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Blain

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There is something I want to add on being stationary as a Christian, I don't think that all stationary believers are fully stationary some I think have just gotten complacent in their walk and may not even realize it or perhaps some just don't really see it and are fine with doing the bare minimal.

But a true believer never loses that hunger that passion and awe for God I mean he is so deep and so fascinating that we can never fully know him but even so if one loses that wonder and hunger for him they can slowly slide into the stationary status and just be fine with where they are in their walk

Still though some might wake up from their sleepy state
 
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There is something I want to add on being stationary as a Christian, I don't think that all stationary believers are fully stationary some I think have just gotten complacent in their walk and may not even realize it or perhaps some just don't really see it and are fine with doing the bare minimal.

But a true believer never loses that hunger that passion and awe for God I mean he is so deep and so fascinating that we can never fully know him but even so if one loses that wonder and hunger for him they can slowly slide into the stationary status and just be fine with where they are in their walk

Still though some might wake up from their sleepy state
Yes, Jesus said those who hunger for righteousness are blessed and they will be filled (in MT 5:6), presumably with spiritual bread or "every word that comes from the mouth of God" (MT 4:4).

Thus, malnutrition or complacency is avoided by LGW per EPH 4:11-15.
 

Blain

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Yes, Jesus said those who hunger for righteousness are blessed and they will be filled (in MT 5:6), presumably with spiritual bread or "every word that comes from the mouth of God" (MT 4:4).

Thus, malnutrition or complacency is avoided by LGW per EPH 4:11-15.
The word rhema comes to mind lately do you know that word? it is an utterence or thing spoken. in particular it the deeper hidden meaning of something when we read his word rema is being spoken and he opens our eyes to the deeper layers of his word but it requires that unyielding desire for the truth
 
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I am assuming that by stationary you mean not moving, fixed in place, or unchanging in condition. If so, then this is the primary reason why I believe so many people who profess to know Christ are stationary.

1Pe 1:22
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
1Pe 1:23
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
1Pe 1:24
For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
1Pe 1:25
But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
1Pe 2:1
Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,
1Pe 2:2
As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
1Pe 2:3
If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

In other words, they have never truly been born again, or they have never truly tasted of the real grace of God that brings salvation.

Tit 2:11
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Tit 2:13
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Tit 2:14
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Tit 2:15
These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

Denying ungodliness and worldly lusts?
Living soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world?
Being redeemed from all iniquity or from that which is unequal to God's ways?
Being purified unto God as a peculiar people who are zealous of good works?

Brother, I said this little sinner's prayer, and now I am once saved, always saved!

The true born again Christian will initially have a strong desire for the milk of God's word that they might grow thereby. They will eventually graduate to eating the meat of God's word as they ever press towards growing up unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ (Eph. 4:13). Good luck trying to budge somebody who was never told that they needed to budge while receiving a false gospel presentation. Such folks might be looking for the blessed hope, but their beliefs surrounding that are usually messed up as well (the great escape).

In essence, this is the gospel message which they have embraced.

Say this little prayer, and you never need to change. If anybody tells you that you need to change, then they are a Pharisaical promoter of works salvation. Just believe, and when things get rough in the world, God will rapture you out of it.

How can someone move from the stationary category to being a true follower of Jesus Christ?

Heb 5:12
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Heb 5:13
For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Heb 5:14
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Heb 6:1
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Heb 6:2
Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Heb 6:3
And this will we do, if God permit.

By examining themselves to see if they have ever truly embraced the first principles of the oracles of God or the principles of the doctrine of Christ. And what are those first principles?

Repentance from dead works.
Faith towards God.
The doctrine of baptisms (water and Holy Ghost).
The laying on of hands.
The resurrection of the dead.
Eternal judgment.

Do you know how many people who profess to know Christ I have personally encountered who don't even believe in repentance from dead works? Thousands of them.

Brother, repentance is only a change of mind!

Do you know how many people who profess to know Christ I have personally encountered who don't even believe in the doctrine of baptisms? Thousands of them.

Brother, I don't need to be water baptized! That's works salvation!

And on and on it goes.
I see all have the makings of first birth, to be made alive in God's Spirit and Truth in love and mercy, If or since God permits it!
That word used in Hebrews 6:3 the word "IF" could have been translated "as "Since" God will permit this.
I see from Greek original translation the word in Greek can mean If or Since

I see, God permits us to see truth to believe it or not, that begins at reconciliation first. The Disciples had got given the message of reconciliation 2 Cor 5:16-20 to give us, to then work out our salvation from God given through risen Son for us to love all, over the few I see many do only love few, me past tense been guilty of that too. So find out what is true Love from God as in 1 Cor 13:4-7 to me and us all
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There is something I want to add on being stationary as a Christian, I don't think that all stationary believers are fully stationary some I think have just gotten complacent in their walk and may not even realize it or perhaps some just don't really see it and are fine with doing the bare minimal.

