may answer a petition in various ways: 1. He may grant it as requested (1KG 18:37-39), 2. He may grant the underlying desire in a way different than requested (GN 17:18-19), 3. He may grant the request, but it will not satisfy our desire (NM 11:4-34, PS 106:15), and 4. God may say “no” or “not yet”, perhaps but not necessarily because we are committing some sin, including: a. lack of faith (JM 1:6-8), MT 21:21-22), b. disobedience or lack of love (1JN 3:21-23, PR 21:13, JOB 35:12-13), c. marital strife (1PT 3:7), and d. selfishness (JM 4:3).

Knowing God’s will is necessary in order for us to pray more specifically than “Thy will be done”. Much of God’s will is prescriptive or stated in clear moral teachings such as the Ten Commandments (EX 20:1-17, MT 19:17-21, GL 5:22-23). We may not know how to pray, but we can “live up to what we have already attained” (PHP 3:16). That we pray is more important to God than our wording (EPH 6:18a, 1THS 5:17, RM 8:26-27). Not praying would be like giving God “the silent treatment”.

The power of prayer is God’s, and Believers should not talk as though God would not act if they did not pray! In brief, prayer is like surfing: One does not need to ask God to send waves, but rather for readiness to ride them.

[Genez should appreciate this post :^]
 

Gideon300

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#3
I have never had much luck with prayer and I want to be someone who can be an intercession for the hurting or lost or just anyone in general but I figured maybe it just isn't my gift.
But this got me thinking what makes one a true prayer warrior? is it a gift of the spirit or is it just a passionate heart? and why do some people it seems can pray and recieve while others like me can pray but never see results? what is missing what makes one able while not the other?
My wife is a prayer warrior. I'm sure it is a gift. I also believe that every Christian should pray. The most effective prayer starts with God. He will show us what to pray (as Jesus showed us with the Lord's prayer). Obviously if we pray according to God's will, we will get the answer.

Some people start with a prayer diary. They write down what they've prayed. Then they mark it answered when appropriate. Be sure of your ground. God always answers, "Yes", "No" or "Wait". Be persistent. Satan will contest us before God. Be thankful whatever the result. Sometimes we are better off not getting a "yes". We are not always aware of the consequences of "yes".

An example. My wife and I live in a retirement village. It is funded in effect by the retirees. A portion of the entry cost is retained when the resident departs, usually to a nursing home or, more often, by dying. The village is presently in the red as it is expanding. Someone I know advocated for the village to get back in the black. I pointed out that this would require people to die.

Study what the Bible has to say about prayer. God before God armed with His promises. And don't worry about whether or not you feel anything. That used to bother me until someone I knew and trusted assured me that God took my prayers seriously. We often do not see results immediately or recognise the answer when it comes. There is no such thing as "luck" or "coincidence".

Ensure that you come before God clothed in the righteousness of Christ and having confessed all known sin. Sin hinders prayer and God rejects self righteousness completely. Immature Christians get away with a lot because of God's grace. It gets more demanding as we grow spiritually.

I hope this helps. Prayer is the foundation of every good work. If it is not something prayed about, it is not of God. And that applies even if it seems amazingly successful.
 

Blain

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Thank you both for your responses it really helps clear things up and I would wager this would also help others who read it as well especially if they don't know how to pray
 

Genez

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Jesus said..... we must go to the Father by asking in Jesus name.


We must have our sins all named up to date to God before entering prayer.

" If I regard iniquity in my heart,
Lord/'Adonay will not hear me."
Psalm 66:18​
 

Blade

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#7
I have never had much luck with prayer and I want to be someone who can be an intercession for the hurting or lost or just anyone in general but I figured maybe it just isn't my gift.
But this got me thinking what makes one a true prayer warrior? is it a gift of the spirit or is it just a passionate heart? and why do some people it seems can pray and recieve while others like me can pray but never see results? what is missing what makes one able while not the other?
You know I had a dream once where I saw these dark gray clouds coming over the MTN I get out of my red car and I turn my head to the right I see the plane coming down it also had these dark gray clouds around the engines. The plan started to turn and was falling right towards me. The next thing I new I was on the plan in a window seat as the plan was turning.. crashed hit me then I was out side the plane. I thought "If I am dead why am I..." poof went strength up.. mind blowing fast. I was in the beautiful place a tree to my left a dear in front of me and this ..this small woman said to me "there is no such thing as luck here".

Haha.. yeah all that to say no such thing as luck. A song ..old one your desire is a confirmation the destination is there God would not put it in your spirit if it was not going somewhere. Two days ago I watch this preacher saying "we need those grandmothers who's hair is up in a bun again to be praying." Oh he was spot on well when I was like 15 (63 now) the bible study I went to was run by two grand parents and she prayed 4 hours a day and her hair was always up. You know I never once asked why. But man she had so much power of GOD.

