What should we expect to happen next?

What should we expect to happen next?

The first seal, the White Horse, the AC, the Antichrist. And remember he comes in peaceably and obtains the kingdoms with flatteries.

Daniel 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.”

Maybe this is when he first shows his face or when he signs the peace deal.

So I think this is the thing we should expect next, but like they said about Jesus and His coming the first time, and His death and His resurrection, nobody really understood the prophecies completely until it had happened. So maybe we should keep that in mind. But us being the children we are, God's children, we like to think we know what's coming and to a degree we do.

Please put your opinion in. It would be most welcome as we are all in the same boat and we're all brothers and sisters, and we need to talk about it, and do a think tank.

The second seal, the Red Horse, takes peace from the earth and that they should kill one another.

The third seal, a black horse with a pair of balances in his hand, and everything becomes expensive, very expensive, after wars, after lots of killing everything is expensive and harder to get, but you will still be able to get oil and wine.

The fourth seal, the pale horse. Now here comes the big wars. 25% of the population will suffer the effects of death and famine. And this is all before the Great Tribulation starts. This is the beginning of sorrow that Jesus spoke about.

So let's be kind to one another, have a loving heart and put in your opinion. Let's thrash it out, so we can have a better look at what's to come and what we should expect to happen next.

I think a lot more things are going to happen in this time slot, Before the Great Tribulation before the last 42 months. but I don't know how to go about starting up the conversation Even though I have tried already.

God bless everyone on Christian chat and please feel free to put your thoughts in the comments.

Daniel 9:27
Daniel 11:21
Matt 24.
Rev 6

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Good answers. Good thread. Matthew chapter 24. Jesus gave us signs of the end. We're at wars and rumors of wars. Jesus tells us nations rising against nation. Satan will come 6th trump as false Christ. He will bring peace and prosperity. It is esculating
China threatened twaian. North Korea threatened South korea. Iran and Israel conflict has escalated. Revelation chapter 13, the one world political system receives deadly wound in the 5 th trump. Satan as antichrist will heal the wound. Now it's one world religious system. The labor pains are intensifying. Nations against nation is one of signs Jesus gave. Thessalonians chapter 5. We don't want to be in category of children of darkness. They are bibillcy illiterate and know not what is happening. When they cry peace and safety, sudden destruction will come upon them. China, North Korea, Russia, and Iran have aligned. If anyone is familiar with Ezekiel chapter 38, then you understand.

Yes, we are to edify body of Christ. Share Gods Truth. Bible prophecy is happening. We don't want the counsel of the ungodly. Palsm chapter 1.

Peace.

hi thanks for your input. you seem to think the deadly wound is for a political system not a man. I always read it as a man, but I could be wrong. 12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

From my perspective, The white horse is the Holy Spirit going forth into battle at Pentecost.
Zechariah 10:3-5 New King James Version (NKJV)For the LORD of hosts will visit His flock, The house of Judah, And will make them as His royal horse in the battle. From him comes the cornerstone, From him the tent peg, From him the battle bow, From him every ruler together.

I see the earth as the church and the sea as the nations. The red horse I see as persecution of the church intiated at the death of Stephen.
Acts
8 And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.

2 And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him.

3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.

I see the black horse as the agricultural and economic collapse released upon the Jews for persecuting the church.
Acts 11:27-29 New King James Version (NKJV)And in these days prophets came from Jerusalem to Antioch. Then one of them, named Agabus, stood up and showed by the Spirit that there was going to be a great famine throughout all the world, which also happened in the days of Claudius Caesar (ruled AD 41-54).
But the spirit (oil) and the mercy (blood) of God still flowed.

i see the pale horse as the Roman Empire persecuting the church.
Rev. 6:[8] And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

I see

As God withdraws His spirit, the world becomes worse.

Those that have God's Spirit will be seperated from those that don't.

A sifting...

As the world gets worse, deception will cause the mark of the beast and persecution of the saints.

