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Roughsoul1991

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One of my favorite books in the Bible is the book of Hebrews and we don't even objectively know who the author is other than the fact he was either close to the Apostles or an Apostle himself.

His name is purposely left off which some believe was due to the importance of the message with the intention that no one would get distracted over the name of the author.


I find hope in the certainty of God...


Hebrews 6:13-20
New International Version
The Certainty of God’s Promise
13 When God made his promise to Abraham, since there was no one greater for him to swear by, he swore by himself, 14 saying, “I will surely bless you and give you many descendants.” 15 And so after waiting patiently, Abraham received what was promised.


16 People swear by someone greater than themselves, and the oath confirms what is said and puts an end to all argument. 17 Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of what was promised, he confirmed it with an oath. 18 God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged. 19 We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain, 20 where our forerunner, Jesus, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.


An oath was a promise and for God to make an oath was to swear on His very nature of holiness which involves both justice and truth. God is just and in truth, He can not lie.

The promise to the heirs of Abraham would be the birth of the Messiah and with the grafting in of the Gentiles, the promise is extended to all people who put their hope and faith in the Messiah.

Scripture says to “take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged.”

Take hold, grasp tightly, and do not let go in times of trouble as the author encourages verse 28 “we who have fled”. Fled what? The rise in persecution of the early church.

Verse 19, we have this hope as an anchor giving us the image of the security and stability that an anchor provides a ship we can equivocally have for the soul.

Our hope is in the one who entered the Holy of Holies as our Great High Priest He became the sacrifice for our sins. The mercy seat was sprinkled with His blood as the sacrificial unblemished (without sin) Lamb of God.

The High Priest was the only one who could enter the Holy of Holies as it was separated by a thick heavy veil or curtain. When Jesus died, that veil was torn in two supernaturally. Why?

To represent that Christ paid the way and made us righteous so that all who are in Christ can enter in the presence of God. For us, spiritually once we are reborn ( faith in Christ) our bodies become the temple and in the inner sanctuary, a tabernacle (dwelling place) for the presence (Holy Spirit of God) to reside.

The blood poured out was to represent the sprinkling upon the mercy seat within the Holy of Holies.

The Greek word for “mercy seat” is hilasterion. Or “that which makes expiation” or “propitiation.” It contains the image of the removal of sin.

Romans 3:24-25
English Standard Version
24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.

We are redeemed through Christ by His blood the propitiation “removal of sin”. We are justified by His grace, a free gift, we receive by faith in the redeeming work of Christ.

1 Peter 1:19
English Standard Version
19 but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot.

Jesus Christ is named the Lamb of God in reference to the Passover Lamb or sin atonement in general as lambs were sacrificed night and day in the temple for the sins of the people.

The Passover Lamb reminds the reader of the passover event in Exodus 12 where the Israelites were commanded to spread the blood of a lamb over their doorposts as an act of faith in the promise that God would spare them from judgment on Egypt (judgment = reaper or angel of death). As to the overall meaning of blood covering.

Why blood?

Leviticus 17:11
English Standard Version
11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.

Blood represents life. The pagans of ancient history guided by the demonic would corrupt this system and often demand adult to infant sacrifices. God made a statement by Abraham in stopping him from sacrificing Isaac Genesis 22 that He only required animal sacrifices.
Prophetically this also gives the image of Abraham a father's willingness to sacrifice his son. (Jesus is called the Son of God)

But it also represents how God stopped Abraham while He provided a goat, God would ultimately provide our sacrifice for sin by offering His Son in preparation for the incarnation of Jesus Christ. Only by His sacrifice could we ever be freed from the legalistic practices to atone for sin.

The Christmas story (Christ (mas) or gathering reminds us of some very important truths. That God divine out of love would trade in His garments of a King for the swaddling cloth of an infant. The throne for a manger (feeding trough). Heaven for a stable (where animals were kept). To be swaddled in the same cloth used to protect baby lambs from spots or blemishes as the lambs had to have the appearance of perfection.

The lamb would be swaddled and placed in the manger to protect it from harm or blemish. Once the time came, it would be stripped of its cloth and brought into the temple to be sacrificed. The blood would then be used for the atonement.

Like Jesus, born in a stable where lambs would have been, he was swaddled in cloth, laid in a manger, visited by the shepherds, and one day He would be stripped of His garments and be crucified on a cross.