But a true believer never loses that hunger that passion and awe for God I mean he is so deep and so fascinating that we can never fully know him but even so if one loses that wonder and hunger for him they can slowly slide into the stationary status and just be fine with where they are in their walk

Still though some might wake up from their sleepy state
There are those that can't be moved, will not deny God, no matter what happens to them. There are those that will not believe God either,
God knows whom is whom and what is what, I stand in this trust to God Father and Son, in the same love given me from God through Son as risen
I am Stationary in this truth I believe to be in given this from God Father to me to stand in
Ezekiel 36:26
A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Colossians 1:21
And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
Colossians 1:22
in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

God did it y'all did it all for you, you, me and all others too, it is done for you in between /God and you to be new in love and mercy to all, the same as God gives you free of charge forever

I am "Stationary" in this gift God gives to all that choose to believe God to see over time in being given the ability to now discern truth over errors here in this world we all are in
Daily learning daily trusting God to reveal truth to me and y'all as well
Thanks Blain
Believe God in the done work of Son for you, be reconciled back to God willingly to see willingly to change too in the same love and mercy given thee, over others that do not see it, it is the love of God that overcomes evil, nothing else could or can thanks, at least from the view given me to see this amazing grace given to all to choose whom they will serve willingly or by forced manipulating The Spirit of God to the Spirit of flesh, time to choose thank you it is ultimately between God and you
 

Blain

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There are those that can't be moved, will not deny God, no matter what happens to them. There are those that will not believe God either,
God knows whom is whom and what is what, I stand in this trust to God Father and Son, in the same love given me from God through Son as risen
I am Stationary in this truth I believe to be in given this from God Father to me to stand in
Ezekiel 36:26
A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Colossians 1:21
And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
Colossians 1:22
in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

God did it y'all did it all for you, you, me and all others too, it is done for you in between /God and you to be new in love and mercy to all, the same as God gives you free of charge forever

I am "Stationary" in this gift God gives to all that choose to believe God to see over time in being given the ability to now discern truth over errors here in this world we all are in
Daily learning daily trusting God to reveal truth to me and y'all as well
Thanks Blain
Believe God in the done work of Son for you, be reconciled back to God willingly to see willingly to change too in the same love and mercy given thee, over others that do not see it, it is the love of God that overcomes evil, nothing else could or can thanks, at least from the view given me to see this amazing grace given to all to choose whom they will serve willingly or by forced manipulating The Spirit of God to the Spirit of flesh, time to choose thank you it is ultimately between God and you
Yes there is a good kind of stationary, fantastic post
 
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Yes there is a good kind of stationary
If we truly believe that we will receive glorified bodies at Christ's return, or if we truly believe that Christ has given us victory over death, then we ought to be stedfast and unmovable/immovable in our hearts while always abounding in the work of the Lord.

1Co 15:50
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1Co 15:51
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53
For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54
So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Co 15:55
O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1Co 15:56
The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
1Co 15:57
But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1Co 15:58
Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
 

Blain

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If we truly believe that we will receive glorified bodies at Christ's return, or if we truly believe that Christ has given us victory over death, then we ought to be stedfast and unmovable/immovable in our hearts while always abounding in the work of the Lord.

1Co 15:50
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1Co 15:51
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53
For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54
So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Co 15:55
O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1Co 15:56
The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
1Co 15:57
But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1Co 15:58
Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
And you are doing his work even now my friend every post you have made has reasonated in me and hopefully others as well.
 
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And you are doing his work even now my friend every post you have made has reasonated in me and hopefully others as well.
I hope so because I honestly have wondered many times if all the different posts I have made on different websites over the years haven't collectively amounted to a big, fat zero. Thanks for the encouragement.
 

Blain

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I hope so because I honestly have wondered many times if all the different posts I have made on different websites over the years haven't collectively amounted to a big, fat zero. Thanks for the encouragement.
never underestimate the power words have one day you will see how far your words went and I am sure you will be surprised.
 
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And you are doing his work even now my friend every post you have made has reasonated in me and hopefully others as well.
Blain, since 1CR 15:58, "Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord" is such an excellent basis for reference to a stationary Christian, maybe the better name for this thread would be "stagnant Christian"?

