Turkish Christian looking for advice

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Hello all İm Turkish and new to the Christian religion. First of all my family is secular Muslim and İ have atheist brother so İm safe dont worry. So recently İ took interest on the Christian religion more specifically Orthodox Christianity and İ looked some stuff but dude no idea how to explain. Can you give resources or something to help İ find tons of weird stuff online for some reason so İ want to get good info thanks my name is Murat
 

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Hello Murat

I have been a Christian for over 30 years.. I became a Christian in my early 20's.. I became a Christian because a work friend gave me a Bible to read and it read it all.. I am not an Orthodox or a Catholic.. You can call me a Protestant if you like.. So my advice to you is to get yourself a Turkish Bible.. One with 66 books.. Maybe you can find one online.. There are Audio Bibles in Turkish also.. I don't know how good your English is? If it is good enough to understand an English Bible..

I would most strongly suggest you read all the New Testament and remember to pray to God asking Him for understanding every time you start a reading session..

May the Holy Spirit guide you and may you always follow His leading..
 

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İ took interest on the Christian religion more specifically Orthodox Christianity
@Eli1 can be very helpful to you in answering questions about Orthodox Christianity.

Meanwhile, please check out the Alpha Course.




There are 10 videos total. I hope you watch them. They could benefit you greatly .:)
 

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Hello all İm Turkish and new to the Christian religion. First of all my family is secular Muslim and İ have atheist brother so İm safe dont worry. So recently İ took interest on the Christian religion more specifically Orthodox Christianity and İ looked some stuff but dude no idea how to explain. Can you give resources or something to help İ find tons of weird stuff online for some reason so İ want to get good info thanks my name is Murat
Hello Murat.
Here’s some general info from the Orthidox Church of America: https://www.oca.org/orthodoxy

Is there a local church in your town?
Maybe you can stop by and ask for a Bible in Turkish.
That would be my first step.
You could even talk to the local priests there for any general questions but if you have anything specific to ask, I can try to help you.
That link above is some general info about the church.
God bless you.
 
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Hello Murat

I have been a Christian for over 30 years.. I became a Christian in my early 20's.. I became a Christian because a work friend gave me a Bible to read and it read it all.. I am not an Orthodox or a Catholic.. You can call me a Protestant if you like.. So my advice to you is to get yourself a Turkish Bible.. One with 66 books.. Maybe you can find one online.. There are Audio Bibles in Turkish also.. I don't know how good your English is? If it is good enough to understand an English Bible..

I would most strongly suggest you read all the New Testament and remember to pray to God asking Him for understanding every time you start a reading session..

May the Holy Spirit guide you and may you always follow His leading..
Thanks there are some Turkish Bibles online so no problem but İ will try to get some physical one also. And reading all New Testement that will take time haha but İ can try
 
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Hello Murat.
Here’s some general info from the Orthidox Church of America: https://www.oca.org/orthodoxy

Is there a local church in your town?
Maybe you can stop by and ask for a Bible in Turkish.
That would be my first step.
You could even talk to the local priests there for any general questions but if you have anything specific to ask, I can try to help you.
That link above is some general info about the church.
God bless you.
Thanks and yes İ know there is Bulgarian Orthodox Church here in Edirne because its close to Bulgarian border and yes will try to go there and get Turkish Bible
 

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Thanks and yes İ know there is Bulgarian Orthodox Church here in Edirne because its close to Bulgarian border and yes will try to go there and get Turkish Bible
You can ask the local priest there any general questions you might have, and everyone here, myself included can answer any other specific questions you might have later.
God bless you in your journey and may God keep you healthy and safe.
 

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Hi Murat so glad you are joining the CC Forums and fellowship! God bless & keep you and Happy New Year!
 
Dec 29, 2024
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You can ask the local priest there any general questions you might have, and everyone here, myself included can answer any other specific questions you might have later.
God bless you in your journey and may God keep you healthy and safe.
So İ was telling my parents that İ will go to Church next Sunday and after some explanation they accepted. My brother also was hearing what İ said from distance and like is usual for him he started making many stupid questions but one of his questions entered my head, and this question was why go to Bulgarian Church if İm not Bulgarian, İ tried to explain this is Church of Bulgarian origin but it was not enough for my brother and he continued pushing until İ appeared like a fool so maybe some more cautious explanation can be useful
 

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So İ was telling my parents that İ will go to Church next Sunday and after some explanation they accepted. My brother also was hearing what İ said from distance and like is usual for him he started making many stupid questions but one of his questions entered my head, and this question was why go to Bulgarian Church if İm not Bulgarian, İ tried to explain this is Church of Bulgarian origin but it was not enough for my brother and he continued pushing until İ appeared like a fool so maybe some more cautious explanation can be useful
He makes a good point especially knowing your culture.
It takes a lot of unshakable faith in your country to be comfortable with other churches, especially Greek ones.
Are there any other genuine Turkish Christian churches in your area? Including Catholic?
For example in Albania, we have Eastern Orthodox Churches which are native to the country for centuries.
Do you have anything like that in Turkey?
 
