The hatred of Jews

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Moses_Young said:
The irony is that you are the one having to insert a 2000-year gap that is nowhere spoken about in scripture to determine that the prince that shall come is the anti-Christ - the Satan-man. Kind of a poor prophecy if it was 2000 years out. To do your switcheroo, you are also denying the works of Christ - the interpretation I hold to comes from the plain reading of scripture with no hidden 2000-year gaps required, it attaches full importance to the completed works of Christ, and makes complete sense that there is no longer Jew or Gentile, but all are one in Christ Jesus.

Taken from the link below.

https://christian.net/resources/daniels-70th-week-future-or-fulfilled/

5. “TO FINISH THE TRANSGRESSION”, or literally, “to finish transgression.” As Jesus was dying, he cried: “It is FINISHED.” At Calvary, Jesus finished transgression by becoming sin for us. No future sacrifice can ever finish transgression; it was finished at Calvary (Hebrews 9:15). “He was wounded for our TRANSGRESSIONS” (Isaiah 53:5).

6. “TO MAKE AN END OF SINS.” Here the basic thought is repeated. If we understand the glorious significance of what was accomplished at Calvary, we know that here there was truly an end made of sins.

Jesus, who came “to save his people from their sins”, accomplished this when he “put away sin by the sacrifice of himself” (Mt. 1:21; Heb. 9:26). “It is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins… But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever…hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified…And their sins… remember no more” (Hebrews 10:4-11). The old system of sacrifices could never make an end of sins, but Christ by the sacrifice of himself did make an end of sins, even as the prophecy had said!

John announced him as “the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sins of the world” (John 1:29). “Christ died for our sins” (1 Corinthians 15:3). He “bare our sins in his own body on the tree” (l Peter 2:24) and “hath once suffered for sins” (3:18). “He was manifested to take away our sins” (l John 3:5). This “end of sins” was accomplished at Calvary.

All of this does not mean, of course, that right at this point men quit sinning. This was not the case. But what the scripture does mean is that at Calvary the eternal sacrifice for sin was made, so that any and allópast, present, or future ówho will be forgiven of sins will be forgiven because our Lord’ s death almost 2,000 years ago made an “end of sins”!

7. “TO MAKE RECONCILIATION FOR INIQUITY.” The word reconciliation used here is the same word that is used so frequently in the book of Leviticus where it is rendered “to make atonement.” This, too, was part of our Lord’s redemptive work. Surely “reconciliation” is a present reality because of Calvary!

Jesus, “our merciful and faithful high priest” made “RECONCILIATION for the sins of the people” (Hebrews 2:17). “Having made peace through the blood…to RECONCILE all things unto himself…and you, that were sometimes alienated…hath he RECONCILED…through death” (Colossians. 1:20-22; Ephesians. 2:16).

“God was in Christ, RECONCILING the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of RECONCILIATION” (2 Corinthians 5:19). Plainly, “reconciliation for iniquity” was accomplished by Jesus, for he “gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all INIQUITY” (Titus 2:14), and “the Lord hath laid on him the INIQUITY of us all” (Isaiah 53:6).

8. ”TO BRING IN EVER LASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS.” This too was accomplished by the redemptive work of Christ! The great redemption chapter of Isaiah 53 had prophesied: “My righteous servant shall make many RIGHTEOUS.” Paul put it this way: “By the righteousness of one…shall many be made RIGHTEOUS… unto eternal life by Jesus Christ” (Romans 5:17-21). He who came “to fulfill all righteousness” (Matthew 3:15) and who “loved righteousness, and hated iniquity”, was “anointed” of God (Hebrews. 1:9) and made unto us wisdom, and RIGHTEOUSNESS, and sanctification, and redemption” (1 Corinthians. 1:30). “Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto RIGHTEOUSNESS” (1 Peter 2:24). “Even the RIGHTEOUSNESS of God…through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood to declare his RIGHTEOUSNESS for the remission of sins” (Romans 3:21-26). “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the RIGHTEOUSNESS of God in him” (2 Corinthians 5:21). “Everyone that doeth RIGHTEOUSNESS is born of him” (1 John 2:29).

Taking all of these verses into consideration, we ask: Did Christ in his coming to earth provide righteousness through his redemptive work? All Christians acknowledge that he did. We ask then: Was not this righteousness that he brought in everlasting? Of course. Surely no Christians would deny that the righteousness of Christ is “everlasting righteousness.”

