The spirit of antichrist

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Aaron56

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I agree the man of sin is known by many names but not "The Anti-Christ"
He is anti-christ by his deeds, but there have been many anti-christ in the past and even today.
My opinion is to just call him anti-christ does not explain just how evil and wicked this man is.
Daniel 9:26-27 does not referring to the man of sin.
Jesus is the one who confirms the covenant promised by the Father in Jer. 34. Go study Hebrews.
The people of the prince to come are referring to Vespasian's army that entered Israel in 67 and destroyed the city, temple and the nation in 70 under thee leadership of his son Titus.
Vespasian returned to Rome in 68 and was made Emperor leaving his army (the people of the prince) to complete the destruction of Israel just as Jesus said would happen.
By Vespasian’s example we can see the heart of the evil one revealed. Such a heart did not originate from a vacuum. It came about through scheming and deception.

The anti-Christ will always plot the death of the Son, whether He be on the earth as a man or in us as Spirit. It’s to the enemy's advantage that he finds the child immature. An immature Son is no threat to the enemy’s schemes.
 

Cameron143

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John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
And I believe you are fun at parties. I really do...
He's not. He's only there to get interior decorating ideas.
 

DRobinson

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By Vespasian’s example we can see the heart of the evil one revealed. Such a heart did not originate from a vacuum. It came about through scheming and deception.

The anti-Christ will always plot the death of the Son, whether He be on the earth as a man or in us as Spirit. It’s to the enemy's advantage that he finds the child immature. An immature Son is no threat to the enemy’s schemes.
Daniel reveals that the man of sin is a great schemer and deceiver but it comes from his father Satan.
I challenge any one to provide Scripture other than Daniel 9:27 (that I believe is misunderstood by most) to support that the man of sin makes a seven year covenant with Israel.
 

The_Parson

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Daniel reveals that the man of sin is a great schemer and deceiver but it comes from his father Satan.
I challenge any one to provide Scripture other than Daniel 9:27 (that I believe is misunderstood by most) to support that the man of sin makes a seven year covenant with Israel.
I don't mean anything derogatory DRobinson, but are you a dispensationalist? Just asking...
 

DRobinson

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I don't mean anything derogatory DRobinson, but are you a dispensationalist? Just asking...
Tell me what that label means and I will answer.
I do not like putting labels on people.
And not offended at all.
 

The_Parson

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A dispensationalist is someone who believes in the theological view that history is divided into distinct periods or "dispensations," each marked by a specific way God interacts with humanity. Dispensationalism teaches that God has different plans for humanity in each era, with distinct rules, covenants, and promises for each dispensation. It often emphasizes a literal interpretation of Scripture, particularly in regard to prophetic passages, and holds that God's dealings with Israel and the Church are separate, with Israel having a unique future role in God's plan.

Just for your own reference, I am not...
 

DRobinson

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A dispensationalist is someone who believes in the theological view that history is divided into distinct periods or "dispensations," each marked by a specific way God interacts with humanity. Dispensationalism teaches that God has different plans for humanity in each era, with distinct rules, covenants, and promises for each dispensation. It often emphasizes a literal interpretation of Scripture, particularly in regard to prophetic passages, and holds that God's dealings with Israel and the Church are separate, with Israel having a unique future role in God's plan.

Just for your own reference, I am not...
You did not give all that is included in that label'
For your info, I believe is some and do not believe in other things included.
Do you reject all that is included in the definition?
 

Cameron143

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Oh, then I suspected as such...
Don't get me wrong. He's very smart and biblically sound. He simply...how can I put this in a nice way...enjoys and delights and excels in things I do not.
PS...he will laugh when he reads the comments.
 

The_Parson

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You did not give all that is included in that label'
For your info, I believe is some and do not believe in other things included.
Do you reject all that is included in the definition?
Just generalizing... Reject like what for instance?

Don't get me wrong. He's very smart and biblically sound. He simply...how can I put this in a nice way...enjoys and delights and excels in things I do not.
PS...he will laugh when he reads the comments.
I believe he will...
 

Webers.Home

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1 John 4:3 > "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of
God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now
already is it in the world."


2 John 1:7 > "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is
come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist."

Christian Science comes pretty close to fitting that description. One of their
thoughts says that everything we perceive as reality is actually an illusion.
So although their Jesus looked physical, he was basically an apparition.
Christian Science implies we are all apparitions in one way or another.
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The_Parson

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Christian Science comes pretty close to fitting that description. One of their
thoughts says that everything we perceive as reality is actually an illusion.
So although their Jesus looked physical, he was basically an apparition.
Christian Science implies we are all apparitions in one way or another.
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At the risk of being called mean, Christian science is not at the top of my list of reliable sources.
 