The three magi (wise men or astronomers) probably trained under the remnants of Daniel's prophecies as Daniel had been enslaved centuries prior within their region.

King Nebuchadnezzar put the prophet Daniel in charge of the high office of “chief of the magicians, enchanters, astrologers and diviners” (Dan. 5:11)

These 3 men who came later brought 3 gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh.
The Bible doesn't tell us why they brought these 3 gifts but we can look at the context of how these gifts were used.

Gold- typically offered to kings, the currency that only those of high authority would have, much of the temple objects would be layered in gold as a symbol of purity and holiness.

Frankincense- was a pleasant fragrance when burned as an offering to God. It is highly probable that this was to symbolize how Jesus would be the sacrifice offering for the sins of the world.

Myrhh- was a spice used in embalming and was quite bitter. It was known to symbolize suffering and affliction.

So much more could be said but I think the post makes the case that this by far is the most important historical event that should rightly divide history before Christ (BC) and Anno Domini," which is Latin for "in the year of our Lord." It refers specifically to the years following the birth of Jesus Christ.

It provides light into the fact that the Bible itself was divinely inspired to be written over a span of 6 to 10,000 years while coming together prophetically and in perfect harmony. As evident from archeology, manuscripts, and ancient historical accounts.
We can hope in the certainty of God because God has shown us time and time again that what He says, will come to pass.

We can trust in the one who conquered sin and death when He says that our salvation is in Him and Him alone. We can trust that for all who are covered by His blood, we are atoned of our sins and that spiritual death shall pass over us.
 
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There's some good stuff in there, and I just have one specific comment and one specific question. First, my comment.

Heb 6:17
Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath:
Heb 6:18
That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:
Heb 6:19
Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil;
Heb 6:20
Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

Seeing how, throughout this epistle, the author regularly quotes or alludes to Old Testament portions of scripture, it is highly likely that, in the part that I bold-faced, he was alluding to those who fled to the cities of refuge, while seeking to escape the avengers of blood, and while laying hold upon the horns of the altar. Just something for you to consider.

Now, to my question.
It provides light into the fact that the Bible itself was divinely inspired to be written over a span of 6 to 10,000 years while coming together prophetically and in perfect harmony. As evident from archeology, manuscripts, and ancient historical accounts.
Personally, I believe that the earth is only around 6,000 years old, so I am curious as to what evidence you have from either archeology, manuscripts, or ancient historical accounts which would lead one to believe that the Bible was written over a span of 6 to 10,000 years. Thank you.
 

bluto

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One of my favorite books in the Bible is the book of Hebrews and we don't even objectively know who the author is other than the fact he was either close to the Apostles or an Apostle himself.

His name is purposely left off which some believe was due to the importance of the message with the intention that no one would get distracted over the name of the author.


I find hope in the certainty of God...


Hebrews 6:13-20
New International Version
The Certainty of God’s Promise
13 When God made his promise to Abraham, since there was no one greater for him to swear by, he swore by himself, 14 saying, “I will surely bless you and give you many descendants.” 15 And so after waiting patiently, Abraham received what was promised.


16 People swear by someone greater than themselves, and the oath confirms what is said and puts an end to all argument. 17 Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of what was promised, he confirmed it with an oath. 18 God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged. 19 We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain, 20 where our forerunner, Jesus, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.


An oath was a promise and for God to make an oath was to swear on His very nature of holiness which involves both justice and truth. God is just and in truth, He can not lie.

The promise to the heirs of Abraham would be the birth of the Messiah and with the grafting in of the Gentiles, the promise is extended to all people who put their hope and faith in the Messiah.

Scripture says to “take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged.”

Take hold, grasp tightly, and do not let go in times of trouble as the author encourages verse 28 “we who have fled”. Fled what? The rise in persecution of the early church.

Verse 19, we have this hope as an anchor giving us the image of the security and stability that an anchor provides a ship we can equivocally have for the soul.

Our hope is in the one who entered the Holy of Holies as our Great High Priest He became the sacrifice for our sins. The mercy seat was sprinkled with His blood as the sacrificial unblemished (without sin) Lamb of God.

The High Priest was the only one who could enter the Holy of Holies as it was separated by a thick heavy veil or curtain. When Jesus died, that veil was torn in two supernaturally. Why?