“By his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained ETERNAL REDEMPTION ” everlasting righteousness” for us” (Hebrews. 9:12). This eternal or everlasting righteousness is contrasted to the old sacrifices under the law which were only of a temporary nature. But Christ, once for all time, offered himself thus providing, as the prophecy of Daniel had said, “everlasting righteousness.”

One only has to read the great redemption passages of Romans, Corinthians, Colossians, Ephesians, and Hebrews to see how an “end” of transgressions and sins, “reconciliation for iniquity”, and “everlasting righteousness” were all accomplished at Calvary by our Lord Jesus Christ!

In view of this, we see no basis for the futurist teaching that none of these things have yet been fulfilled, but are to be linked with a supposed seventieth week at the end of the age! To teach such is contradictory and tends to take away from the glory of that great redemption of Calvary which so beautifully and completely fulfilled these prophecies!

9. “TO SEAL UP VISION AND PROPHECY”, or literally, “to seal up vision and prophet.” The use of the metaphor “to seal” is derived from the ancient custom of attaching a seal to a document to show that it was genuine (See 1 Kings 21:8; Jeremiah. 32:10, 11; cf. John 6:27; 1 Corinthians. 9:2). Christ “sealed” Old Testament prophecy by fulfilling what was written of him.

Repeatedly we read concerning him: “…that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets.” Acts 3:18 says: “Those things which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer he hath so fulfilled:” Truly Jesus fulfilled what was written in the visions and prophecies of the Old Testament concerning him, and thus he “sealed” them showed that they were genuine. ‘They are they”, he said, “which testify of me” (John 5:39). “All the prophets and the law prophesied until John” (Matthew 11:13), then John presented Jesus as he that was to be “made manifest to Israel.” Jesus was the one that was to come and we look for none other. He is the fulfillment of vision and prophecy.

10. “HE SHALL CONFIRM THE COVENANT.” When Jesus instituted the Lord’ s supper, representative of his shed blood for the remission of sins, he said: ‘This is my blood of the new testament [covenant], which is shed for many for the remission of sins” (Matthew 26:28). The word “testament” here and the word “covenant” are translated from exactly the same word in the New Testament. “How much more shall the blood of Christ…purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? And for this cause, he is the mediator of the new testament [covenant]” (Hebrews 9:14,15).

Jesus is called the “mediator of the new covenant” (Hebrews. 8:6), the “messenger of the covenant” (Malachi. 3:1), and his shed blood is called “the blood of the everlasting covenant” (Hebrews. 12:24). Our Lord Jesus is the one who confirmed the covenant through his redemptive sacrifice at Calvary. And how beautifully this harmonizes with what we have already seen.
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Don't bother wasting your time on me bub.

I actually understand and know the prophetical truth of God's salvation to both the gentiles and the Jews.

Lucky me huh?
 
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HeIsHere said:
There is not a dual covenant people, there is only one.

John Darby lied and so did Cyrus Scofield and along with those who have exhalted this nonsense over the years.

All was fulfilled by the time Jesus arrived for the chosen people and what was stated in the OT, He is and will ever be all that is required, not some secular ethno-state and a rebuilt Temple which is blasphemous against Christ Jesus who is the New Temple.

And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Galatians 3:29

There is one body of Christ, one Church and people whose lineage helped fulfill the covenant need to hear the Gospel today like every other person on the planet and no they are not the group in Romans who were blinded for a time who Paul was writing about.

Darby coined the phrase "rightly divide" how about Dipseys start doing that as Paul meant it and apply correct sound hermeneutics.
It is called audience relevance.
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Several months ago, this little bit of information would have been poorly received around here. Perhaps my prayers are paying off, I'm surely not alone in this.
 
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Publican said:
Several months ago, this little bit of information would have been poorly received around here. Perhaps my prayers are paying off, I'm surely not alone in this.
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No, your prayers aren't paying off If you agree with HisH's POV on this. You may believe they are, but Satan is deceiving you. HisH is wrong. Abrahamic covenant was everlasting and unconditional. If you agree with her you're both believing heresy.
 
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cv5 said:
Are you kidding? I had the COVID scam nailed in about three weeks.
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LOL. It took me a month. Told my boss I was going home as I travel and work with the public. Read everything I could get my hands on about everything virus related. Came to find out viruses weren't even real. And that made sense. So much evil in high places, if they could engineer invisible death, they would have done it by now.

