Understanding God’s election
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Grace is indeed power. Did not God graciously exert great power against Pharaoh and and Egypt to free Abraham's children from their bondage? Or what about when God miraculously quenched the Israelites' thirst and hunger in the wilderness? Those were not acts of grace? Paul taught the Roman saints that sin shall no longer control them because now they are under grace -- clearly implying that grace is more powerful than sin (Rom 6:14), etc, etc.
Jesus himself is the very embodiment of Grace and Truth (Jn 1:14) and he very often manifested that grace through his miraculous powers. God's grace is not just some abstract, ambiguous idea. God's grace has been very active and effective in this world since the beginning of time.
Jesus himself is the very embodiment of Grace and Truth (Jn 1:14) and he very often manifested that grace through his miraculous powers. God's grace is not just some abstract, ambiguous idea. God's grace has been very active and effective in this world since the beginning of time.
In other words, you have no scripture to back up your nonsense. Just more childish conjecture. What if the Holy Spirit doesn't want to leave God's elect since God owns his elect. Why would the Lord want to give up what he owns? Don't you know that God's chosen people were bought at a great price (1Cor 6:20; 7:23)!?
No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them;
they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. 1 John 3:9
God's Word says He will not let them "continue" in sin...
If they wish to continue to sin?
God will put it to a stop.
By the sin onto death .....
If you see any brother or sister commit a sin that does not lead to death,
you should pray and God will give them life. I refer to those whose sin
does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying
that you should pray about that." 1 John 5:16
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In Against Heresies, 1.6 Irenaeus said gnostics believed that grace was some thing they possessed that had descended from above and united with them to make them spiritual beings.
Gnostics "run us [Christians] down (who from the fear of God guard against sinning even in thought or word) as utterly contemptible and ignorant persons, while they highly exalt themselves, and claim to be perfect, and the elect seed. For they declare that we simply receive grace for use, wherefore also it will again be taken away from us; but that they themselves have grace as their own special possession, which has descended from above by means of an unspeakable and indescribable conjunction; and on this account more will be given them. "
Gnostics "run us [Christians] down (who from the fear of God guard against sinning even in thought or word) as utterly contemptible and ignorant persons, while they highly exalt themselves, and claim to be perfect, and the elect seed. For they declare that we simply receive grace for use, wherefore also it will again be taken away from us; but that they themselves have grace as their own special possession, which has descended from above by means of an unspeakable and indescribable conjunction; and on this account more will be given them. "
Jesus is the Way. He is the Word understood ACCURATELY.
Calvin was a good student of the Scriptures. It's those who followed him that gave us TULIP. Not Calvin.
So, what we now call Calvinism would be better to be called Bezaism, more appropriately named after Theodore Beza, who was a disciple of John Calvin. Those disciples were the ones who screwed up the thinking.
Do a search... " Theodore Beza gave us TULIP "
Calvin was a good student of the Scriptures. It's those who followed him that gave us TULIP. Not Calvin.
So, what we now call Calvinism would be better to be called Bezaism, more appropriately named after Theodore Beza, who was a disciple of John Calvin. Those disciples were the ones who screwed up the thinking.
Do a search... " Theodore Beza gave us TULIP "
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