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  • 1 John 4:3: > "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."
  • 1 John 2:18: > "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time."
  • 1 John 2:22: > "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."
  • 2 John 1:7: > "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist."
Personally I believe whole heartedly that the Lord is going to take us out of here at the time of the revealing of the man of sin, the wicked one (antichrist). That's because of my own pre-trib. beliefs which aren't here for debate. Maybe later. But do you believe the spirit of antichrist is still here today and as active as he can be? You amill's probably wouldn't have an opinion on this, but then again, maybe you would. One way or another it's cool with me.

2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked one be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
I agree we who are in Christ shall not experience the Great Tribulation .

As God wills there will still be time after we are gone and during that horrible time for people to turn to Christ.

Amen.
 

Aaron56

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Don't get me wrong. He's very smart and biblically sound. He simply...how can I put this in a nice way...enjoys and delights and excels in things I do not.
PS...he will laugh when he reads the comments.
:LOL:

My mother was an interior decorator for Home Interiors. When she was pregnant with my twin brothers it was difficult for her to carry her trunks full of pictures and items to home shows so I often went with her. I would carry in the trunks and then set up to do my homework (I was in Jr. High at the time). When I was done I would listen in to what she was teaching the other women. 1) Pictures should be hung at eye level 2) To get dust off of greenery put it in a paper bag with salt and shake it... She also did a bit of color psychology: what your favorite color says about your personality and hobbies. She was very sensitive to nuances of paintings especially the colors and would often point out details that most people would miss.

I say all this to say I LIKE PICKING OUT DRAPES FOR OUR HOUSE AND I'M NOT TAKING IT BACK!
Okay, drapes AND decorations... BUT STILL!


:love:
 

The_Parson

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:LOL:

My mother was an interior decorator for Home Interiors. When she was pregnant with my twin brothers it was difficult for her to carry her trunks full of pictures and items to home shows so I often went with her. I would carry in the trunks and then set up to do my homework (I was in Jr. High at the time). When I was done I would listen in to what she was teaching the other women. 1) Pictures should be hung at eye level 2) To get dust off of greenery put it in a paper bag with salt and shake it... She also did a bit of color psychology: what your favorite color says about your personality and hobbies. She was very sensitive to nuances of paintings especially the colors and would often point out details that most people would miss.

I say all this to say I LIKE PICKING OUT DRAPES FOR OUR HOUSE AND I'M NOT TAKING IT BACK!
Okay, drapes AND decorations... BUT STILL!


:love:
Ain't nuthin wrong with that...
 

Aaron56

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Daniel reveals that the man of sin is a great schemer and deceiver but it comes from his father Satan.
I challenge any one to provide Scripture other than Daniel 9:27 (that I believe is misunderstood by most) to support that the man of sin makes a seven year covenant with Israel.
Who's talking about covenants?:unsure:

Even so, in the fullness of time there will be only two apparent sons in the earth: one from Adam; given to carnality and subject to the enemy and one from Christ; led by the Spirit of God.
 

The_Parson

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The main focus and jist of this thread (the OP) is the Spirit of AC being active to the extreme in this day and age. And actively causing all the diverse errors and apostasy that's rampant in this era. ie "thinking to change times and laws" Dan. 7:25. Just to clarify folks. Times meaning history, and laws (plural) meaning the scriptures. If it were just "law" singular specifically, it would mean the law of Moses and the prophets, but it is plural "laws"... We already know that antichrist himself hasn't been revealed because we would know it. And consequentially, the church would be out of here in my humble opinion. Therefore the spirit of antichrist causing these many versions of the Bible, and the confusion of the saints as the result.
 

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James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
The closest for me is to stand in trust it is done for me to do that without taking any credit in it, giving it all to God Father in the risen Son Jesus for me, since I have sinned more than once especially and am in an unredeemed body.
This standing in God relieves me, from the trying to do what no other can do, this is done for me and you and all others also, by God Father through Son on that cross, to first accept by his one time willing death, we are reconciled (Forgiven) to get given the new life in the risen Son Jesus top love all, All, not just those that love us back. At least me, thanks beautiful verse you posted, thanks
To me pure religion is not a. religion. What?
Religion is someone, many a few has to do to get others to be pleased by their doings. That makes others god's of god's. People running around and praising others or not in whatever others are doing or not. And Paul who was Saul gave up religion, explained in Phil 3 to me, I see it clearly, now, just doing my best to be God's responder to God's love for us all, and not a creating pretender sitting in Moses's seat
That just me thanks
 

Webers.Home

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Christian science is not at the top of my list of reliable sources.

They probably feel the same way about us, but oh well. :rolleyes:

Islam might fit some of John's descriptions. For one, the Koran does teach
there was a man named Jesus (a.k.a. Isa) but it denies he passed away on
the cross. "The Women [4.157]"


The Koran also refuses to believe Jesus and God are associated as paternal
relatives, viz: it teaches Jesus was an ordinary man no different than Adam,
and nothing more. "The Family of Imran [3.59], The Dinner Table [5.75],
The Immunity [9.30]"
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