Crazy thought: Could the kings/princes be demonic angels?

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Hakawaka

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I was just reading Revelation 9 which mentions Apollyon/Abanddon, a demonic king, these types of demonic princes are also mentioned as "prince of persia" etc in the book of Daniel.

So what if the book of Revelation talks about spiritual entities such as this and not earthly kings and rulers necessarily? Could it be possible? Is there any suppor for this? I googled it and no one seems to believe it, so its probably a whacky idea. Anyways, give me your ideas fellas.
 

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I was just reading Revelation 9 which mentions Apollyon/Abanddon, a demonic king, these types of demonic princes are also mentioned as "prince of persia" etc in the book of Daniel.

So what if the book of Revelation talks about spiritual entities such as this and not earthly kings and rulers necessarily? Could it be possible? Is there any suppor for this? I googled it and no one seems to believe it, so its probably a whacky idea. Anyways, give me your ideas fellas.
Apollyon in Greek and Abaddon in Hebrew both mean the same thing. Destroyer. Satan is the one referred to. There are earthly kings that will form a one world government that suffers a deadly wound but there are also fallen angels that will rule as kings when they get thrown down from heaven along with Satan. Rev 12:7-9.
 

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I was just reading Revelation 9 which mentions Apollyon/Abanddon, a demonic king, these types of demonic princes are also mentioned as "prince of persia" etc in the book of Daniel.

So what if the book of Revelation talks about spiritual entities such as this and not earthly kings and rulers necessarily? Could it be possible? Is there any suppor for this? I googled it and no one seems to believe it, so its probably a whacky idea. Anyways, give me your ideas fellas.
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Not so wacky when considering the iron and clay.

Many say some are weak and some are strong---no problem

But the iron could be angels and humans are the clay.

Rev 12:7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
 

Dino246

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I was just reading Revelation 9 which mentions Apollyon/Abanddon, a demonic king, these types of demonic princes are also mentioned as "prince of persia" etc in the book of Daniel.

So what if the book of Revelation talks about spiritual entities such as this and not earthly kings and rulers necessarily? Could it be possible? Is there any suppor for this? I googled it and no one seems to believe it, so its probably a whacky idea. Anyways, give me your ideas fellas.
The "prince of Persia" and the "prince of Greece" mentioned in Daniel are among the spiritual entities to whom God abandoned the nations (see Deuteronomy 32:8). They are not human kings, nor are human kings demonic princes. Human kings may be influenced and even possessed by powerful evil spirits but that still doesn't make them one and the same.

Credit to the late Dr. Michael Heiser; much more information can be found at his site drmsh.com.
 

Gideon300

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I was just reading Revelation 9 which mentions Apollyon/Abanddon, a demonic king, these types of demonic princes are also mentioned as "prince of persia" etc in the book of Daniel.

So what if the book of Revelation talks about spiritual entities such as this and not earthly kings and rulers necessarily? Could it be possible? Is there any suppor for this? I googled it and no one seems to believe it, so its probably a whacky idea. Anyways, give me your ideas fellas.
Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 are judgements, at first glance seemingly on earthly rulers. Ezekiel 28 speaks of the prince of Tyre, yet it also seems to refer to Satan. Many Christians believe that it is recounting how Satan fell because he rebelled against God. That includes me. So it is possible that the various natural rulers are like front men for wicked rulers of darkness.
 
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I was just reading Revelation 9 which mentions Apollyon/Abanddon, a demonic king, these types of demonic princes are also mentioned as "prince of persia" etc in the book of Daniel.

So what if the book of Revelation talks about spiritual entities such as this and not earthly kings and rulers necessarily? Could it be possible? Is there any suppor for this? I googled it and no one seems to believe it, so its probably a whacky idea. Anyways, give me your ideas fellas.
The word "prince" appears only one time in the book of Revelation, and it is a reference to Jesus Christ.

Rev 1:5
And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
Rev 1:6
And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

"The kings" in verse 5 are human beings or "the kings of the earth," and the "kings" in verse 6 are Christians.

Rev 5:10
And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Again, the "kings" in this verse are Christians.

Rev 6:15
And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

These "kings" are human beings or "the kings of the earth."

Rev 9:11
And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

This is the sole place in the book of Revelation where a "king" is an "angel."

Rev 10:11
And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

These "kings" are human beings.

Rev 15:3
And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

The "King" here is Christ.

Rev 16:12
And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

"The kings of the east" are human beings.

Rev 16:14
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

"The kings of the earth" are human beings, but they are being influenced by demons.

Rev 17:2
With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

"The kings of the earth" are human beings.

Rev 17:10
And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

The "seven kings" are human beings.

Rev 17:12
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

The "ten kings" are human kings who had not yet received power in John's day.

Rev 17:14
These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Jesus is the "King," and the "kings" are human beings.

Rev 17:18
And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Rev 18:3
For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

Rev 18:9
And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

In these three verses, these "kings" are human beings or "the kings of the earth."

Rev 19:16
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Again, Jesus is the "King," and the "Kings" are human beings.

Rev 19:18
That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

These are fleshly "kings" or human beings.

Rev 19:19
And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

Rev 21:24
And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

In these two verses, the "kings" are human beings or "the kings of the earth."
 

Blade

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I was just reading Revelation 9 which mentions Apollyon/Abanddon, a demonic king, these types of demonic princes are also mentioned as "prince of persia" etc in the book of Daniel.

So what if the book of Revelation talks about spiritual entities such as this and not earthly kings and rulers necessarily? Could it be possible? Is there any suppor for this? I googled it and no one seems to believe it, so its probably a whacky idea. Anyways, give me your ideas fellas.
I know in Daniel.. yes "But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me twenty-one days; and behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left alone there with the kings of Persia. "

How many did the angel of the lord kill 185000. Yeah.. Gab had to call on Michael for help. Jump to the NT we know the battle is not with flesh and blood "For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."
 

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I was just reading Revelation 9 which mentions Apollyon/Abanddon, a demonic king, these types of demonic princes are also mentioned as "prince of persia" etc in the book of Daniel.

So what if the book of Revelation talks about spiritual entities such as this and not earthly kings and rulers necessarily? Could it be possible? Is there any suppor for this? I googled it and no one seems to believe it, so its probably a whacky idea. Anyways, give me your ideas fellas.
God loves you and all people, your worry over anything, brings doubt to the table in the done work of Son for you personally
Good knows what God has allowed and why. God being the one and only one good, I see, God loves us all. That be why Son came here to earth to go to that cross and die once, to take away Law that steal, kills and destroys people all over this world, that try to do it, question it
When by God it is finished for us in Son to us all (John19:30) go to the risen Life and see new in truth, stop the worry
see the worry Jesus said in Matthew 6 asked
"Will worry add any moment to your life? Answer that, I did and saw worry never fixed anything
It steals, kills destroys as said in John 10:10, yet Jesus came to give us life, new life in Father, Daddy's, PaPa's Spirit and truth
believe, receive and see, thanks