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Hello all, just coming on here to post for the first time. Im struggling with my faith. I do sincerely want to believe, but I just have a hard time believing in Heaven and Hell. Maybe its the fact that reincarnation is a more comfortable and less polar idea to mortal beliefs, or maybe im just stubborn. Either way, could anyone please try to convince me of the two places' existence? I could really use that extra boost of faith and believing in the Lord.
 
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Please check out the Alpha Course.




There are 10 videos total. I hope you watch them. They could benefit you greatly .:)
 

Ballaurena

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1) Be sure you are seeking God for yourself. We can help but we can't substitute for you working out your own salvation with God.

2) Don't take your ideas of heaven and hell from others. Biblical heaven and hell aren't what the media and Christianity throw around, but you shouldn't take my word for it either.

3) Questions to consider are what does the Bible really say about what heaven or hell is, what it is like, how long it lasts, who ends up there, what conditions get someone there, and what chances do they have to avoid it? I recommend word studies if possible too.
 
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Hi, ahouch1n.

The best that any of us could ever do would be to share with you some scriptures on the topics of heaven and hell, but the convincing would need to come from God himself.

When it comes to the topic of heaven, the Bible actually speaks of three heavens.

2Co 12:1
It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.
2Co 12:2
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
2Co 12:3
And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth)
2Co 12:4
How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

The third heaven is the place where paradise presently dwells, and it is the place where God the Father, Jesus, and the righteous dead presently dwell as well.

2Co 5:6
Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
2Co 5:7
(For we walk by faith, not by sight)
2Co 5:8
We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

When a Christian dies, they will be absent from the body, and present with the Lord. In other words, their spirit and their soul will depart to be with the Lord in heaven, and their body will lie in a grave (or be cremated, or whatever) until the time of Christ's second coming when they will receive a glorified body. After receiving their glorified body, they will reign and rule with Christ on this earth (Rev. 5:10), and not in heaven. In other words, heaven is not the Christian's final destination, but a place where their spirit and soul go until the time of Christ's return to this earth with his glorified saints.

When it comes to the topic of hell, there are actually three different Greek words which have been translated into English as hell in the New Testament. One of those Greek words is tartaroō, and it only appears once in the New Testament in the following verse.

2Pe 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

This hell is a place where certain fallen angels are currently being held as they await their final judgment.

Another of those Greek words is hades, and it appears 11 times in the New Testament. One of the more familiar places where it appears is here.

Luk 16:23
And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
Luk 16:24
And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
Luk 16:25
But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

This hell is the place where the wicked dead initially go as they await their final judgment, and according to Jesus, it is a place of torment and flames. This hell (hades) will be cast into the third Greek word for hell, or into geenna, or into the lake of fire at the end of Christ's coming Millennial Reign.

Rev 20:11
And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

This hell is the place where Satan will be cast himself.

Rev 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

According to Jesus, this hell was prepared for the devil and his angels.

Mat 25:41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Pause for a moment and consider all of the evil which has ever transpired in this world because of Satanic and/or demonic influence. Should such evil go unpunished? It will be punished, and it will be punished via the means of everlasting fire.

When it comes to where people will spend eternity, that is based upon what decision they make in this life in relation to Jesus Christ. If they embrace him as their Lord and Savior, then they will spend eternity with him in the kingdom to come. If they reject him, then they will suffer eternally with Satan and his angels because they will have foolishly chosen to follow them instead of Jesus Christ.

Like I said earlier. only God can convince you of the truths surrounding both places, and he will do just that if you simply ask him to.
 

Gideon300

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Hello all, just coming on here to post for the first time. Im struggling with my faith. I do sincerely want to believe, but I just have a hard time believing in Heaven and Hell. Maybe its the fact that reincarnation is a more comfortable and less polar idea to mortal beliefs, or maybe im just stubborn. Either way, could anyone please try to convince me of the two places' existence? I could really use that extra boost of faith and believing in the Lord.
Welcome. The Bible is God's Word. If you accept its authority, it becomes clear that both heaven and hell are spiritual states. Heaven is God's dwelling place and those who are born again will be with God for eternity. Those who reject God's great salvation will spend eternity separated from God. And that is what is known as hell.

Reincarnation may be a comfortable belief. The problem is that reincarnation is false. The Bible declares that we all die and after that, we are judged. There is no reincarnation according to God's word.

That Jesus was born, lived, died and rose again is historical fact. It is recorded in the Bible, attested to by non-Christians and supported by archaeology. The risen Jesus was seen by hundreds of believers who were eyewitnesses. Doubt your doubts! God's word is truth.
 
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Hello all, just coming on here to post for the first time. Im struggling with my faith. I do sincerely want to believe, but I just have a hard time believing in Heaven and Hell. Maybe its the fact that reincarnation is a more comfortable and less polar idea to mortal beliefs, or maybe im just stubborn. Either way, could anyone please try to convince me of the two places' existence? I could really use that extra boost of faith and believing in the Lord.

You believe the soul exists; therefore, you believe in reincarnation. You believe God exist because he created the soul. There are good and evil people in the world; doesn't it make sense that there will be a reward for the good and punishment for the wicked?


How could God forgive the sinner and remain Just? #shorts #billygraham #joy
Even demons don't want to go to hell. #shorts #billygraham #joy
Is There A Hell? | Billy Graham Classic Sermon - YouTube
THERE IS A HELL AND HEAVEN - Billy Graham #billygraham #jesuschrist #hell #heaven #faith #bible #god
Life After Death | Billy Graham Classic - YouTube
 

TabinRivCA

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Glad to meet you and welcome to the CC fellowship! Re Hell I reccomend '23 Minutes in Hell' on YT by Bill Weise. Re Heaven on YT there's a short audio booklet by Rebecca R Springer titled 'Within Heaven's Gates'. Both are fabulous. There's a movie 'Heaven Is Real' that is good also. God bless you and Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!