Do you believe God's elect skip the judgement?

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The judgement Seat of Christ is about works.
You either get crowns or your works are burned up.
No penalties.
Just embarrassment with no crowns
 

Blain

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The judgement Seat of Christ is about works.
You either get crowns or your works are burned up.
No penalties.
Just embarrassment with no crowns
there seem to be a kind of jufgement for works but also one for actual judgement is there not?
 
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Yeah I am kind of scared of that day I don't need a reminder of all I have done wrong.....
Brother from Father's view through Son to you, you well, thanks to Father and Son as Won (One) for you.
Romans 4:7
“Blessed and to be envied,” he said, “are those whose sins are forgiven and put out of sight.
You realize in Son it is put out of Father's sight so fast, thanks to the done work of Son for you, that you can now learn new in belief to see you through it all, taking no credit in self being now able to do it, with God's done work of risen Son for you, working through you.
Believe God, receive forgiven from God through risen Son as you have done already to not be under Law (Rather uphold Law) over being under it, where no flesh can do it, only the one that did it and was not born of man to begin with, woman yes, not man Hebrews 7:11-12. John 19:30. John 1:29
I bet you do not take this for granted, yet as in Romans 7 you see you doing what you not want to do and do it anyways, me too. It is not you that does it, it is the sinful flesh in us that does that, wanting us to become worse and worse at it, over guilt and shame from it. There is a line to see to not cross, and be new in. "A person has to know their own limitations" I think you know yours. So depend on God's lead not self works please.
The risen Son will do the work needed through you, Believe, receive and see
As you already do that.
Thanks
At the end of the energy of me, I see "I" can't Do it. All I have left is to depend on God on the done work of Son for me, to not ever think I got anymore pride ever, God's grace being sufficient for me to be new in love and mercy, you and all others that believe God too, given me and all others too. He died once for us all, that reconciled everyone as forgiven to God Father to be able to approach the throne of grace in thanksgiving and praise All sin taken away by Son as far as the east is form the west how far is the east from the west?
Not promoting or excusing sin. Seeing truth, we are in bodies that die, and all have died ever since that first fall in Adam the first, who ate in "Unbelief" he would die. Did not believe God and ate after seeing Eve eat frist and not die right away. Doubt there entered him and he ate also. Then ran and hid, man still runs and hides, even facing up to not me, I did it because, is not being accountable to self. It is hiding
Time to face it
I am a failure, 'I" can't do it righteously. but God did it for me and can through me.
So, will we remain in thanksgiving and praise and glory in your need for God to lead?
Many will say and do say we that say that take the grace given for granted. As each person knows within themselves if they are in or not between God and them personally, which will be known when God decides that,. not anyone else is how I see to remain in God's rest, not accuse or excuse as flesh nature still does that
God from day one had Mercy, did not kill either of them and lives us all
As So Paul asked to not ever sin again
God came back with
"My grace is sufficient for you" I bet for you too, so be thankful, you need God. If anyone ever even thinks they got it, then that person will not need God will they
So I see to glory in my iniquities, how about you? and all others reading this truth too
 
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We've already been judged in Christ

Truly, truly, I say to you, The one who hears my word, and believes the one who has sent me, has everlasting life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. John 5:24
Thanks
That judgement took place at the cross of Son Jesus for us all to get reconciled as forgiven
2 Cor 5:16-20 tells me this truth and to be reconciled back to God in thanksgiving and praise and ask for the new life in the risen Son to be new in as born again from God Father in God's Spirit and Truth, the Holy Spirit
 
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there seem to be a kind of jufgement for works but also one for actual judgement is there not?
there is a sin unto death, which is to me " unbelief" to God's love and mercy through Son for me"
I see that is all that got left after the death, which was to reconcile everyone unto Father as forgiven reconciled first. Then either the new life gets imputed to the one's that will not stop belief to see or not, depending on one's anyones motive(s)
So ask self why you believe God?
Is it for here and now? Is it to get a wife or husband? Is it for riches?
Or is it for life everlasting to get given to you by God for you?
It is personally between God and you, not you or me and everyone else as well, thank you
Love God's type, 1 Cor 13:4-7, most go through 1 Cor 13:1-3 first and many get stuck in 1 Cor 13:8-12 not seeing verse 13 Love lasts forever God's type y'all ask for that from God to work that love through you to all, thank you
 
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Does Hebrews 9:27 include God's elect?

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
As soon as anyone dies, their judgement happens to wait for the great white throne judgment or not. Those in that great white throne are judged of works done and these done works better be better than that of the Pharisees (Matt 5:20)
Moses, we see skipped that along with Elijah in that transfiguration when Christ was on the mountain, Peter saw Moses and Elijah and wanted to build tabernacles
There are many people that have made it
Yet none have by any of their own works ever. God is pleased in the done work of Son, proven as risen. Time for us all to believe God in risen Son where new life gets given and enacted through us in love and mercy to all, at least for me
So in belief and from God's gift of Son we are risen, religion keeps people captivated as not yet. creates sin in people to have rule over them, by putting people under Law, that Paul fought deeply against this happening.
Romans 6,7,8 reveal that to me.
Hoping and in trust to Father in the Holy Spirit for this to get revealed to you too
 
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I believe that God's elect were already judged and justified in the first world age when they stood against Lucifer, Isa 14:12-16. That is why God uses them in this world age to bring forth his word and fight against Satan. He chose Jeremiah as His prophet. Jer 1:5-8. He also chose John the Baptist, Luke 1:13-17 and Paul was also a chosen vessel, Acts 9:15-16. There were many others throughout the bible who were chosen to serve God....Abraham, Moses, Samuel, David, all the judges, prophets and apostles and of course Jesus who was God with us, Isa 9:6. The elect will also stand against Antichrist when he comes claiming to be God, II Thes 2:3-4. When they are delivered up before him they will testify against him and expose his lies with the Holy Spirit speaking through them. Math 10:18-20. God chose his elect worthy to serve him in this world age because they weren't deceived by Lucifer.
 
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there is a sin unto death, which is to me " unbelief" to God's love and mercy through Son for me"
I see that is all that got left after the death, which was to reconcile everyone unto Father as forgiven reconciled first. Then either the new life gets imputed to the one's that will not stop belief to see or not, depending on one's anyones motive(s)
So ask self why you believe God?
Is it for here and now? Is it to get a wife or husband? Is it for riches?
Or is it for life everlasting to get given to you by God for you?
It is personally between God and you, not you or me and everyone else as well, thank you
Love God's type, 1 Cor 13:4-7, most go through 1 Cor 13:1-3 first and many get stuck in 1 Cor 13:8-12 not seeing verse 13 Love lasts forever God's type y'all ask for that from God to work that love through you to all, thank you
If you have not ever heard or read the book called " The Naked Gospel". by Andrew Farley. I find it a good read much info to look at and see new in four me at least, thanks Blain
 
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Remember the Jesus told of the rich man and Lazarus who was a beggar. Jesus says they both then died.

(Lk 16:2226) "So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried.
"And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
"Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' "But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 'And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.'

So we see that at death, there will be a separation between the faithful and the unfaithful, and this happens before the final judgement. Its a holding place for both until the judgement. So there is some kind of judgement that takes place at death, but this is not the final judgement, which is not a trial, but a sentencing for how we lived our life.

(Rom 2:5-7) But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who "will render to each one according to his deeds": eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;