(Or in keeping with my "both-and" preference: Stationary & Stagnant Christians :^)
 

Blain

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Blain, since 1CR 15:58, "Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord" is such an excellent basis for reference to a stationary Christian, maybe the better name for this thread would be "stagnant Christian"?

(Or in keeping with my "both-and" preference: Stationary & Stagnant Christians :^)
you know that is pretty good that verse perfectly describes it maybe a stationary christian is a hood thing you got it perfectly and stagnet christian fits what I was describing very keen of you
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Karlon

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easy enough. that kind of Christian is a backslider, lazy, bored & without ambition. said person needs motivation immediately.
 
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never underestimate the power words have one day you will see how far your words went and I am sure you will be surprised.
Pleasantly surprised, I hope. Please consider this:

Eph 4:11
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12
For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Eph 4:14
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Eph 4:15
But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
Eph 4:16
From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

In the various ways which I have sought to teach others over the years, whether verbally or in writing, I think that I can confidently say that I have expressed things pertaining to the gospel in millions of words. And what has been the result of all of those words? Are my hearers/readers now doing the work of the ministry? Have they truly been edified or built up in their faith? Are we (they and I) now unified in the faith? Have I truly helped any of them to grow in the direction of the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ, or are they still children who are tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine which is brought forth by deceivers? Are they truly functioning as members of the body of Christ so that every part might make increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love?

Granted, I know that I can only plant and water, but when I look at the overall picture of my body of work for the Lord, then, as far as I can tell, I have only positively affected a tiny handful of people. Like somewhere between 2 to 4 people. Of course, others might have come behind me in some instances and watered what I had previously sown, and God may have provided increase in some such instances (John 4:34-38), but I really will not know that until the day of reckoning.

Anyhow, I am not mentioning these things to make this thread about me, but instead to hopefully stir others to question what their own motives are. Do they really seek to edify others here or to tear them down, proudly and gleefully, instead? I cannot answer that question for anybody else, but there really does not seem to be too much speaking the truth in love transpiring in this particular section of the forum, and from what I have read of your posts, you seem to have drawn this same sad conclusion yourself. Quite frankly, on some threads which I have recently read, I have been sickened by the attitudes of people there, and that includes the attitudes of those who I deem to be in the right. In other words, even though they might have the correct doctrine, there is something terribly wrong with their attitudes towards those who disagree with them, but I trust that you have already recognized the same yourself.
 
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Read all for yourselves if interested ---I just posted this part

A stationary Christian has a sickness of identity, Pope reflects

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...tian-has-a-sickness-of-identity-pope-reflects

a Christian that remains stationary is sick, in their Christian identity, has some illness in his identity. The Christian is a disciple to walk, to move,"

Christians who have "a whiny temper" and "that always live like this, complaining, about everything, sad," don't do any favors for "the Lord or the Church," the pontiff continued, adding that "this is not the style of the disciple."
 

Blain

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Pleasantly surprised, I hope. Please consider this:

Eph 4:11
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12
For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Eph 4:14
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Eph 4:15
But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
Eph 4:16
From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

In the various ways which I have sought to teach others over the years, whether verbally or in writing, I think that I can confidently say that I have expressed things pertaining to the gospel in millions of words. And what has been the result of all of those words? Are my hearers/readers now doing the work of the ministry? Have they truly been edified or built up in their faith? Are we (they and I) now unified in the faith? Have I truly helped any of them to grow in the direction of the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ, or are they still children who are tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine which is brought forth by deceivers? Are they truly functioning as members of the body of Christ so that every part might make increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love?

Granted, I know that I can only plant and water, but when I look at the overall picture of my body of work for the Lord, then, as far as I can tell, I have only positively affected a tiny handful of people. Like somewhere between 2 to 4 people. Of course, others might have come behind me in some instances and watered what I had previously sown, and God may have provided increase in some such instances (John 4:34-38), but I really will not know that until the day of reckoning.

Anyhow, I am not mentioning these things to make this thread about me, but instead to hopefully stir others to question what their own motives are. Do they really seek to edify others here or to tear them down, proudly and gleefully, instead? I cannot answer that question for anybody else, but there really does not seem to be too much speaking the truth in love transpiring in this particular section of the forum, and from what I have read of your posts, you seem to have drawn this same sad conclusion yourself. Quite frankly, on some threads which I have recently read, I have been sickened by the attitudes of people there, and that includes the attitudes of those who I deem to be in the right. In other words, even though they might have the correct doctrine, there is something terribly wrong with their attitudes towards those who disagree with them, but I trust that you have already recognized the same yourself.
Believe me I know I often wonder the same things I just try to plant the seeds never really seeing any results sometimes I ask God if I am even doing good enough because it seems to me it's just no fruit showing no results.

