Genesis 3:15 Thoughts

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seantspence

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Christ's followers are not supposed to be self-taught, rather, they're
supposed to be instructed by competent God-given teachers.


Eph 4:10-16 . . It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be
prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to
prepare God's people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be
built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son
of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of
Christ.


Self-taught Christians run the risk of injuring themselves.

2Pet 3:15-16 . . Our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom
that God gave him . . . His letters contain some things that are hard to
understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other
scriptures, to their own destruction.
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I would say that has been me for almost two years now. It’s a good thing this site exists.
 
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seantspence

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God is speaking to the serpent, not Adam, when speaking of enmity and is effectively declaring war between the "forces of good and the forces of evil". God is telling the serpent that He will raise up a man (seed of the woman, who we now know is the Christ) to crush Satan's rule (crush his head) and that Satan will bruise His heel (those that follow the Christ).

God effectively tells Satan in this passage he has lost no matter what he tries to do to humanity to turn it against God and that salvation for humanity is secured.
Thank you, Sawdust
 

glf

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If dying were enough to atone for one's sin, then our own deaths would suffice meet that requirement. When, by the greatest miricle in all of eternity, our sins were put upon Jesus and the Father and the Holy Spirit seperated from him; Jesus cried out from the cross, "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me," he took on himself the curse of a physical and spiritual death.
When a member of mankind sins, an infinite atonement is required to pay the price; since we are finite beings, and since we're unable to suffer infinitely, we must suffer for infinity. Jesus being infinite in and of himself was able to suffer infinitely, but it took more than just the physical death of his human body. This is revealed to us when he cried out from the cross! Even as it was happening, "It is finished," just before dying. This is a Roman legal term equal to the US's, "paid in full." This is what makes Jn 10: 17-18 so poignant, Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

So it is Jesus' heel that will be bruised, fulfilling the Lord's promise to the surpent... As he made an infinite atonement for each of us... infinite X infinite = infinite...
 
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seantspence

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If dying were enough to atone for one's sin, then our own deaths would suffice meet that requirement. When, by the greatest miricle in all of eternity, our sins were put upon Jesus and the Father and the Holy Spirit seperated from him; Jesus cried out from the cross, "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me," he took on himself the curse of a physical and spiritual death.
When a member of mankind sins, an infinite atonement is required to pay the price; since we are finite beings, and since we're unable to suffer infinitely, we must suffer for infinity. Jesus being infinite in and of himself was able to suffer infinitely, but it took more than just the physical death of his human body. This is revealed to us when he cried out from the cross! Even as it was happening, "It is finished," just before dying. This is a Roman legal term equal to the US's, "paid in full." This is what makes Jn 10: 17-18 so poignant, Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

So it is Jesus' heel that will be bruised, fulfilling the Lord's promise to the surpent... As he made an infinite atonement for each of us... infinite X infinite = infinite...
Thank you for clearing that up, glf. I might need a nap after that one.
 

Dino246

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I've always taken This verse to mean the woman against the devil like in revelation where he declares war on us for bringing Christ into the world Likewise this is revenge "upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life"
Now slithering can refer to an unnatural walk or and super fast walk and being dry Mabey unable to eat or taste food.

"When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none."

The devil kicks the woman in the head(insults) and we bruise his heel.
I don't hold that the serpent was a literal member of the animal kingdom. By the context and language, it was more likely an appearance of a "divine being" (spirit, but not God).
 

John146

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I don't hold that the serpent was a literal member of the animal kingdom. By the context and language, it was more likely an appearance of a "divine being" (spirit, but not God).
Satan appearing as an angel of light.
 

Dino246

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Satan appearing as an angel of light.
As I understand it, the Hebrew employs a double entendre, wherein the word for "serpent" also means "brassy" or "shining". Something like that... I don't recall all the details of the teaching, and the book is out on loan.
 

homwardbound

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Gen 3:15 . . I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between
your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.
This Scripture, I see as the first prediction of our risen Lord Jesus, coupling those that believe he is risen after his onetime willing death first. (John 1:29) took away all sin in his Father’s sight for us the people to believe this truth or not, consciously. So we can be new from Father’s gift, being given, freely new life in Father’s Spirit and Truth, the Holy Spirit. Renewed to see from Daddy’s view in love and mercy to all, regardless of the evil that still goes on in from unbelievers, Amazing grace
The crush satans head is:
‘the resurrection, (Rev. 1) The bruise his heel is the willing death first, that had to be done first to fulfill the Law first Acts 1
therefore be willingly dead to sin as well, and see new grow up into maturity in Father and Son as Won (One) thanking Father and Son daily for this mercy given, amazing.
believe, receive and see
 

Webers.Home

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It’s a good thing this site exists.

The one place on earth we might expect to be off limits to demonic
influences would've been the upper room with Jesus and his men just prior
to his arrest. But no, the Devil was there.

John 13:21-30 . . Jesus was troubled in spirit and testified: I tell you the
truth, one of you is going to betray me. His disciples stared at one another,
at a loss to know which of them he meant. One of them, the disciple whom
Jesus loved, was reclining next to him. Simon Peter motioned to this disciple
and said: Ask him which one he means.

. . Leaning back against Jesus, he asked him: Lord, who is it? Jesus
answered: It is the one to whom I will give this piece of bread when I have
dipped it in the dish. Then, dipping the piece of bread, he gave it to Judas
Iscariot, son of Simon. As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into
him.

Well; if even as sacred a place as that upper room was open to paranormal
activity, then just how much reliable spiritual information can visitors hope
to find on world-wide internet forums where diverse ideas about Christ,
Christianity, and the Bible are offered like the wide variety of low cost junk
for sale in a flea market? All I can say is: all that glitters is not gold, so
caveat lector.
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