The hatred of Jews

What is your answer @GaryA @TabinRivCA @Romans34 @Moses_Young ?

[Dan 9:26 KJV]
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

[Dan 9:27 KJV]
And he (the prince that shall come) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

"And he (the prince that shall come) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: "

No sane human being on planet earth thinks that this has happened since the Resurrection and Ascension. It is NOWHERE in recorded history. NO GENTILE RULER (or any earthly ruler) has ever confirmed ANY 7 year covenant with the nation Israel. Or the Church for that matter. And it certainly does not dovetail into your bogus eschatology either.

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One verse. ONE SINGLE VERSE utterly wipes out all of your heretical eschatological pretentions.
I expect much raving, red "x"-s, denials and unintelligible flailing to be the result of this post, this much is entirely predictable.

I expect that you will likely (unfortunately) be "stuck" in this erroneous view for the rest of your life - unless, of course, you actually one day "wake up" and decide to swallow your pride and consider the possibility that you are in error.

You do not yet realize that you are hanging onto a severe misinterpretation of this "one single verse" (not to mention, the whole passage/chapter) - and, you will remain in error for as long as you are not willing to let go of it...

It is very unwise to build a doctrine on ONE VERSE, but many do it to their own shame.

You are entertaining if nothing else, CV. But the issue was about defining Zionism. Can you define Zionism?

Hellooooo @Moses_Young @HeIsHere @GaryA

Do any of you enjoy a game of chess once in a while?
Well, what you have witnessed is yet ANOTHER checkmate.

Only the latest of many.
Do you perceive this to be the case? Probably, as I hear no cogent rebuttals.
Do you desire to admit your error? Unlikely to say the least.

Here is an example of "checkmate". You know, backed into a corner with no escape.

Luk 20:44
David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?

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BTW @HeIsHere , your assertions that DNA studies proving something or other about present day Jews in the land NOT in fact being
legitimate sons of Jacob MUST be equally applied to @Moses_Young as well, see as we are 2000 years past the 70AD destruction of all Jewish family records. Are you willing to admit that?

Or is @Moses_Young a special case where somehow YOU KNOW that he can absolutely PROVE that he is a "true Jew" of the lineage of Jacob?

Whoops......

You are rarely entertaining. A valuable trait to possess BTW.

As for Zionism....it is irrelevant.
Thats my definition. Irrelevant.

God's definition, however is all that matters. God prophetical truth is all that matters.
And His definition of this present state of affairs in THE LAND OF ISRAEL is Ezekiel 37.
And of course Ezekiel 24, concatenated with Leviticus 26 and so on and so forth.

I'm sure you have no idea whatsoever of what I am speaking about regarding these passages, which of course
lends credence to the very high probability that I know exactly what I am talking about whereas you not.

Ouch, that stings!






oh indubitably, it must bestow upon this virtual premise a magnanimous aura of verisimilitude, elevating the staggering likelihood to celestial heights that you possess an unparalleled acumen and an encyclopedic profundity of insight, in stark contrast to my own lamentable state of bewildering ignorance and intellectual destitution. Indeed, it confers upon you an illustrious and resplendent aura of unequivocal veracity, catapulting the already astronomical probability into the stratosphere of the ineffable, that you command a prodigious and incomprehensible mastery of cerebral prowess and an unfathomable ocean of epistemological wisdom, in glaring juxtaposition to my own pitiable abyss of stupefying perplexity and cognitive impoverishment.

Oh, most revered and exalted entity known as CV, I humbly prostrate myself before thy ineffable and celestial majesty, ardently beseeching thee to impart upon my unworthy being the limitless and transcendent expanse of thy unparalleled wisdom! I entreat thee with the utmost zeal and imploration, PLEASE!!


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oh indubitably, it must bestow upon this virtual premise a magnanimous aura of verisimilitude, elevating the staggering likelihood to celestial heights that you possess an unparalleled acumen and an encyclopedic profundity of insight, in stark contrast to my own lamentable state of bewildering ignorance and intellectual destitution. Indeed, it confers upon you an illustrious and resplendent aura of unequivocal veracity, catapulting the already astronomical probability into the stratosphere of the ineffable, that you command a prodigious and incomprehensible mastery of cerebral prowess and an unfathomable ocean of epistemological wisdom, in glaring juxtaposition to my own pitiable abyss of stupefying perplexity and cognitive impoverishment.