To represent that Christ paid the way and made us righteous so that all who are in Christ can enter in the presence of God. For us, spiritually once we are reborn ( faith in Christ) our bodies become the temple and in the inner sanctuary, a tabernacle (dwelling place) for the presence (Holy Spirit of God) to reside.

The blood poured out was to represent the sprinkling upon the mercy seat within the Holy of Holies.

The Greek word for “mercy seat” is hilasterion. Or “that which makes expiation” or “propitiation.” It contains the image of the removal of sin.

Romans 3:24-25
English Standard Version
24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.

We are redeemed through Christ by His blood the propitiation “removal of sin”. We are justified by His grace, a free gift, we receive by faith in the redeeming work of Christ.

1 Peter 1:19
English Standard Version
19 but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot.

Jesus Christ is named the Lamb of God in reference to the Passover Lamb or sin atonement in general as lambs were sacrificed night and day in the temple for the sins of the people.

The Passover Lamb reminds the reader of the passover event in Exodus 12 where the Israelites were commanded to spread the blood of a lamb over their doorposts as an act of faith in the promise that God would spare them from judgment on Egypt (judgment = reaper or angel of death). As to the overall meaning of blood covering.

Why blood?

Leviticus 17:11
English Standard Version
11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.

Blood represents life. The pagans of ancient history guided by the demonic would corrupt this system and often demand adult to infant sacrifices. God made a statement by Abraham in stopping him from sacrificing Isaac Genesis 22 that He only required animal sacrifices.
Prophetically this also gives the image of Abraham a father's willingness to sacrifice his son. (Jesus is called the Son of God)

But it also represents how God stopped Abraham while He provided a goat, God would ultimately provide our sacrifice for sin by offering His Son in preparation for the incarnation of Jesus Christ. Only by His sacrifice could we ever be freed from the legalistic practices to atone for sin.

The Christmas story (Christ (mas) or gathering reminds us of some very important truths. That God divine out of love would trade in His garments of a King for the swaddling cloth of an infant. The throne for a manger (feeding trough). Heaven for a stable (where animals were kept). To be swaddled in the same cloth used to protect baby lambs from spots or blemishes as the lambs had to have the appearance of perfection.

The lamb would be swaddled and placed in the manger to protect it from harm or blemish. Once the time came, it would be stripped of its cloth and brought into the temple to be sacrificed. The blood would then be used for the atonement.

Like Jesus, born in a stable where lambs would have been, he was swaddled in cloth, laid in a manger, visited by the shepherds, and one day He would be stripped of His garments and be crucified on a cross.

The three magi (wise men or astronomers) probably trained under the remnants of Daniel's prophecies as Daniel had been enslaved centuries prior within their region.

King Nebuchadnezzar put the prophet Daniel in charge of the high office of “chief of the magicians, enchanters, astrologers and diviners” (Dan. 5:11)

These 3 men who came later brought 3 gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh.
The Bible doesn't tell us why they brought these 3 gifts but we can look at the context of how these gifts were used.

Gold- typically offered to kings, the currency that only those of high authority would have, much of the temple objects would be layered in gold as a symbol of purity and holiness.

Frankincense- was a pleasant fragrance when burned as an offering to God. It is highly probable that this was to symbolize how Jesus would be the sacrifice offering for the sins of the world.

Myrhh- was a spice used in embalming and was quite bitter. It was known to symbolize suffering and affliction.

So much more could be said but I think the post makes the case that this by far is the most important historical event that should rightly divide history before Christ (BC) and Anno Domini," which is Latin for "in the year of our Lord." It refers specifically to the years following the birth of Jesus Christ.

It provides light into the fact that the Bible itself was divinely inspired to be written over a span of 6 to 10,000 years while coming together prophetically and in perfect harmony. As evident from archeology, manuscripts, and ancient historical accounts.
We can hope in the certainty of God because God has shown us time and time again that what He says, will come to pass.

We can trust in the one who conquered sin and death when He says that our salvation is in Him and Him alone. We can trust that for all who are covered by His blood, we are atoned of our sins and that spiritual death shall pass over us.
Hebrews 6:13-20 are some of my favorite verses, especially vs13. Why? Because it was Him who said those words at Genesis 22:16. First, the context starts at vs15, "Then the angel of the Lord called out to Abraham a second time from heaven, vs16, and said, "By Myself I have sworn, declares the Lord, because (or why?) you have done this things and have not withheld your son, your only son, vs17, "indeed I will greatly multiply your seed as the stars of the heavens, and as the sand which is on the seashore; and your seed shall possess the gate of your enemies."