As we see the prophecies come to pass, understand that we are nearing the appearance of Antichrist (Satan), coming to earth claiming to be God, (Rev 12:7-9, II Thes 2:3-4). He will show great signs and wonders to deceive the world into worshipping him, thus causing a great falling away from the true God. God's elect know Satan is a fake and will be delivered up before him to expose his lies with the Holy Spirit speaking through them, (Mark 13:11). If you understand these things with clarity, you are blessed.

One body, many parts, making one body still, God won in Son Jesus for us to be able to endure without guilt or pride anymore, at least this I am starting started to see in glory hallelujah
I believe God and in this taking so long, remains as so for more to willingly turn to God in risen Son for them also, thank you Father and Son as Won (One)

This coming year will have an increase of chaos and turmoil in the world along with an increase in wars. By the feast of Trumpets in 2025 the one who will become the antichrist will sign a covenant with many including Israel for Israel will be tired of wars and looking for peace and security and Israel will have that time for 3 1/2 years till the evil one takes his seat in the temple of God.

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God will never remove his spirit. False teaching. Restrainer is the church

It's not that the Holy Spirit will LEAVE ("remove" as you put it), it's that His ROLE will change (no longer "restraining [AT PRESENT]").
Just like it "changed" per the words of Jesus (about that) in John 7:39.



If one COMPARES the language used, between 2Th2:7b-8a and that of Lam2:3-4, one can better see the IDEA:

--2Th2:7b-8a "the one restraining at present, will restrain, UNTIL out of the midst he become [come to be], AND THEN [kai tote] shall that Wicked be revealed...";

[compared with SIMILAR LANGUAGE in...]

--Lam2:3-4 "...he hath DRAWN BACK [/WITHDRAWN] his right hand FROM BEFORE the enemy..." (in essence, saying [to the enemy], "HAVE AT 'EM!" i.e. LIFTING THE RESTRAINT!! [unleashing "the enemy" onto them, so to speak... in THAT context])... This doesn't mean that His omnipresence has suddenly vanished / left this world's realm, NO!... but that His "role" (of RESTRAINING) has changed.

[and this Lam2 passage is in the context of "wrath" words (KEY!)... and note the similar language of "IN FLAMING FIRE" between Lam2:3 and that used in 2Th1:8 (speaking of the SAME "time-period" that chpt 2's "man of sin" will do all he is slated to do ["IN HIS TIME," aka the Trib yrs]; and note the REASONS behind the Lam2 passage, IOW what was going on back in that era... A great many "connections"...)]






So, "the one restraining AT PRESENT... [UNTIL]" can most certainly be the Spirit-indwelt Church WHICH IS HIS BODY... and yet NOT be the case that the Holy Spirit [who is omnipresent / God] Himself vanishes / leaves / is removed from this earthly realm; but rather HIS ROLE change (once we, "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY," go "UP"!--"... Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased-possession..." [that's US!] - Eph1:14a )

Okay,
just clearing things up....

can i reject the Holy Spirit? can people choose to ignore the Holy Spirit?
God will continually give The Holy Spirit to those that accept it.

Jesus stands at the door and knocks. He does not force His way in.

Do you think God will withdraw His Spirit from those that have choosen to reject Jesus?
Do you see an increase in the evil and destruction? All good comes from God and if God withdraws His Spirit the evil will not be checked.
As the curse of sin has grown to such proportions the Spirit of God, insulted, rejected, and abused, is being withdrawn from the earth. Just as fast as God's Spirit is taken away, Satan's cruel work will be done upon land and sea. Judgments by fire and flood will increase in fearfulness; for Satan claims his harvest of souls in the destruction.

But God does not leave His faithfaith. They are filled with His Spirit. Mat_5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. Mat_7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

Boy said what shall we expect next??

One thing for certain is the hatred of the jews will increase!

Second thing is who does Israel rely on----firm answer has been and still is America.

But this will change and we know it has to for another to come in and make a covenant with many-replacing America.

So what happens to America soon??

