Christian nationalists

Just wondering what this is all about? Anyone?

There are 2 things that always raise a flag of concern to me.

1. A pastor or church telling me how to vote.
2. A politician telling me how to pray.

Many times in my walk I am reminded of the very first verse of the Bible.

" In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth "

This to me is the most powerful and insightful verse in the Bible. It is by his will and design that any thing under the sun will stand in the last days.
If we start imposing or demanding christian values then we are just the same as the extremists in the middle east.
Subtle words such as "come and see" or "consider this" found throughout the word of God speaks more powerfully than do this or that.

EXAMPLE

I believe the evidence is quite clear that there is a God and he does work in the affairs of man.
Israel is a testimony to that along with the united states. ( ever seen the parallel comparison of these to countries?
The common denominator between these two....The Hebrew God.
The riseing and decline of both these countries were based on who they worshiped and turned away from.

Common threads among extreme right-wing movements in America today. Here is a breakdown of their shared ideologies and their impact:
Common Ideologies:
* Nativism and Xenophobia: A strong anti-immigrant sentiment and a belief that "true" Americans are those born in the country, often with a focus on white, Christian identity.
* Authoritarianism: A preference for strong leaders and a distrust of democratic institutions, often coupled with a willingness to use violence or threats to achieve goals.
* Conspiracy Theories: A reliance on disinformation and distrust of mainstream media, often embracing conspiracy theories about shadowy elites or globalist agendas.
* Traditionalist Values: A focus on "traditional" family structures and gender roles, often opposing LGBTQ+ rights and feminism.
* Economic Grievances: A sense of economic anxiety and resentment towards perceived elites, often blaming immigrants or minorities for economic hardship.
Impact on National and Regional Politics:
* Mainstreaming Extremism: These movements have pushed the boundaries of acceptable discourse, bringing previously fringe ideas into the mainstream.
* Electoral Influence: They have mobilized voters and influenced elections at various levels, from local school boards to national races.
* Policy Impact: Their ideologies have shaped policy debates on issues like immigration, education, and social welfare.
* Violence and Intimidation: These groups have engaged in violence and intimidation, contributing to a climate of fear and polarization.
* Erosion of Democratic Norms: Their distrust of institutions and willingness to subvert democratic processes pose a threat to the stability of American democracy.
Specific Movements:
While sharing these common features, extreme right-wing movements in America are diverse, including:
* White Supremacist Groups: Explicitly racist groups advocating for white dominance.
* Christian Nationalists: Seeking to merge Christian identity with American nationalism.
* Anti-Government Militias: Armed groups preparing for perceived government tyranny.
* Proud Boys and Other "Patriot" Groups: Engaging in street-level activism and violence.
* QAnon: Adherents of a sprawling conspiracy theory involving a "deep state" and Satanic pedophiles.
Important Considerations:
* Not Monolithic: These movements are not a single entity, and there are internal divisions and disagreements.
* Evolving Landscape: The specific issues and tactics of these movements are constantly evolving.
* Counter-movements: There are also strong counter-movements working to combat extremism and defend democratic values.
Understanding these common features and the impact of extreme right-wing movements is crucial for protecting American democracy and promoting a more inclusive and just society.

I just can’t see Jesus approving of any of this.

Nor can I.....is this a new movement or has it been around for a time?

Oh yeah,

11. They worship Donald Trump and would jump headlong over a cliff for him if he suggested it.

12. They display imagery like the MAGA Jesus.

I think Montana is correct. Christian means those who accept Jesus as Lord and try to obey his command to love everyone. Nationalist means those who appreciate their nation and want to keep it from being subverted by the globalists/fascists/communists.

Thus:

MAGA Pubs who push Christianity in the true sense are a good thing, although not perfect,

and

Dems who are violent (or who promote violence as Nancy Pelosi did on "January 6", or racist (Antifa), or forceful (lawfare, injustice system), or not portraying Jesus moral teachings correctly (transgender & abortion advocates), and His love (Marxists) are a problem (inflation, war, etc.).

The seeds of CN are seen in the Ku Klux Klan as early as the 1860s. I'd say the roots of modern CN are in the 1950s when President Eisenhower had "In God We Trust" printed on currency.

In the 1960 Barry Goldwater was a key figure in American conservatism; and one of the most polarizing figures in the US. I would divide the history of CN into before Goldwater and after Goldwater. A lot of what he believed and said can still be seen reflected in CN today. In his view it was either our way (white evangelicals) or the highway. The melding of Christianity (white evangelicalism) and patriotism really started with Goldwater.

The next major player in the movement was Paul Weyrich, a Melkite Catholic. You can get a lot of information about Weyrich in the documentary Bad Faith, which can be watched on Tubi: https://tubitv.com/movies/100020971/bad-faith. He later hooked up with Jerry Falwell and cofounded the Moral Majority with him. This was a key turning point in the breaking down of walls between Catholics and Protestants in the US. Weyrich left a legacy which is the foundation of modern CN.

I am going to unwatchable this thread, I don’t see a need for this discussion as it is political in nature.

Just wondering what this is all about? Anyone?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

Christian nationalists are very keen on saying they want freedom of religion. What they actually mean is they want freedom of religion for them, but no one else. I don't like a lot of the religious practices that go on around us; however, their right to freedom of religion is protected by the Constitution. Until the Constitution is changed there's nothing that can be donelegally.

CNs want to use political influence to erode the separation of church and state so they can force all other religions to either go away or go underground. Who will decide what "true" Christianity is? Prophets and apostles? The president? An advisory council made up of Roman Catholics, LDS, and every other sect you can think of?

The founders wanted the state to stay out of the religion business for a reason.

Just wondering what this is all about? Anyone?

Just wondering what this is all about? Anyone?

Christian nationalists
is it a false narrative created by those of the Democratic Party or anyone who has a morality that is not supportive of LGBTQ perversion?