Vs18, "And in your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have OBEYED MY VOICE." In the Old Testament the angel of the Lord is the preincarnate Jesus Christ. Many teach that the angel of the Lord is just that, an actual angel speaking on God's behalf. This is "NOT" true and the reason is the fact that actual angels cannot swear oaths on behalf of God. Notice at Genesis 22, 16 the words, "By Myself I have sworn." Now notice the last three words at Hebrews 6:13, "He swore By Himself," In my opinion this is one of the best proofs in the Bible that Jesus Christ is God.

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
 

homwardbound

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One of my favorite books in the Bible is the book of Hebrews and we don't even objectively know who the author is other than the fact he was either close to the Apostles or an Apostle himself.

His name is purposely left off which some believe was due to the importance of the message with the intention that no one would get distracted over the name of the author.


I find hope in the certainty of God...


Hebrews 6:13-20
New International Version
The Certainty of God’s Promise
13 When God made his promise to Abraham, since there was no one greater for him to swear by, he swore by himself, 14 saying, “I will surely bless you and give you many descendants.” 15 And so after waiting patiently, Abraham received what was promised.


16 People swear by someone greater than themselves, and the oath confirms what is said and puts an end to all argument. 17 Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of what was promised, he confirmed it with an oath. 18 God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged. 19 We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain, 20 where our forerunner, Jesus, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.


An oath was a promise and for God to make an oath was to swear on His very nature of holiness which involves both justice and truth. God is just and in truth, He can not lie.

The promise to the heirs of Abraham would be the birth of the Messiah and with the grafting in of the Gentiles, the promise is extended to all people who put their hope and faith in the Messiah.

Scripture says to “take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged.”

Take hold, grasp tightly, and do not let go in times of trouble as the author encourages verse 28 “we who have fled”. Fled what? The rise in persecution of the early church.

Verse 19, we have this hope as an anchor giving us the image of the security and stability that an anchor provides a ship we can equivocally have for the soul.

Our hope is in the one who entered the Holy of Holies as our Great High Priest He became the sacrifice for our sins. The mercy seat was sprinkled with His blood as the sacrificial unblemished (without sin) Lamb of God.

The High Priest was the only one who could enter the Holy of Holies as it was separated by a thick heavy veil or curtain. When Jesus died, that veil was torn in two supernaturally. Why?

To represent that Christ paid the way and made us righteous so that all who are in Christ can enter in the presence of God. For us, spiritually once we are reborn ( faith in Christ) our bodies become the temple and in the inner sanctuary, a tabernacle (dwelling place) for the presence (Holy Spirit of God) to reside.

The blood poured out was to represent the sprinkling upon the mercy seat within the Holy of Holies.

The Greek word for “mercy seat” is hilasterion. Or “that which makes expiation” or “propitiation.” It contains the image of the removal of sin.

Romans 3:24-25
English Standard Version
24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.

We are redeemed through Christ by His blood the propitiation “removal of sin”. We are justified by His grace, a free gift, we receive by faith in the redeeming work of Christ.

1 Peter 1:19
English Standard Version
19 but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot.

Jesus Christ is named the Lamb of God in reference to the Passover Lamb or sin atonement in general as lambs were sacrificed night and day in the temple for the sins of the people.

The Passover Lamb reminds the reader of the passover event in Exodus 12 where the Israelites were commanded to spread the blood of a lamb over their doorposts as an act of faith in the promise that God would spare them from judgment on Egypt (judgment = reaper or angel of death). As to the overall meaning of blood covering.

Why blood?

Leviticus 17:11
English Standard Version
11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.

Blood represents life. The pagans of ancient history guided by the demonic would corrupt this system and often demand adult to infant sacrifices. God made a statement by Abraham in stopping him from sacrificing Isaac Genesis 22 that He only required animal sacrifices.
Prophetically this also gives the image of Abraham a father's willingness to sacrifice his son. (Jesus is called the Son of God)

But it also represents how God stopped Abraham while He provided a goat, God would ultimately provide our sacrifice for sin by offering His Son in preparation for the incarnation of Jesus Christ. Only by His sacrifice could we ever be freed from the legalistic practices to atone for sin.