As we see the prophecies come to pass, understand that we are nearing the appearance of Antichrist.
agree but i don't think satan pretending to be Jesus is the antichrist, spoken of in Rev 13. the antichrist is already at work. the antichrist is controlled by satan. and satan has been an antichrist from the start of his rebellion. Rev 13 talks about 2 beast. worshiping the first beast. recieving the mark of the beast. political, religious powers.
Satan pretending to be Jesus will only reinforce the dictates of these two powers.

He will show great signs and wonders to deceive the world into worshipping him, thus causing a great falling away from the true God. God's elect know Satan is a fake and will be delivered up before him to expose his lies with the Holy Spirit speaking through them,

i agree.

He wont come in devil costumes, but a wolf in sheeps clothing. Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
like the temptation of Jesus, he used scripture. satan will use scriture again but just twisted enough to lead people away from the truth.

Satan himself cannot be the antichrist/

20 But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. Rev 19:20

10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. Rev 20:10

why does israel need to be literal?
when you look at DNA the prophecies can't be literal.

Isa 66:7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.
Isa 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
Gal 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
Gal 6:16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.
Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Rom 2:26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
Rom 2:27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

1Co 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
Eph 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Gal 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
Gal 3:9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. .....
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

It is clear that the body of Christ is spiritual israel
It is clear that it is the heart and faith that makes us heirs.

the mistake was made by israel when Jesus came the first time. they were looking for a worldly kingdom with a worldly king.

Im looking to heaven.
Mat_4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mat 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
Mat 6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
Mat 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Yes! free to choose to believe God or not is all that is left. Jesus at that cross first took on all sin, everything, all the nasty nines and dirty dozen (John 1:29), everything but "Unbelief to God" in risen Son for us each that did the work needed to get done for us to be viewed as if never sinned (Col 1:21-23)
Amazing Grace, great good news for us the people to stand in thanksgiving and praise, seeing for ourselves we can't do it as perfect as is done by Son for us all.
Beleive God, receive new from God and be new in God, each person knows once do beleive without a reason for any self gain here on earth first. At least me, thank you

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Why does it need to be literal?

Has to be or you are questioning the prophecies of the bible?

Is the antichrist going to sit in the temple and claim to be God?

Did his disciples teach us differently?

Do you understand the things that are shadow of things to come?

Do you understand why about 3000 souls were saved on the day of Pentecost?

Do you believe in a 7 year Tribulation?

Yes, the coming of the false-Messiah/Antichrist, appearing in Jerusalem, might be next.

But just prior, there may be a great war that will usher him in, like with what is happening in the middle east today.

The "great tribulation" is to be a time of "Peace and safety" like Apostle Paul showed in 1 Thess.5, and per what you stated from the Book of Daniel. And Jesus said as long as we hear of wars and rumors of war, the 'end' is not yet, the 'end' put for the trib.

This great contrast of a final war, and then with the false Messiah coming in to end and take rule to play Jesus Christ, and heal all the world's problems, is what will fool the majority into believing that false Messiah is God having returned.

We'll not see the four horsemen riding across the sky shooting arrows or swinging swords. Lawlessness will continue to abound more and more. Wars and rumor of wars will become more and more rampant. The anti-christ will not appear until the Church, which hinders him is taken out of the way, and the Jewish temple must be rebuilt by the midway point of the Great Tribulation for him to do so. The burning mountain that takes a third of the world's population and ships and pollutes a third of the rivers will be our first true sign that we're in the Tribulation. It will not hit in Russia as they're taken out when they attack Israel. So too for North Africa. Europe and China must meet at the end of the Tribulation.
That leaves southern North America and northern South America for its impact zone. The cities outside of the impact zone will undergo intense starvation and thirst leading to roving bands of the walking dead. I suspect that this will be, in its own way, an act of mercy on the Lord's part as the falling away of those who have remained babes-in-Christ and who abide outside of the impact zone will die as judgement begins at the house of God and who will be a part of the world's one third killed during this event; before they'll have time to be among those who will fall away, as foretold in scripture. IMO...