I've had to unlearn so much in the last 4 years, lost a lot of family, a wife, good friends. Been kicked out of dozens of places for loudly telling the truth about the scam. Banned from websites. Uncomfortable beyond belief in most churches these days. What a wild ride. Never been more at peace, not in the last thirty years, not since first meeting Christ. If we're doing it right, we've been using our time to draw closer to the Lord of Glory, He could literally arrive at any moment. No satanic temple is required.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
No, your prayers aren't paying off If you agree with HisH's POV on this. You may believe they are, but Satan is deceiving you. HisH is wrong. Abrahamic covenant was everlasting and unconditional. If you agree with her you're both believing heresy.
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Have a nice day ma'am.
 
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Publican said:
Several months ago, this little bit of information would have been poorly received around here. Perhaps my prayers are paying off, I'm surely not alone in this.
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Prayers are always good, surely we should continue, yet much damage has been done with countless lives lost and still being lost due to this error filled system of interpretation of scripture.
 
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HeIsHere said:
But we are the heretics. :rolleyes:

Were you ever a dispensationalist?
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I think I probably accepted it unthinkingly at one stage, but it never really made sense to me, especially the more I learned about it. I don't think it gels very well with Abraham's faith in God being credited to Him as righteousness, which is a clear scriptural teaching.
 
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Moses_Young said:
Hatred means different things to different people. The word has been weaponised in recent years to silence the criticism of Communists. The so-called Anti-Defamation League has always been crying wolf about hatred of Jews (many of the acts of hatred being committed by Jews themselves), but few know that the ADL was originally created after the lynching of a Jewish pedophile and murderer, after a corrupt governor overturned his rightful death sentence. If hatred means supporting justice for pedophiles and murderers irrespective of religion, call me a hater. But that's not how God sees hatred.

People simply don't like Nazis or homicidal eugenicists (or pedophiles/rapists/murderers, if we're talking the reason for the creation of the ADL). They didn't like it when the Germans did it in World War II, and they don't like the Israelis doing it today. Just because people side with the opposing side to the Nazis doesn't mean these people hate Germans or Israelis.

The Israeli government has committed sadistic and evil war crimes. The German Nazis had some good policies also, but as with the current regime in Israel, the evil far, far outweighed the good.

I hope the Nazis and war criminals in Israel get the same justice as the Nazis in Germany did circa 1945.
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Behold, an example of the OP topic appears.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Even if what you're sharing were facts, what has that to do with the price of tea in China.




So why aren't they being charged with them? Why hasn't Joe said it? He wants an out badly so why doesn't he say it?!




You're saying Netanyahu is a Nazi???!!
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That's how it reads. And not just Netanyahu.

Godwin's Law.:rolleyes:
 
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HeIsHere said:
But we are the heretics. :rolleyes:

Were you ever a dispensationalist?
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I would definitely say that you are Biblical illiterates. Undeniably so. And has been proven so over and over again resoundingly.
 
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PennEd said:
Fasten Your seatbelt

Israel begins retaliatory strikes against Iran following missile barrage targeting Israelis

https://www.foxnews.com/world/israe...-following-missile-barrage-targeting-israelis
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How dare Israel fight back. :confused:

Hamas ensconces itself among civilians. Hamas is a terror threat to their own people.

It is no surprise that the surrounding Muslim countries want Israel wiped from the face of the earth.

When 2000 missiles are fired into the Israel population it becomes obvious that agenda is underway.

The shame Biden,Harris,the Democrats in D.C and their culprit RINOS, will carry to the end of their days is that they think tiny Israel is being too aggressive in defending their right to exist.

Now tiny Israel has not just Hamas to fight against but also Iran.

It has all been prophesied. And yet, it's amazing to witness those who support terrorism and the extermination of the Jews,again.

Someone once equated Israel's leaders to the Nazis.

Besides the Godwin's Law fauxpas and no education as to the Nazi history, it is that kind of mind set that protested on our university campuses in support of Hamas terrorists and targeted Jewish staff and students there.

Hate must be learned. A tiny country surrounded by hateful enemies and having survived this long is there for a reason no mortal enemy has yet to overcome.

Those who don't stand with Israel join a huge terror community aligned against them. And yet, Israel is still there.

Man plans their way but God sets their steps.

May God continue to bless and protect Israel from all enemies both foreign and domestic.

