Lets Talk about James 1:12

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Adak5150

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Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him.

I love this bible verse. It is my most favorite bible verse ever.

Whatever it is that you are facing. You can overcome it. if its addiction or any other hardship you can overcome it!

You just need to have FAITH!!!
 

Magenta

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James 1:2-4 Consider it pure joy my brothers, when you encounter trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. Allow perseverance to finish its work, so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.
 

homwardbound

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Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him.

I love this bible verse. It is my most favorite bible verse ever.

Whatever it is that you are facing. You can overcome it. if its addiction or any other hardship you can overcome it!

You just need to have FAITH!!!
no, "I" can't nor any other person can, but Son that did it in our place for us to be given new life in his resurrected life
What???????????? No one in the first (Old) Testament could, no one!
So God Father through Son did it for us all to get saved, if one believes and sticks to belief over works to get in be in and stay in
Col 1:21-23 tells me this truth, thank you. yet I did go through under Law first, to see for me "I" can't do it as want to do it "I" can't, but God did it for me and all others too it is finished (John 19:30) What is finished? God by Son took on the sin of the world all of it in his self done once on that cross, Son and Father won for us to be made new as born again from God to us all as the gift, that man religion has messed up in trying to do it, where no other person can do it as revealed first in the Old, (First Testament) to me anyways
It is Love that overcame Evil God's love as in 1 Cor 13:4-7 tells me
 

Dino246

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Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him.

I love this bible verse. It is my most favorite bible verse ever.

Whatever it is that you are facing. You can overcome it. if its addiction or any other hardship you can overcome it!

You just need to have FAITH!!!
Um... I appreciate your enthusiasm, but it needs a bit of focus. Faith, by itself, is meaningless unless you have the right object of your faith. The 'word of faith' folks dove headfirst into error by forgetting that we need to start with what God says, and not with what we want.

We will not necessarily "overcome" health challenges, financial setbacks, loss of friends or family. We may get through them though, and that's the point of the verse you quote: when we face trials, we need to persevere in our faith in God. Where God promises something, we can hold to that as to an anchor. Where it's something that hasn't been specifically promised, we can hold to His general promises. The times when we don't have a clear promise to hold are the times when our faith is tested. Will our confidence in God's goodness hold even when we can't see it? That was the test Job faced, and the test that most of us eventually face. :)
 

John146

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Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him.

I love this bible verse. It is my most favorite bible verse ever.

Whatever it is that you are facing. You can overcome it. if its addiction or any other hardship you can overcome it!

You just need to have FAITH!!!
There is no blind faith in the bible. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Biblical faith is believing what God's word says is true even when there is no external evidence.
 

Webers.Home

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Jas 1:12 . . Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when
he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised
to those who love him.

That may have something to do with conquering one's difficulties but I
rather suspect James was thinking of guys like Job about whom is said:

"Then Job arose and tore his robe and shaved his head, and he fell to the
ground and worshiped. And he said: Naked I came from my mother's womb,
and naked I shall return there. The Lord gave and The Lord has taken away.
Blessed be the name of The Lord. Through all this Job did not sin nor did he
condemn God." (Job 1:20-22)

And Habakkuk:

"Although the fig tree fails to blossom, neither shall fruit be in the vines; the
labor of the olive shall fail, and the fields shall yield no food; the flock shall
be cut off from the fold, and there shall be no herd in the stalls: yet I will
rejoice in The Lord, I will joy in the God of my salvation." (Hab 3:17-18)

In other words: one should never let disagreeable circumstances make them
bitter and resentful towards God.

1Thess 5:18 . . Be appreciative in all circumstances, for this is God's will
for you in Christ Jesus.

So let's be very cautious about cursing our luck because it just might be the
hand of God at work in our lives rather than one of the Fates.

Jas 1:2-3 . . Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of
many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops
perseverance.
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homwardbound

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Um... I appreciate your enthusiasm, but it needs a bit of focus. Faith, by itself, is meaningless unless you have the right object of your faith. The 'word of faith' folks dove headfirst into error by forgetting that we need to start with what God says, and not with what we want.