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He makes a good point especially knowing your culture.
It takes a lot of unshakable faith in your country to be comfortable with other churches, especially Greek ones.
Are there any other genuine Turkish Christian churches in your area? Including Catholic?
For example in Albania, we have Eastern Orthodox Churches which are native to the country for centuries.
Do you have anything like that in Turkey?
There is autonomous Turkish Orthodox Church but its süper small and not on my city, Turkish Orthodox Christians always been under Greek patriarchy. There is historic Catholic Church here in Edirne also but its been defunct for long time and Protestant Churches İ dont have interest, İ have nothing against Protestants personally but the stuff that İ heared about them is that they are very factionalized, not sure if this word exists but you get the idea,someone does something and says they follow Biblical Christianity and next to him other someone does something different and says they follow Biblical Christianity and the other is a liar so you feel very conflicted all the day about what is true Christianity. So the only option is Bulgarian Church
 

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There is autonomous Turkish Orthodox Church but its süper small and not on my city, Turkish Orthodox Christians always been under Greek patriarchy. There is historic Catholic Church here in Edirne also but its been defunct for long time and Protestant Churches İ dont have interest, İ have nothing against Protestants personally but the stuff that İ heared about them is that they are very factionalized, not sure if this word exists but you get the idea,someone does something and says they follow Biblical Christianity and next to him other someone does something different and says they follow Biblical Christianity and the other is a liar so you feel very conflicted all the day about what is true Christianity. So the only option is Bulgarian Church
I hear you friend, things are not so simple and easy but I hope you grow in-Christ so you can walk into any land through fire if you have to.
God bless you !
 
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So İ was telling my parents that İ will go to Church next Sunday and after some explanation they accepted. My brother also was hearing what İ said from distance and like is usual for him he started making many stupid questions but one of his questions entered my head, and this question was why go to Bulgarian Church if İm not Bulgarian, İ tried to explain this is Church of Bulgarian origin but it was not enough for my brother and he continued pushing until İ appeared like a fool so maybe some more cautious explanation can be useful
There is only one race: the human race. Christianity is not about ethnicity. Your brother sounds like a shameless racist. Or else he was simply bent on embarrassing you. If it is the latter you need to prepare for this type of treatment from him on a more regular basis, as he may continue to seek to shame you for your choice.
 
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There is autonomous Turkish Orthodox Church but its süper small and not on my city, Turkish Orthodox Christians always been under Greek patriarchy. There is historic Catholic Church here in Edirne also but its been defunct for long time and Protestant Churches İ dont have interest, İ have nothing against Protestants personally but the stuff that İ heared about them is that they are very factionalized, not sure if this word exists but you get the idea,someone does something and says they follow Biblical Christianity and next to him other someone does something different and says they follow Biblical Christianity and the other is a liar so you feel very conflicted all the day about what is true Christianity. So the only option is Bulgarian Church
Protestant Churches:
If there are protestant churches nearby, you needn't worry about visiting them: they aren't really as factionalized as people claim. All protestant churches that are "traditional" (following the traditional fundamentals of the faith), will all agree on the basic fundamentals of the faith. They will only disagree on smaller issues.

Your Atheist Brother:
You can explain to him that in Christianity, nationality is not a component of our belief system. Nationality is not a relevant issue. The gospel is the same in any country, and the fundamentals of the faith are the same in any country. A church in Bulgaria may do a few things differently, or sing different songs, or hold differently to some "secondary" issues... but in any "traditional" church, the fundamentals, and the gospel, will be the same.

Last Thing - Reality:
Because all churches you visit are run by humans, and humans are fallen creatures, they will all be imperfect. Some churches have better teaching, and better leadership than others... but none are capable of being perfect.

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Hello all İm Turkish and new to the Christian religion. First of all my family is secular Muslim and İ have atheist brother so İm safe dont worry. So recently İ took interest on the Christian religion more specifically Orthodox Christianity and İ looked some stuff but dude no idea how to explain. Can you give resources or something to help İ find tons of weird stuff online for some reason so İ want to get good info thanks my name is Murat
Hello my Friend. welcome to the Apostolic churches.
its good that you choose a faith that can trace its roots back to the Apostles of Jesus Christ, you are on the right track.