The Christmas story (Christ (mas) or gathering reminds us of some very important truths. That God divine out of love would trade in His garments of a King for the swaddling cloth of an infant. The throne for a manger (feeding trough). Heaven for a stable (where animals were kept). To be swaddled in the same cloth used to protect baby lambs from spots or blemishes as the lambs had to have the appearance of perfection.

The lamb would be swaddled and placed in the manger to protect it from harm or blemish. Once the time came, it would be stripped of its cloth and brought into the temple to be sacrificed. The blood would then be used for the atonement.

Like Jesus, born in a stable where lambs would have been, he was swaddled in cloth, laid in a manger, visited by the shepherds, and one day He would be stripped of His garments and be crucified on a cross.

The three magi (wise men or astronomers) probably trained under the remnants of Daniel's prophecies as Daniel had been enslaved centuries prior within their region.

King Nebuchadnezzar put the prophet Daniel in charge of the high office of “chief of the magicians, enchanters, astrologers and diviners” (Dan. 5:11)

These 3 men who came later brought 3 gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh.
The Bible doesn't tell us why they brought these 3 gifts but we can look at the context of how these gifts were used.

Gold- typically offered to kings, the currency that only those of high authority would have, much of the temple objects would be layered in gold as a symbol of purity and holiness.

Frankincense- was a pleasant fragrance when burned as an offering to God. It is highly probable that this was to symbolize how Jesus would be the sacrifice offering for the sins of the world.

Myrhh- was a spice used in embalming and was quite bitter. It was known to symbolize suffering and affliction.

So much more could be said but I think the post makes the case that this by far is the most important historical event that should rightly divide history before Christ (BC) and Anno Domini," which is Latin for "in the year of our Lord." It refers specifically to the years following the birth of Jesus Christ.

It provides light into the fact that the Bible itself was divinely inspired to be written over a span of 6 to 10,000 years while coming together prophetically and in perfect harmony. As evident from archeology, manuscripts, and ancient historical accounts.
We can hope in the certainty of God because God has shown us time and time again that what He says, will come to pass.

We can trust in the one who conquered sin and death when He says that our salvation is in Him and Him alone. We can trust that for all who are covered by His blood, we are atoned of our sins and that spiritual death shall pass over us.
God is absolutely amazing, God simply just loving us all, by Son, proving this truth, in going willingly to death without a flesh fight back at all
Then risen, seen by over 500 witnesses as risen. Hung out with those disciples 40 days, then leave, explaining why he had to go to death one time first in flesh. Acts 1, then came Pentecost, where the Disciples were willing for God, The Holy Spirit to lead, speak truth through them to that crowd there then. Nothing in Father's view has changed, not from God, yet from people has changed to people doing the work to get God and others to be pleased by what they do or do not do. Something is wrong y'all. Flesh nature is leading! as it did and still to this day gets its way in the fight to the finish, Eph 6. through religion(s)
Hebrews 7:11-12 A change in the priesthood, includes a change in the Law
The Law of Love is in control, God's type of Love as seen in 1 Cor 13:4-7 to me anyways. I need that to be imputed in me and remember that daily, thank you for your post
 
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2 Peter 1:6-10
6 And in knowledge, abstinence; and in abstinence, patience; and in patience, godliness; 7 And in godliness, love of brotherhood; and in love of brotherhood, charity. 8 For if these things be with you and abound, they will make you to be neither empty nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he that hath not these things with him, is blind, and groping, having forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. 10 Wherefore, brethren, labour the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election. For doing these things, you shall not sin at any time.
 

homwardbound

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2 Peter 1:6-10
6 And in knowledge, abstinence; and in abstinence, patience; and in patience, godliness; 7 And in godliness, love of brotherhood; and in love of brotherhood, charity. 8 For if these things be with you and abound, they will make you to be neither empty nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he that hath not these things with him, is blind, and groping, having forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. 10 Wherefore, brethren, labour the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election. For doing these things, you shall not sin at any time.
Growing up in maturity Hebrews 5:12- Chapter 6:3
 

Webers.Home

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Re: Our Christmas Hope

1Pet 3:15 . . Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks
you for a reason for your hope.

The new testament Greek word for "hope" in Peter's instructions pertains to
anticipation (usually with pleasure) and to expect with confidence. Note the
elements of anticipation, and expectation, and confidence.

Webster's definition of hope as a verb is very similar: 1) to desire with
expectation of obtainment, and 2) to expect with confidence and trust. Note
the elements of expectation, and confidence, and trust.