We will not necessarily "overcome" health challenges, financial setbacks, loss of friends or family. We may get through them though, and that's the point of the verse you quote: when we face trials, we need to persevere in our faith in God. Where God promises something, we can hold to that as to an anchor. Where it's something that hasn't been specifically promised, we can hold to His general promises. The times when we don't have a clear promise to hold are the times when our faith is tested. Will our confidence in God's goodness hold even when we can't see it? That was the test Job faced, and the test that most of us eventually face. :)
Informing and truth, as I see many have gone through are going through and might still go through more (been there), I think this be why God says to remain in the present, it is the present from God having life presently, wether or not it is going good or bad presently. Paul, clearly states in. Phil 3 he puts the past behind him and continues to move forward. I see that to stand and admit, ask to see truth to let go of error(s) willingly and be new in God's spirit and Truth only.
thanks for the insight you shared Dino
 

GWH

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There is no blind faith in the bible. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Biblical faith is believing what God's word says is true even when there is no external evidence.
Amen! And the crucial truth in GW is the Gospel, which includes several beliefs:

  1. There is a/one all-loving and just Lord or God (DT 6:4, JN 3:16, 2THS 1:6), who is both able (2TM 1:12) and willing (1TM 2:3-4) to provide all morally accountable human beings salvation or heaven—a wonderful life full of love, joy and peace forever.
  2. Human beings are selfish or sinful (RM 3:23, 2TM 3:2-4, CL 3:5), miserable (GL 5:19-21), and hopeless (EPH 2:12) when they reject God’s salvation or DOD (JN 3:18).
  3. Jesus is God’s Messiah/Christ or the way (means of providing salvation) that God has chosen (JN 3:16, ACTS 16:30-31, PHP 2:9-11), although pre-NT truthseekers could/can learn a proto-gospel via general revelation combined with conscience.
  4. Thus, every person who hears the NT Gospel needs to repent and accept God in Jesus as Christ/Messiah the Lord or Supreme Commander (LK 2:11, JN 14:6, ACTS 16:31), which means trying to obey His commandment to love one another (MT 22:37-40, JN 13:35, RM 13:9)—forever (MT 10:22, PS 113:2).
  5. Then God’s Holy Spirit will establish a saving relationship with those who freely accept Him (RV 3:20) that will eventually achieve heaven when by means of persevering in learning God’s Word everyone cooperates fully with His will (RM 8:6-17, GL 6:7-9, EPH 1:13-14, HB 10:36, 12:1, JM 1:2-4).
 

Sipsey

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May I offer this exposition by one of my favorite authors, Spiros Zodhiates-



The Blessing of Temptation

Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.

—James 1:12

This verse should definitely be connected linguistically and in thought to verses 2, 3, and 4 of this chapter where James speaks of life’s trials and temptations. These we are to meet with all joy, for their effect upon this life, which is patience, perfection, maturity, and wisdom. But that is not all. There is a life to come and it is then that the real reward of the patient and victorious Christian is obtained. It is joy here and blessedness there. Praise be unto God.

Our verse starts with a familiar word in the New Testament, the word makários, the same word the Lord used when He sat on the Mount of Olives and taught His disciples who the “blessed” are in this world. It is significant that this word is used by the Apostle Paul in describing God, as in 1 Timothy 1:11, in which he says: “according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God.” This, according to Paul, is an attribute of God. And yet the Christian is characterized by it, the Christian who has learned patiently to endure temptations and trials in this life. Surely we possess the inherent happiness of God since we are partakers of His nature. That explains the secret of the Christian’s happiness. No matter what happens in the outside world, the Christian is happy because God is within, because he is a partaker of the divine nature.