Prayer.. that is where the battle is.. its not with flesh and blood yet that is were we tend to fight huh. So toss out luck.. what ever the need we find what He said in His word. So that intercession we stay there.. we keep praying. Some things we keep praying until we get the answer. Yeah its not a calling so ask your self .. where did this thought "prayer warrior" come from? :) yeah He gave it to you.. So start it.. He will take over at some point. We do again tend to say things yet we truly don't mean it. So start..
 

Blain

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You know I had a dream once where I saw these dark gray clouds coming over the MTN I get out of my red car and I turn my head to the right I see the plane coming down it also had these dark gray clouds around the engines. The plan started to turn and was falling right towards me. The next thing I new I was on the plan in a window seat as the plan was turning.. crashed hit me then I was out side the plane. I thought "If I am dead why am I..." poof went strength up.. mind blowing fast. I was in the beautiful place a tree to my left a dear in front of me and this ..this small woman said to me "there is no such thing as luck here".

Haha.. yeah all that to say no such thing as luck. A song ..old one your desire is a confirmation the destination is there God would not put it in your spirit if it was not going somewhere. Two days ago I watch this preacher saying "we need those grandmothers who's hair is up in a bun again to be praying." Oh he was spot on well when I was like 15 (63 now) the bible study I went to was run by two grand parents and she prayed 4 hours a day and her hair was always up. You know I never once asked why. But man she had so much power of GOD.

Prayer.. that is where the battle is.. its not with flesh and blood yet that is were we tend to fight huh. So toss out luck.. what ever the need we find what He said in His word. So that intercession we stay there.. we keep praying. Some things we keep praying until we get the answer. Yeah its not a calling so ask your self .. where did this thought "prayer warrior" come from? :) yeah He gave it to you.. So start it.. He will take over at some point. We do again tend to say things yet we truly don't mean it. So start..
Your response is confirmation to me in more than one way
 
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Jesus said..... we must go to the Father by asking in Jesus name.


We must have our sins all named up to date to God before entering prayer.

" If I regard iniquity in my heart,
Lord/'Adonay will not hear me."
Psalm 66:18​
Did you appreciate my post?
You should have, because most of it I learned from...
(RBT :^).
 

Melach

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You know I had a dream once where I saw these dark gray clouds coming over the MTN I get out of my red car and I turn my head to the right I see the plane coming down it also had these dark gray clouds around the engines. The plan started to turn and was falling right towards me. The next thing I new I was on the plan in a window seat as the plan was turning.. crashed hit me then I was out side the plane. I thought "If I am dead why am I..." poof went strength up.. mind blowing fast. I was in the beautiful place a tree to my left a dear in front of me and this ..this small woman said to me "there is no such thing as luck here".

Haha.. yeah all that to say no such thing as luck. A song ..old one your desire is a confirmation the destination is there God would not put it in your spirit if it was not going somewhere. Two days ago I watch this preacher saying "we need those grandmothers who's hair is up in a bun again to be praying." Oh he was spot on well when I was like 15 (63 now) the bible study I went to was run by two grand parents and she prayed 4 hours a day and her hair was always up. You know I never once asked why. But man she had so much power of GOD.

Prayer.. that is where the battle is.. its not with flesh and blood yet that is were we tend to fight huh. So toss out luck.. what ever the need we find what He said in His word. So that intercession we stay there.. we keep praying. Some things we keep praying until we get the answer. Yeah its not a calling so ask your self .. where did this thought "prayer warrior" come from? :) yeah He gave it to you.. So start it.. He will take over at some point. We do again tend to say things yet we truly don't mean it. So start..
4 hours a day??? i would run out of things to pray for.
 

PaulThomson

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I have never had much luck with prayer and I want to be someone who can be an intercession for the hurting or lost or just anyone in general but I figured maybe it just isn't my gift.
But this got me thinking what makes one a true prayer warrior? is it a gift of the spirit or is it just a passionate heart? and why do some people it seems can pray and recieve while others like me can pray but never see results? what is missing what makes one able while not the other?
I believe this will help you. https://www.awmi.net/audio/audio-teachings/?teaching=a-better-way-to-pray
 

PaulThomson

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I have never had much luck with prayer and I want to be someone who can be an intercession for the hurting or lost or just anyone in general but I figured maybe it just isn't my gift.
But this got me thinking what makes one a true prayer warrior? is it a gift of the spirit or is it just a passionate heart? and why do some people it seems can pray and recieve while others like me can pray but never see results? what is missing what makes one able while not the other?
In situations, knowing God's will from His word and declaring that with faith. Short prayers with faith declaring what God wants are effective over long prayers with earnest pleadings for things God does not want. Also pleading for God to do what He already wants to do, indicates a lack of faith that God actually wants to do it, and such a prayer will likely not be effective because it lacks faith.
 