Webster's definition of hope as a noun is: 1) a desire accompanied by
expectation of, or belief in, fulfillment, and 2) expectation of fulfillment or
success. Note the elements of expectation, and belief.

In other words: Peter's hope is a know-so hope rather than a cross your
fingers hope.

So, unless someone knows for proof-positive, beyond even the slightest
glimmer of sensible doubt, that they are in no danger of retribution, then of
course it is impossible for them to comply with Peter's instructions seeing as
they would not yet have the kind of hope about which he wrote.

Rom 12:12 . . Rejoicing in hope.

When people are praying for the best, while in the back of their mind
dreading the worst, they have absolutely no cause for rejoicing; no; but they
do have plenty of cause to fear the unknown.
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birdie

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One of my favorite books in the Bible is the book of Hebrews and we don't even objectively know who the author is other than the fact he was either close to the Apostles or an Apostle himself.

His name is purposely left off which some believe was due to the importance of the message with the intention that no one would get distracted over the name of the author.


I find hope in the certainty of God...


Hebrews 6:13-20
New International Version
The Certainty of God’s Promise
13 When God made his promise to Abraham, since there was no one greater for him to swear by, he swore by himself, 14 saying, “I will surely bless you and give you many descendants.” 15 And so after waiting patiently, Abraham received what was promised.


16 People swear by someone greater than themselves, and the oath confirms what is said and puts an end to all argument. 17 Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of what was promised, he confirmed it with an oath. 18 God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged. 19 We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain, 20 where our forerunner, Jesus, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.


An oath was a promise and for God to make an oath was to swear on His very nature of holiness which involves both justice and truth. God is just and in truth, He can not lie.

The promise to the heirs of Abraham would be the birth of the Messiah and with the grafting in of the Gentiles, the promise is extended to all people who put their hope and faith in the Messiah.

Scripture says to “take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged.”

Take hold, grasp tightly, and do not let go in times of trouble as the author encourages verse 28 “we who have fled”. Fled what? The rise in persecution of the early church.

Verse 19, we have this hope as an anchor giving us the image of the security and stability that an anchor provides a ship we can equivocally have for the soul.

Our hope is in the one who entered the Holy of Holies as our Great High Priest He became the sacrifice for our sins. The mercy seat was sprinkled with His blood as the sacrificial unblemished (without sin) Lamb of God.

The High Priest was the only one who could enter the Holy of Holies as it was separated by a thick heavy veil or curtain. When Jesus died, that veil was torn in two supernaturally. Why?

To represent that Christ paid the way and made us righteous so that all who are in Christ can enter in the presence of God. For us, spiritually once we are reborn ( faith in Christ) our bodies become the temple and in the inner sanctuary, a tabernacle (dwelling place) for the presence (Holy Spirit of God) to reside.

The blood poured out was to represent the sprinkling upon the mercy seat within the Holy of Holies.

The Greek word for “mercy seat” is hilasterion. Or “that which makes expiation” or “propitiation.” It contains the image of the removal of sin.

Romans 3:24-25
English Standard Version
24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.

We are redeemed through Christ by His blood the propitiation “removal of sin”. We are justified by His grace, a free gift, we receive by faith in the redeeming work of Christ.

1 Peter 1:19
English Standard Version
19 but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot.

Jesus Christ is named the Lamb of God in reference to the Passover Lamb or sin atonement in general as lambs were sacrificed night and day in the temple for the sins of the people.

The Passover Lamb reminds the reader of the passover event in Exodus 12 where the Israelites were commanded to spread the blood of a lamb over their doorposts as an act of faith in the promise that God would spare them from judgment on Egypt (judgment = reaper or angel of death). As to the overall meaning of blood covering.

Why blood?

Leviticus 17:11
English Standard Version
11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.

Blood represents life. The pagans of ancient history guided by the demonic would corrupt this system and often demand adult to infant sacrifices. God made a statement by Abraham in stopping him from sacrificing Isaac Genesis 22 that He only required animal sacrifices.
Prophetically this also gives the image of Abraham a father's willingness to sacrifice his son. (Jesus is called the Son of God)

But it also represents how God stopped Abraham while He provided a goat, God would ultimately provide our sacrifice for sin by offering His Son in preparation for the incarnation of Jesus Christ. Only by His sacrifice could we ever be freed from the legalistic practices to atone for sin.