But then he says to me do you have faith? and I said yes and he says to me Now faith is the evidence of things not seen so I kinda walked right into that one
 
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Believe me I know I often wonder the same things I just try to plant the seeds never really seeing any results sometimes I ask God if I am even doing good enough because it seems to me it's just no fruit showing no results.

But then he says to me do you have faith? and I said yes and he says to me Now faith is the evidence of things not seen so I kinda walked right into that one
If we look to the following prophecy concerning Christ, then we come to realize that Jesus struggled with thoughts that his own labor was all in vain or for naught.

Isa 49:1
Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.
Isa 49:2
And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me;
Isa 49:3
And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.
Isa 49:4
Then I said, I have laboured in vain, I have spent my strength for nought, and in vain: yet surely my judgment is with the LORD, and my work with my God.
Isa 49:5
And now, saith the LORD that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the LORD, and my God shall be my strength.
Isa 49:6
And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

Jesus is God's salvation unto the end of the earth, and he felt that he had labored in vain and spent his strength for naught, so we shouldn't really be surprised if we, his servants who are not greater than our Lord, feel the same way.

To keep myself motivated, I often reflect on the words of Solomon which I recently quoted somewhere (probably on this thread).

Ecc 11:6
In the morning sow thy seed, and in the evening withhold not thine hand: for thou knowest not whether shall prosper, either this or that, or whether they both shall be alike good.

In other words, I try to scatter good seed wherever I go. Whether or not it will prosper, I honestly do not know.

Here is a link to a limerick that I wrote yesterday which describes how I usually feel while attempting to plant seeds in this particular section of the forum.

https://christianchat.com/christian-poems-poetry/limericks.217418/page-2#post-5430488

It is what it is.
 

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What does a stationary Christian look like? and how does one know if they have become one?
If we look inside ourselves truthfully can we honestly say we are not stationary? what would be the definition or fruits of someone who has grown stationary how would we tell if one is and what can we do to change it?

This came up in a conversation with a friend and I just felt like it would be a good topic to discuss as well as self reflect
The stationary Christian is the one who is not living fully in the law of liberty.
Sometimes we forget what Jesus actually did for us.
 
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The stationary Christian is the one who is not living fully in the law of liberty.
That is definitely part of the problem.
Sometimes we forget what Jesus actually did for us.
I'll do you one better. Most people have no clue what Jesus has truly accomplished for them because it is not being accurately taught in most churches. If I hadn't read the Bible for myself as many times as I have, then I would be living in all sorts of bondages right now. In fact, I might even be dead, and I am not joking. In other words, the only way that I learned what Jesus truly accomplished for me was by reading the Bible myself while asking the Holy Spirit to be my teacher.
 

Blain

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If we look to the following prophecy concerning Christ, then we come to realize that Jesus struggled with thoughts that his own labor was all in vain or for naught.

Isa 49:1
Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.
Isa 49:2
And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me;
Isa 49:3
And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.
Isa 49:4
Then I said, I have laboured in vain, I have spent my strength for nought, and in vain: yet surely my judgment is with the LORD, and my work with my God.
Isa 49:5
And now, saith the LORD that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the LORD, and my God shall be my strength.
Isa 49:6
And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

Jesus is God's salvation unto the end of the earth, and he felt that he had labored in vain and spent his strength for naught, so we shouldn't really be surprised if we, his servants who are not greater than our Lord, feel the same way.

To keep myself motivated, I often reflect on the words of Solomon which I recently quoted somewhere (probably on this thread).

Ecc 11:6
In the morning sow thy seed, and in the evening withhold not thine hand: for thou knowest not whether shall prosper, either this or that, or whether they both shall be alike good.

In other words, I try to scatter good seed wherever I go. Whether or not it will prosper, I honestly do not know.

Here is a link to a limerick that I wrote yesterday which describes how I usually feel while attempting to plant seeds in this particular section of the forum.

https://christianchat.com/christian-poems-poetry/limericks.217418/page-2#post-5430488

It is what it is.
I understand how you feel just remember twe do this to setve not to see the results of our labot if we get to see it I won't lie it would really cheer me up but don't worry you will see the fruits of your labor soon enough