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I have never had much luck with prayer and I want to be someone who can be an intercession for the hurting or lost or just anyone in general but I figured maybe it just isn't my gift.
But this got me thinking what makes one a true prayer warrior? is it a gift of the spirit or is it just a passionate heart? and why do some people it seems can pray and recieve while others like me can pray but never see results? what is missing what makes one able while not the other?
Not my will your will be done Father, thank you, I never know how or even hear. how, being too busy here in this world, Yet, I know, trust you hear me Daddy, PaPa, Father, and will carry on the work in me and work that through me (Phil 1:6) that part is settled in me, thank you!
I see this as growing in grace, that God carries on in each person that continues to stand inn belief to his love for them given them through risen Son to them, who had to go through death once for us all to reconcile us all, as forgiven 100% from Father. To give us new life to grow up unto maturity in as in Hebrews 5:12-Chapter 6 Col. 1-2 chapters
To see what is given us to not boast over with our emotions in the lead.
I see a train wreck, whenever my emotions get in the lead
It is like a caboose leading the train when emotions are prompting me to go here or there, I am bored and need more
That I see after going through that. trusting you will get through this Blain, and al, others also as we exam in belief to God in risen Son are each in different growth.Just like first birth, we are first on milk, then meat then walk and talk
The Holy Spirit given to us by God, we, at least me to get grow up new and not of flesh and blood anymore, Standing in trust to God and not denying God is beat for me at least love to all
 

Blain

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perhaps the real issue is knowing his will when you pray, you could be praying for something he already has in mind to do and maybe sometimes we are praying against his will. like if I pray for someone but he already is going to help them.
 

Cameron143

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perhaps the real issue is knowing his will when you pray, you could be praying for something he already has in mind to do and maybe sometimes we are praying against his will. like if I pray for someone but he already is going to help them.
This may be more right than you know. Some believe prayer to be a means of getting God to earth to do our will. More likely it is to get us to heaven to learn His will.
 

Karlon

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I have never had much luck with prayer and I want to be someone who can be an intercession for the hurting or lost or just anyone in general but I figured maybe it just isn't my gift.
But this got me thinking what makes one a true prayer warrior? is it a gift of the spirit or is it just a passionate heart? and why do some people it seems can pray and recieve while others like me can pray but never see results? what is missing what makes one able while not the other?
no Christian can have luck with prayer. impossible. why? because luck, fate & chance have no part whatsoever in a Christian's
life. it's all blessings. in other words, if we ask Jesus for something & do not receive it, it's a blessing, if we do receive it, it's a blessing. no, not a gift from the H.S., anyone can become one. just start praying for people all day & night as much as you can. i've been doing that since i became a born again Christian in 1993. you haven't mentioned if you are a born again Christian. if not, that may be why your prayers are unanswered. for example, John 9:31 teaches: "now we know God heareth NOT sinners......" God will not answer the prayers of an atheist unless it is a prayer of repentance. God doesn't always answer prayers immediately. usually it takes more time than we like.
 

Blain

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no Christian can have luck with prayer. impossible. why? because luck, fate & chance have no part whatsoever in a Christian's
life. it's all blessings. in other words, if we ask Jesus for something & do not receive it, it's a blessing, if we do receive it, it's a blessing. no, not a gift from the H.S., anyone can become one. just start praying for people all day & night as much as you can. i've been doing that since i became a born again Christian in 1993. you haven't mentioned if you are a born again Christian. if not, that may be why your prayers are unanswered. for example, John 9:31 teaches: "now we know God heareth NOT sinners......" God will not answer the prayers of an atheist unless it is a prayer of repentance. God doesn't always answer prayers immediately. usually it takes more time than we like.
That is a good way to look at it as blessings no matter the answer but yes I am a born again Christian since 2012
 

Genez

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Did you appreciate my post?
You should have, because most of it I learned from...
(RBT :^).
I do not always agree with him.

Most of the time I do, and find the richness of his thinking ASTOUNDING and liberating.

.......
 
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I do not always agree with him.

Most of the time I do, and find the richness of his thinking ASTOUNDING and liberating.

.......
Well I am usually foggy about whom I learned what from but I remember him teaching about spiritual breathing and the ways God answers prayer and the various hindrances to prayer. I also remember him teaching how the Greek makes faith rather than Peter the rock on which the church is built.