the Sabbath

Know that this will probably apply to you, if you teach lawlesness.

You do not understand that the 2 commandments of Jesus are a summary of the 10 commandments. I want you to search for this and see for yourself that all agree on this. Love GOD, ( the first 4 commandments) Love your neighbour, ( the last six commandments)

How can you keep the law and at the same time see your sin through your transgression?

That is a contradiction.

We don't teach lawlessness because everyone knows how to be lawless without
even being taught.

We teach Christ crucified for salvation.

The law has nothing to do with salvation.

The law simply tells you that your lawless.

It applies to all of us who proclaim The Christ as our Savior.

1 John 3:23-24
This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another,
just as He commanded us. The one who keeps His commandments remains in Him, and He in him.

John 13:34
I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, that
you also love one another.

You have the law and not the gospel.

You do not recognize the new commandment because you have not been taught the new commandment.

The new commandments to love Jesus and others as Christ loved us, is an unconditional love.

You have not been taught this so you are still under the two greatest, former commandments.

Your under the law.

John 15:10 is referring to all of God’s commandments why it plural- commandment(s)

John 13:34 is singular commandment

We are to keep all of God’s commandments, a new commandment does not delete old ones- especially when the details Rom 13:9 make up the summary of God’s law, although loving our neighbor wasn’t new, it was just a new way of saying it, because people are hard of hearing.

If we keep His commandments, we abide in His love.
If we abide in His love, we ought to walk just as Jesus did as He is our example to follow 1 John 2:6

Good question @Inquisitor, I am unable to answer this question, but i will refer you to @SabbathBlessing for clarification.

“When anyone insists the Sabbath is done away “

What I’ve actually said is that it’s one commandment of an entire law given to Israel’s children by Moses and it’s not Christianity to try to worship and know God by ten rocks with letters engraved upon them, it’s not the new covenant it’s the old covenant before Jesus came.

” and there is not one iota of scripture proof to sustain that claim, that's not the Gospel.”

….people throughout this thread have given mounds of scripture as I have also but scripture is true and it’s amazing how it reveals itself

“who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, (everyone knows what this is referencing ) was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:

and not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: but their minds were blinded:

for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3:6-7, 12-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The scripture is there and a few people now have shown tons of it throughout this thread. The responses have never acknolwedged any of the scripture .

Christian’s want to focus on Christ and the gospel whether they were Jewish under Moses law or gentile and never were it’s about Jesus and his word.

what Moses was given was a covenant between God and Israel’s children as promised to Abram the Hebrew after delivering them from slavery in Egypt

Christian’s want this word

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This doesn’t have anything to do with trying to become sanctified keeping a day holy , or converting anyone to Judaism . it has to do with preaching the gospel to people telling them about Jesus and the things he did and said were important to God .

“Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death. Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭35:2-3‬ ‭

“blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

and having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:14-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

There are far more important things to God than observing holy days from the old covenant but when people are looking to Moses they don’t hear it

And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day. But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:16-18‬

Instead of looking at Jesus healing and doing miracles in Gods name lol they were focused on the day of the week lol…..poor fellas

That’s assuming one is transgressing. God’s law shows us what sin is, not so we can sin, so we don’t sin!

Think of it like the speed limit. You won’t know you’re speeding unless you see a sign that tells you what the speed limit it. That’s what God’s law is supposed to do, one doesn’t know they are dirty unless they have a mirror to see their dirt. God’s law is to show us God’s version of right and wrong doing, so we hopefully choose the right way to live instead of the wrong way. Jesus lived to be our example, He kept all of God’s law and we are to follow Him. If we slip and fall along the way, we need to immediately repent and ask for God’s help in overcoming our sins. Sin should be painful and if it’s not we need to spend more time in prayer. We are saved from our sins, not in sin. All God’s law does is show us what sin is and shows our need for Jesus. Some in Christ should not be living in perpetual sin and thats what God’s law does- so we are not covering our sins, but confessing them and seeking Christ help in overcoming them.

God’s rules is no different than our parents rules growing up. Do we show love and respect to our parents by following them or disobeying them? God is no different, except He is our Savior and suffered so much not so we can continue in sin, to save us from the bondage of sin, a complete transformation in Christ.

So when did the Sabbath commandment end, please show me a verse when it ended.

Funny fellow, thanks for advancing me up the ladder to a higher authority.

Nevertheless, you do sin and so does everyone else.

So it is better to not say you obey the 10 commandments rather confess and be forgiven.

Those that obey the law are those that transgress the law, still holds true.

I’ve said i think five times now . It was one command in a covenant made between God and the children of Israel and was mediated by Moses. It’s a different covenant. Made with a specific flesh and blood people.

It’s not part of the gospel it’s pet of the old covenant and is for those covenant people

. the gospel is complete as it is and is about how we treat other people not whether we observe a holyday once a week

can I ask you a different question ? Do you actually honor the sabbath according to Moses law ? Or do you “ honor “ it your own way ?

I am going to have to stick with what Jesus taught.

Sin is the transgression of God’s law 1 John 3:4 Breaking any of the Ten Commandments James 2:10-12 Mat 5:19-30 Rom 7:7

It;s not God’s will that we sin and break His law

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

What are we told to do if we sin?

1 John 2:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

What if we don’t confess our sins

Pro 28:13 He who covers his sins will not prosper,
But whoever confesses and forsakes them will have mercy.

Which is a bad spot to be in come Judgement Day

Heb 10:26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” [g]says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Why Jesus taught Repent, for the Kingdom of God is at hand.

We need to repent and turn from sin- it means a u-turn.

While we can’t obey on our own we can through Christ through our cooperation, not allowing God to be God to define His own commandments that we are to live by is not the way to cooperate with God. We cooperate with Him through our love and faith and obeying what He asks, but who is the one doing? Not us.

John 14:15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another [e]Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

I’ll answer it when you answer my question. When did the Sabbath commandment end? Where is the verse.

All of the laws were made to Israel including the New Covenant. It should be a simple answer since you are so sure God’s Sabbath commandment ended. Just provide one verse when it ended.

Ten rocks? Well at least we know your level of respect for Scripture.

One day you'll venture to the New Covenant Testament. There you'll read Yeshua,Jesus,reiterated those what you show no respect for.


It is amazing that not one iota of Scripture stating God's Sabbath gift to man that existed and was practiced before Sinai was later revoked by God's decree exists.

While it is true those who post "mounds of scripture" in an effort to reveal their intention to invalidate the Sabbath God who gave it never nullified.

Paul was a Pharisee. During his trial he identified as a Pharisee. Present tense.

The Spirit of the Law of God is the same as that power what gave it to man. God.
The Spirit resides within the redeemed in Christ as does his law. As he said. So that we are not far from it.

The ten Commandments are God's moral edicts. They are not done away.

Fascinating. The children of Israel were to think the Commandments Moses brought to them was done away. God wasted his time on the mountain writing those letters on ten rocks.

The rest of your post reiterates error and denial of God's words while injecting falsehood.

Well, I can see plenty of "veil" here.

Do you know when Adventism began and why it began so late in history?

Do you also know where it began and why it began in that country?