When you find a Bible, find a Orthodox Bible with 76 books, do not buy a protestant book with 66 books, they removed the other books in the reformation.
The old Church fathers quoted those books that the protestants reject today.
do yourself a favour and follow the early Church which is 2000 years old and not the 500 year old church that was made by man.

One of the Books that are not in the protestant Bible, but is in both The Catholic and Orthodox Bible is BARUCH
here is 3 examples of the early Church quoting it like any other scripture!:

Clement of Alexandria A.D 230.
Saint John Chrysostom: A.D 407

Saint Hilary of Poitiers: A.D 368

Baruch 3:13
If You Had Obeyed
Threats, Exhortations and Pardon Are Blessings.
Clement of Alexandria: A.D 215
And still another form of instruction is benediction. “And blessed is he,” he says by David, “who has not sinned; and he shall be as the tree planted near the channels of the waters, which will yield its fruit in its season, and its leaf shall not wither”—which is an allusion to the resurrection—“and whatever he will do will prosper with him.” [Psa 1:1-3.]This is what he wants us to be so that we may be blessed. Again, showing the opposite scale of the balance of justice, he says, “But not so the ungodly—not so; but as the dust that the wind sweeps away from the face of the earth.” [Psa 1:4.] By showing the punishment of sinners and how easily they are dissipated and carried off by the wind, the Teacher [Christ.] dissuades us from crime by means of punishment. And, by holding up the penalty we deserve, he shows the goodness of his beneficence in the most skillful way in order that we may possess and enjoy its blessings. He invites us to knowledge also when he says by the mouth of Jeremiah, “If you had walked in the way of God, you would have lived forever in peace.” Thus, when he exhibits the reward of knowledge here, he invites those who are wise to its love. And, granting pardon to him who has erred, he says, “Turn, turn, as a grape gatherer to his basket.” [Jer 6:9.] Do you see the goodness of justice, in that it counsels to repentance? Christ the Educator 1.10.92.1-3. [CTP 181:117-18.]

Here is two more from the Early Church.

Baruch 3:35
None Can Compare with Our God
Singing the Magnificence of God’s Works.
John Chrysostom: A.D 407
It is ordained that not only we human beings but also the angels, the archangels, the celestial nations and all we who are on earth give praise. “Bless the Lord,” it says, “all you works of his.” [Psa 103:22(102:22 LXX).] His good works are no small achievement; rather, they exceed all speech, intellect and human understanding. The prophets announce these things every day, each in various ways publishing this splendid triumph. One says, “You have gone up on high, you have led captivity captive, and you have received gifts among people.” [Psa 68:19 (67:19 LXX).] And, “The Lord strong and powerful in battle.” [Psa 24:8 (23:8 LXX).] And another says, “He will divide the spoils of the strong.” [Isa 53:12.] For this is why he came, in order to announce freedom to the prisoners and the recovery of sight to the blind. [See Luk 4:18.] And raising aloud the cry of victory against over death, he said, “Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O grave, is your sting?” [1Co 15:55.] And another, in its turn, announcing good news of the most profound peace, said, “They will forge their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks.” [Isa 2:4.] And while one invokes Jerusalem, saying, “Rejoice greatly, daughter of Zion, because your king comes to you, meek, riding on a beast of burden, a young colt,” [Zec 9:9.] another proclaims his second coming, thus saying, “The Lord, whom you seek, will come, and who will abide the day of his coming? Leap as calves set free from their bonds.” [Mal 3:1-2, 20.] And another again, amazed at such similar events, said, “This is our God; no other will be compared with him
.” Homilies on the Gospel of Matthew 19.9. [CTP 170:378.]

Baruch 3:35
None Can Compare with Our God
God Seen on Earth.
Hilary of Poitiers: A.D 368
Listen now to Jeremiah: “This is our God, and there shall be no one else like him who has found out all the way of knowledge and has given it to Jacob his servant and to Israel his beloved. Afterward he showed himself on earth and dwelled among people.” For previously he had said, “And he is human, and who shall know him?” [Jer 17:9 LXX.] Thus you have God seen on earth and dwelling among people. Now I ask you what sense you would assign to “no one has seen God at any time, except the only-begotten Son who is in the bosom of the Father,” [Jhn 1:18.] when Jeremiah proclaims God seen on earth and dwelling among people? The Father most assuredly cannot be seen except by the Son. Who then is this who was seen and lived among us? He must be our God, for he is God visible in human form, whom human beings can handle.
On the Trinity 4.42. [NPNF 2 9:84*.]
 
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When you find a Bible, find a Orthodox Bible with 76 books, do not buy a protestant
book with 66 books, they removed the other books in the reformation.
That is not true and history bears this out. Books were ADDED that had not been considered to be inspired.

Simple research can prove this.