The Christmas story (Christ (mas) or gathering reminds us of some very important truths. That God divine out of love would trade in His garments of a King for the swaddling cloth of an infant. The throne for a manger (feeding trough). Heaven for a stable (where animals were kept). To be swaddled in the same cloth used to protect baby lambs from spots or blemishes as the lambs had to have the appearance of perfection.

The lamb would be swaddled and placed in the manger to protect it from harm or blemish. Once the time came, it would be stripped of its cloth and brought into the temple to be sacrificed. The blood would then be used for the atonement.

Like Jesus, born in a stable where lambs would have been, he was swaddled in cloth, laid in a manger, visited by the shepherds, and one day He would be stripped of His garments and be crucified on a cross.

The three magi (wise men or astronomers) probably trained under the remnants of Daniel's prophecies as Daniel had been enslaved centuries prior within their region.

King Nebuchadnezzar put the prophet Daniel in charge of the high office of “chief of the magicians, enchanters, astrologers and diviners” (Dan. 5:11)

These 3 men who came later brought 3 gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh.
The Bible doesn't tell us why they brought these 3 gifts but we can look at the context of how these gifts were used.

Gold- typically offered to kings, the currency that only those of high authority would have, much of the temple objects would be layered in gold as a symbol of purity and holiness.

Frankincense- was a pleasant fragrance when burned as an offering to God. It is highly probable that this was to symbolize how Jesus would be the sacrifice offering for the sins of the world.

Myrhh- was a spice used in embalming and was quite bitter. It was known to symbolize suffering and affliction.

So much more could be said but I think the post makes the case that this by far is the most important historical event that should rightly divide history before Christ (BC) and Anno Domini," which is Latin for "in the year of our Lord." It refers specifically to the years following the birth of Jesus Christ.

It provides light into the fact that the Bible itself was divinely inspired to be written over a span of 6 to 10,000 years while coming together prophetically and in perfect harmony. As evident from archeology, manuscripts, and ancient historical accounts.
We can hope in the certainty of God because God has shown us time and time again that what He says, will come to pass.

We can trust in the one who conquered sin and death when He says that our salvation is in Him and Him alone. We can trust that for all who are covered by His blood, we are atoned of our sins and that spiritual death shall pass over us.
Thanks for reminding us of hope.

I like a verse that tells us that Jesus is our hope: "Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope; "

I also like the one you mentioned from Hebrews: "Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil; "

You mentioned the wise men. I think it is possible that the wise men provide a picture of all true believers. True believers are called wise in the parable of the virgins. Also, in regards to the wise men, they are from the east. East in the Bible is a direction relating to Christ, since the sun rises in the east, and the sun is a picture of Christ as well. When the Bible speaks of wise men from the east, to me it sounds like those who are in Christ as a whole. We read in Genesis about the people of the east, who are described as Jacob's brethren. Another picture of believers, most likely.
 

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Re: Our Christmas Hope

1Pet 3:15 . . Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks
you for a reason for your hope.


The new testament Greek word for "hope" in Peter's instructions pertains to
anticipation (usually with pleasure) and to expect with confidence. Note the
elements of anticipation, and expectation, and confidence.


Webster's definition of hope as a verb is very similar: 1) to desire with
expectation of obtainment, and 2) to expect with confidence and trust. Note
the elements of expectation, and confidence, and trust.


Webster's definition of hope as a noun is: 1) a desire accompanied by
expectation of, or belief in, fulfillment, and 2) expectation of fulfillment or
success. Note the elements of expectation, and belief.


In other words: Peter's hope is a know-so hope rather than a cross your
fingers hope.


So, unless someone knows for proof-positive, beyond even the slightest
glimmer of sensible doubt, that they are in no danger of retribution, then of
course it is impossible for them to comply with Peter's instructions seeing as
they would not yet have the kind of hope about which he wrote.


Rom 12:12 . . Rejoicing in hope.

When people are praying for the best, while in the back of their mind
dreading the worst, they have absolutely no cause for rejoicing; no; but they
do have plenty of cause to fear the unknown.
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‘Love, 1 Cor 13:4-7, John 19:30, fulfilled Matt 5’;17. New life in the risen Christ given I accepted this in thanksgiving and praise. All sin taken away today as far as the east is from the west in Son my Lord unto his Lord wow woe is me: Isaiah 6:1-7
which does not mean one will never sin again, just not against anyone else, thanks
purged from sin Hebrews 10