But who is so happy? It is not every Christian. Unfortunately there are unhappy Christians, plenty of them. Happy or blessed is the man, James says, who endureth temptation. That word translated “endureth” is the verb from which the noun “patience” is derived. Hupomonḗ is “patience” and hupoménō is “to be patient.” Let us analyze the word a little more. It is made up of the preposition hupó which means “under,” and the verb ménō, which means “to abide, to stay.” Here are the trials and temptations of life seemingly having the upper hand over us. We are under them. What can we do? One thing that we are tempted to do is to escape temptation, to run away from the trials of life. But that is not what we are supposed to do as warriors of Jesus Christ. We are supposed to hold our ground, to stand firm, remembering that He who is within us is greater than he who is without. The load can never be so great that it will crush us. Since He who made the whole world is in us, with us, and for us, who can be against us, who can take away our happiness? Absolutely no one or nothing. We are more than conquerors through Him that loved us.

The word “temptation” here in our verse has the meaning of “trial” rather than temptation as we usually understand it. It refers to the adverse circumstances of life and not to something for which you are responsible, as we saw was the case in verse 2 of this same chapter. If we were to translate the first part of verse 12 we should say, “Happy is the man who stands his ground in the face of temptations.”

Now why should the Christian who has been under the fire of testings consider himself happy? Because of what he will receive after the testing period is over. “For having been proved or tested, he shall receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love him.” What did James mean by “the crown of life”? There has been much theological discussion concerning the meaning of the phrase. I shall give you the two main meanings.

The Greek word stephanos actually means “that which surrounds or encompasses,” and it is usually the head that is encircled or encompassed. Therefore, the applied meaning is a crown, a wreath or garland placed on someone’s head as a sign of honor in victory. All along James speaks about the struggle of life, about the Christian holding his ground in the face of temptations. While here on earth the Christian is engaged in war, but if he participates in the divine nature, he cannot but be a victor.

This word also describes the Christian’s final reward in heaven. For James it is a crown of life; for Paul it is a crown of righteousness (2 Tim. 4:8), and for Peter it is a crown of glory. What is that final reward? It is that we shall reign together with Jesus Christ and with Him shall judge the world. Read the fourth chapter of Revelation and see how apparent this is. Think of it, those who now persecute us, revile us, tempt us, try us, and speak all manner of evil against us, shall one day be judged by us. We are now taken advantage of, but wait a while and you shall see what will happen.

When James speaks of the promise of the Lord, I do not believe that he refers to any particular promise or any special passage, but to all the Lord’s promises of the crown of the victor and of the regal glory that awaits him. The Word of God is full of such promises, so there is every reason for you and me to exercise patience as we go through the fiery furnace of trials. It is worthwhile being unpopular here for the sake of being popular with Him up there. It is like the gatekeeper at the railroad station who demanded that everybody present his ticket before going through the gate to the train. From those who could not find their tickets readily there was much grumbling and swearing. One watching the scene said to the gatekeeper, “You don’t seem to be very popular with the crowd.” He just cast his eyes upward to the floor above, where the superintendent’s office was, and said, “I don’t care anything about being popular with this crowd; all I care for is to be popular with the man up there.” All that matters is to please the Lord who shall one day crown us with glory and everlasting blessedness.

James has spoken of faith and endurance in tribulation. But now he introduces something else and that is love. To whom is God going to give this crown of life? To those who love Him. The actual translation from the Greek is “to those loving Him.” There is here the quality of continuity. It is not those who loved the Lord at one time, but those who love Him to the very end of their lives under all circumstances.

A young man spent an entire evening telling a girl how much he loved her. He said that he could not live without her and that he would go to the ends of the earth for her; yes, go through fire for her, or die for her. But when leaving, he said, “I’ll see you tomorrow night, if it does not rain.” How often we say we love God, yet deny it by our actions. Christ will give His crown of life only to those who love Him in deed and in truth. Do you?



Zodhiates, Spiros. 1999. Faith, Love, & Hope: An Exposition of the Epistle of James. Electronic ed. Logos Library System; Exegetical Commentary Series. Chattanooga, TN: AMG Publishers.
 

homwardbound

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I see what is said in the post, thank you, Sipsey
I see contentment in all things
1 Timothy 6:6
But godliness with contentment is great gain.
Philippians 1:16
the one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
Philippians 1:7
even as it is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart; inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defence and confirmation of the gospel, ye all are partakers of my grace.
Philippians 4:11
Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.
I am learning this truth also