Applying God's Word to Politics

Applying Christian beliefs to politics has been problematic ever since Peter told the Sanhedrin "We must obey God rather than men!" (Acts 5:29)

How should we do this in the current political situation to issues such as national borders, abortion, globalism and lawfare?

We don't. We don't mix politics with God. We never legislate religion because we become like some fundamentalist Muslim countries.
We can never make someone believe what we want, otherwise the Most High would have made us robots to begin with since The Garden.
We can lead someone to water but we can't make them drink.

This is why we separate these topics.
In this election, i am hoping that Trump wins to counterbalance the insanity from the left.

Politics is inseparable from religion. The more politics falls in line with God the more that nation or polity will be blessed. The more against God a nation or polity becomes the more they will be cursed until they reach the point of no return and are only worth being destroyed. Thus it has ever been.

But Eli1, you DO mix biblical teaching in order to judge that Trump is a better choice in the current election than the Dems who espouse Marxism, which is atheistic. While we cannot "make" someone believe what is better, we can and should try to persuade them to drink from the water of life--correct?

SonJudgment, while I agree with your statement, now I would like us to discuss more specifically what policies fall more in line with God's teachings.

Over...

We can round up everyone who has come here seeking a better life, those hoping to start over in a Christian nation, and put them in detention camps. Then ship them all back where they came from. That would be a good start wouldn't it.

Well it depends on the topic. That's where politics and religion are both pretty vast and so why they intersect much. So for a very easy example like abortion, the correct thing to do then to bring the nation more in line with God would be to ban abortion, that's a pretty clear cut issue. A more nuanced issue would be like you mention with globalism, one could argue that globalism should be totally shunned on the basis of it brings the false and alien religions and promotes tolerating them, among other bad habits and customs, and even to a degree globalism as in just unfettered "immigration" is actually one of the most ultimate curses in the Bible which of course is a very famous mess up that ancient Israel and Judah committed that ultimately got them destroyed. On the other hand one could argue for a measured view of globalism in that trade and diplomacy are acceptable, and even immigration in the sense that the aliens give up their alien religions and become Christians and integrate into the nation is just fine as even David and the early part of Solomon's reign were marked by this and there was no real issue against this.

Actually, not so fast. It may be that God is fulfilling the prophecy about the Gospel being preached to the world before the end (MT 24:14) by this means. What the Dems intend for evil God will use to do good. (Cf. GN 45:5-8)

We can always revoke the temporary protected status of migrants who are here legally such as those in Springfield, OH. Just make up some lies about them, like they're eating the dogs and cats and geese, and get them the heck outta here. I'm sure God will smile on our Christian virtue.

The only migrants the discussion of open borders should be concerned with are those who are here illegally, even if abetted by the globalists.

Well, it's part of the MAGA/Christian nationalist party platform. Are you saying it's unchristian, or that we just shouldn't be concerned with it?

I think the Christian or right thing is to invite folks into our country in a vetted manner just as we invite people into our home.

America is being invaded. Stopping that would be a good start.

How is another matter.

op: applying God's Word to politics?
If this is in the BDF, how come there is very little discussion of The Bible, eh?:
I believe Those verses apply to the prophecies of [ Future ] "Great Tribulation For Israel"

How about these, in the Current [ Mystery ] Age Of Grace, For The Body Of Christ?:

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Amen.

1 Timothy 2:1-4

Globalists will often accuse nationalists of being "islolationists"; but nationalism =/= isolationism.

International trade, diplomacy, and controlled migration are characteristics of nationalism; not only are they acceptable, they are highly desirable.

I’ve wondered about the inclusion of geese here, I had always considered them as a food item, not that I have ever eaten any of that particular type of fowl.

Absolutely not.
As a Christian, Trump has zero Christian values that i hold, but i see Trump as a balance to an equation. The lesser of two evils so to speak.
I have never voted for presidential candidates and i wanted to vote for Clinton's second term once but i wasn't a citizen back then and i was too young to understand how the system works here.
These waves of history are bigger than us so i see myself as insignificant but i realize that i am part of a whole.
If i lived on a swing state i would absolutely vote but since i live in a partisan state it doesn't matter if i vote for Mickey Mouse or Trump, because my vote will be overwritten by the electoral college.
But if i lived on a swing state i would absolutely vote for Trump to balance the equation and be part of the wave, but not because it has anything to do with God or Kingdom of God.

Well, I trust that you saw the two passages that I applied to the issue of open borders and I encourage you to cite the Bible regarding whichever political issue that you want to discuss.

Mixing: for me, I see is not a good thing
To understand why Law is in place, it is not for the People of Faith in the living God for them to not go against truth. Psalm 1
The Law was put in place for the Law breakers, not to continue in breaking Laws of good for us the people to see to not. steal, kill or destroy anyone ever.
Ask, receive and see new in the Living God for you too, in the risen Son Jesus, after he took away under Law to see the truth of all Law and then be made new in love to all, with the same mercy and truth given you too from God through risen Son for you too, thank you

Living Bible

“Well,” you may be saying, “what terrible people you have been talking about!” But wait a minute! You are just as bad. When you say they are wicked and should be punished, you are talking about yourselves, for you do these (have done them) very same things. And we know that God, in justice, will punish anyone who does such things as these. Do you think that God will judge and condemn others for doing them and overlook you when you do (have done) them, too? Don’t you realize how patient he is being with you? Or don’t you care? Can’t you see that he has been waiting all this time without punishing you, to give you time to turn from your sin? His kindness is meant to lead you to repentance.


Living Bible

Such singing it was! It shook the Temple to its foundations, and suddenly the entire sanctuary was filled with smoke.
Then I said, “My doom is sealed, for I am a foul-mouthed sinner, a member of a sinful, foul-mouthed race; and I have looked upon the King, the Lord of heaven’s armies.”
Then one of the mighty angels flew over to the altar and with a pair of tongs picked out a burning coal. He touched my lips with it and said, “Now you are pronounced ‘not guilty’ because this coal has touched your lips. Your sins are all forgiven.”

But Eli1, you apply biblical teaching in order to judge that Trump is a better presidential candidate than the Dems who hold even fewer Christian values.

Remember that votes are for the purpose of saving our country from atheist Marxists/Globalists policies, NOT to indicate approval politicians' personal sins. You DO want future generations to be blessed with at least the same quality of life that previous generations passed on to us, don't you?