And may he let Donald Trump win the White House November 5th so that Israel will have the full support of America's arsenal so to continue to survive the demons aligned against them.

Amen.
 
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Moses_Young said:
Only if you're a Democrat and you believe that disagreement is hatred. Thankfully, that regime doesn't seem to have long to go.
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Hatred isn't exclusive to partisanism.

Hatred is equating the leader of Israel and his cabinet with the Nazis and claiming they should be executed in a similar fashion.

Hatred is wanting Israel thus leaderless to then fall to their enemies.

I disagree with any excuse that now extends the aforementioned executions to Democrats in America is anything less than hatred.
 
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Hatred isn't exclusive to partisanism.

Hatred is equating the leader of Israel and his cabinet with the Nazis and claiming they should be executed in a similar fashion.
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Are you able to post the claim about execution, because I'm not sure it exists. But certainly, I do believe that the deliberate and wilful targeting and use of the military against civilians should be dealt with in a court of law. Don't you? Or you think it was wrong what the Allied powers did to the Nazis at the end of World War 2 for their war crimes?

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Hatred is wanting Israel this leaderless to then fall to their enemies.
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Again, I'm not sure anyone has actually posted that, and would argue it is not hatred. Hatred is the absence of love for people, not for governments - especially governments established by those who worship Satan, such as the Rothschilds. Those who assert that those guilty of murder (e.g. such as war criminals) should not stand justice for their crimes are actually supporting hatred. For the record, I don't particularly care if the Rothschild state of Israel retains its name or is renamed Palestine. What I would like to see are those guilty of the same war crimes as the Nazis put on trial for these war crimes, and for the murder to cease.

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I disagree with any excuse that now extends the aforementioned executions to Democrats in America is anything less than hatred.
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It sounds like you are a Democrat. If so, probably pointless to reason with you, as your opinion won't change until you see it change on the television.
 
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Only if you're a Democrat and you believe that disagreement is hatred. Thankfully, that regime doesn't seem to have long to go.
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Do you really think so? I'm nail biting over it while praying at the same time. There's one topic we can fully agree on. I swear if he wins I'm kissin' the first person I see on the lips, hopefully that will be hubby. I'm gonna be that relieved !!
 
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Do you really think so? I'm nail biting over it while praying at the same time. There's one topic we can fully agree on. I swear if he wins I'm kissin' the first person I see on the lips, hopefully that will be hubby. I'm gonna be that relieved !!
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In my opinion - Trump and the military have been in control of this whole thing for 4 years. At the time, if Trump had overtly taken power (and he would have been in the right to do so), there would have been a civil war, and probably America could never have recovered from it (imagine what the international community would say and how they would withdraw support). I think there will be some problem on election day - a big problem - there is a cybersecurity "exercise" scheduled for the day, and we all know these exercises have a habit of turning into live events. There are also preparations for a mass casualty event. There is also the lead-up to WW3 - Israel, Iran, Russia etc.

I believe Trump will be "taken out" of the picture, either by an assassination attempt or arrest, but I believe this will then be justification for the military to step in overtly (it has been covert until now). Apparently, the insurrections planned by the Democrats will be put down quickly. I believe it will be a messy period, but that Trump and the military will come out on top in the end. Stock up on food, don't get dismayed by the propaganda, pass the ammunition and pray! :p
 
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Are you able to post the claim about execution, because I'm not sure it exists.
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You know it exists. You posted it on your post 14 at the very end.


But certainly, I do believe that the deliberate and wilful targeting and use of the military against civilians should be dealt with in a court of law.
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Unfortunately no one has yet brought Hamas and their allies to court for those offenses.


Or you think it was wrong what the Allied powers did to the Nazis at the end of World War 2 for their war crimes?
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There you go again.

Again, I'm not sure anyone has actually posted that,
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You have .

and would argue it is not hatred. Hatred is the absence of love for people, not for governments -

It sounds like you are a Democrat. If so, probably pointless to reason with you, as your opinion won't change until you see it change on the television.....
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A bit of news here for you. Governments are comprised of people. When you say Net and his cabinet should be executed for war crimes as the Nazis were after WW2 that's hatred.
And it does not go unnoticed you ignore Hamas and Iran terrorism. Especially when Hamas struck first on October 10 with 2000 missiles shot into Israel.
Those civilians who were murdered in Israel? What about them?

The partisan attack angle is weak. Try some other tactic.
 
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