Oh, most revered and exalted entity known as CV, I humbly prostrate myself before thy ineffable and celestial majesty, ardently beseeching thee to impart upon my unworthy being the limitless and transcendent expanse of thy unparalleled wisdom! I entreat thee with the utmost zeal and imploration, PLEASE!!


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You are rarely entertaining. A valuable trait to possess BTW.

How did you do that ... impressive indeed!!

@Yahshua possesses a far more valuable trait - a well-balanced mixture of honesty, humility, maturity, and --- oh - have you seen post #2325? - he can be entertaining as well...

Ad hominem. I've yet to read anything related to the discussion from you.

Ouch, that stings!






oh indubitably, it must bestow upon this virtual premise a magnanimous aura of verisimilitude, elevating the staggering likelihood to celestial heights that you possess an unparalleled acumen and an encyclopedic profundity of insight, in stark contrast to my own lamentable state of bewildering ignorance and intellectual destitution. Indeed, it confers upon you an illustrious and resplendent aura of unequivocal veracity, catapulting the already astronomical probability into the stratosphere of the ineffable, that you command a prodigious and incomprehensible mastery of cerebral prowess and an unfathomable ocean of epistemological wisdom, in glaring juxtaposition to my own pitiable abyss of stupefying perplexity and cognitive impoverishment.

Oh, most revered and exalted entity known as CV, I humbly prostrate myself before thy ineffable and celestial majesty, ardently beseeching thee to impart upon my unworthy being the limitless and transcendent expanse of thy unparalleled wisdom! I entreat thee with the utmost zeal and imploration, PLEASE!!


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You are rarely entertaining. A valuable trait to possess BTW.
As for Zionism....it is irrelevant.
Thats my definition. Irrelevant.

God's definition, however is all that matters. God prophetical truth is all that matters.
And His definition of this present state of affairs in THE LAND OF ISRAEL is Ezekiel 37.
And of course Ezekiel 24, concatenated with Leviticus 26 and so on and so forth.

I'm sure you have no idea whatsoever of what I am speaking about regarding these passages, which of course
lends credence to the very high probability that I know exactly what I am talking about whereas you not.

Oh He did, I used to think just like you. It didn't take much study at all to see the errors I had been taught.

I'm not trying to change your mind. I will ask you this however; is it even possible for you at this point to read the scriptures for what they actually say, to see the words themselves, minus the dispensational lenses? If you can do this, you will quickly arrive at the conclusion that the amount of scriptural manipulation required to arrive at these wild conclusions is remarkable, remarkably heretical and antithetical to everything taught by the church fathers as well as history itself, unreliable as it may be.

I mean no disrespect as I am sure you hold your views in sincerity and came by them honestly. The same cannot be said for the promoters of this aberrant theological system.

There are alternative views, and those of us who hold some of these views are likely neither hateful or antisemitic. Especially considering that we actually understand what a Semite is, but that's another discussion. I hate evil. And even then I guard my heart against excess, knowing that God loves all people and it is not His will that any should perish.

News flash pal.

YOU murdered Jesus. It was YOUR sin that put Him on that cross.

Jesus did NOT lay His murder at the feet of those that actually did the nailing.

And stop with the hate that the Jews in Israel aren’t really Jews nonsense.

True Christians ABSOLUTELY worship a Jew!

You and your ilk need to be constantly reminded that Jesus was, is, and always will remain a Jew!

I’ve come across some of your kind that hate the Jews so much that refuse to even acknowledge that Jesus is a Jew.

Who's kingdom is not of this world.

Peculiar hatred = telling the truth

We are accused of hatred all the time and that is considered completely acceptable and applauded even with no basis in reality.

There are some here who believe Israel does no wrong ever ( the most moral army, discriminate bombing etc.,) and yet when the atrocities that they do in fact commit are put forward, which are verifiable, we receive red x's of called anti-semite etc., etc.,

Maybe you should accept the fact that that little country is a proxy for US imperialism in the area no more and no less.
Biden admitted that several times.
And there is no emotion involved when statement of facts are made.

Until it is. Stay tuned.

Entertaining?
Brazen,arrogant,pride filled are entertaining? He calls himself after the Hebrew name of our Lord.

I was ready yesterday.