what is grace?

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Blain

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It is argued that there are people who live in his grace that they live in a state of hyper grace a free ticket to sin and still be in Christ, on the other hand some believe in not sinnings at all perfectionism then again others work hard to live in righteousness and are aware they sin but seem to not be concerned.

I wonder is grace a blanket to fall on when we screw up or rather is it empowerment to overcome sin?

I believe empowerment to overcome sin while knowing when we slip up we rest in his forgiveness fits the bill, sin has no power in Christ and if his grace is forgiceness of sin then we can be emowered to overcome sin
 
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Grace space

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creation shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:37-39
 

Pilgrimshope

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It is argued that there are people who live in his grace that they live in a state of hyper grace a free ticket to sin and still be in Christ, on the other hand some believe in not sinnings at all perfectionism then again others work hard to live in righteousness and are aware they sin but seem to not be concerned.

I wonder is grace a blanket to fall on when we screw up or rather is it empowerment to overcome sin?

I believe empowerment to overcome sin while knowing when we slip up we rest in his forgiveness fits the bill, sin has no power in Christ and if his grace is forgiceness of sin then we can be emowered to overcome sin
brother consider why this man was forgiven all his debt

“Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. ( everyone will be judged according to thier deeds )

And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his Lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. ( the man owes more than he can pay for so he and his family are to be sold )

The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. ( the man has reached a point of repentance from his heart )

Then the Lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt. “
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭18:23-27, 34‬ ‭KJV‬‬

wow what a merciful and loving Lord but then after this happens the same man

“But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest. And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.

( the man refused to share the mercy and grace which saved him after he was already forgiven all his debt by the lord his actions then are reported to the lord )

So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their Lord all that was done. Then his Lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: ( he’s acknolwedging he had forgiven the debt )

shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?

And his Lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.


So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭18:28-35‬ ‭KJV‬‬

What I’m meaning to share with you brother is under grace Jesus teachings rule the day and grace becomes reciprocal . How we treat others as Christian’s , how we judge others and forgive others is the measire of judgement we also ourselves will receive when it’s time to face the lord

We can walk in the spirit of grace and mercy taught in the gospel by the lord and judge of all

Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom.

For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:36-38‬

Jesus taught this a lot how we judge and treat other people is going to be reflected in our own judgement day we can walk in the word of Christ that gives us liberty and freedom and offers mercy and grace like above there and so this day comes with the knowledge that because I’m imperfect , and need mercy , I also need to treat others with that same measure of grace and patience and compassion and forebearance

“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

If I follow Jesus ways of mercy and forgiving others then also I have his promise of forgiveness for my own sins
Which I fail and fall at times and are the exception and not the rule to live by as I follow the lords ways I can expect mercy and grace when it comes to judgement


Gods true grace brother is found in the lords teachings in the gospel and changes everything

“So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.”
‭‭James‬ ‭2:12-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

be merciful and you’ll receive mercy is for sinners yet to be perfected as we are , a well in the desert because it comes with Christs judgement that if we forgive we’ll be forgiven if we don’t condemn we won’t be condemned if we don’t judge others we won’t be judged ourselves if we give mercy it will be given To us

We tend to tie obedience back to Moses law but it’s meant to go to Jesus teachings which are vastly different
 

Blain

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Grace space

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creation shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:37-39
well said so why do you think it needs to be that big? obviously yes we will sometimes slip up but for it to be that massive there has to be a reason
 

lrs68

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The moment we are saved God begins a work in us until our last breath. In other words, God is molding us to become more like God is. But in that process of becoming what we are to become there will be a multitude of mistakes and sins we make. Grace is God not throwing us away when we sin but He continues to keep working so we become more like Him.
 
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Grace means "gift".
Grace in the NT essentially refers to God's gift of salvation (EPH 2:8, RM 3:24, 5:2),
or to God's power to save (ACTS 4:33, 6:8, 11:23, 13:43, 14:3&26, 15:11&40, 18:27 & 20:24&32).

Paul also uses the term referring to abilities related to ministry (1CR 3:10, 15:10)
and as a word of greeting akin to love (RM 1:7, 1CR 1:3, GL 1:3, etc.).
In 2CR 8:1-9), Paul uses grace when referring to the contribution he was seeking for the Christians in Jerusalem.
 
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I believe empowerment to overcome sin while knowing when we slip up we rest in his forgiveness fits the bill, sin has no power in Christ and if his grace is forgiceness of sin then we can be emowered to overcome sin
Yes, truth that is, thank you, yet when one does overcome if does, one will not take any credit to self or will they?
Pride and guilt is against God in my honest sight seeing presently
God took away sin John 1:29, John 19:30 for belief to this truth done by Son for us Hebrews 10:10 to those that once believe God see, watch sin be left behind by God's done work of Son for us to be humble in that, in thanksgiving and praise all sin taken away as far as the east is from the west
Amazing gift this is, that one can either take for granted or use it in appreciation
no matter, no one can separate Anyone from this love of God in risen Son for us to rest in thanksgiving and praise to it thanks, Blain for the post
 

Blain

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Yes, truth that is, thank you, yet when one does overcome if does, one will not take any credit to self or will they?
Pride and guilt is against God in my honest sight seeing presently
God took away sin John 1:29, John 19:30 for belief to this truth done by Son for us Hebrews 10:10 to those that once believe God see, watch sin be left behind by God's done work of Son for us to be humble in that, in thanksgiving and praise all sin taken away as far as the east is from the west
Amazing gift this is, that one can either take for granted or use it in appreciation
no matter, no one can separate Anyone from this love of God in risen Son for us to rest in thanksgiving and praise to it thanks, Blain for the post
 

Magenta

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Grace space

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creation shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:37-39

Romans 8:38-39 Psalm 91:11 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor principalities, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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Romans 8:38-39 Psalm 91:11 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor principalities, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
:)
I am as well convinced, thanking you for seeing it too with Father and Son as Won (One) for us to stand in belief to this truth given us, wow!
 

Cameron143

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Grace is when you get something you haven't earned. Mercy is the flip side of grace; when we don't get what we do deserve.
 
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Blessed are those that are not given what are deserved to get given, thanks to God's love and mercy for us, those that believe see this eventually, at least me thanks
 
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It is argued that there are people who live in his grace that they live in a state of hyper grace a free ticket to sin and still be in Christ, on the other hand some believe in not sinnings at all perfectionism then again others work hard to live in righteousness and are aware they sin but seem to not be concerned.

I wonder is grace a blanket to fall on when we screw up or rather is it empowerment to overcome sin?

I believe empowerment to overcome sin while knowing when we slip up we rest in his forgiveness fits the bill, sin has no power in Christ and if his grace is forgiceness of sin then we can be emowered to overcome sin
Titus 2:11-14
11 For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. 12 It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, 13 while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.

Thats grace.