Acts 16:31

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jacko

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No. While your faith may influence others, this verse is simply showing that faith is necessary for you to be saved AND faith is necessary for your household to be saved. Pure and simple. Don’t read more into the verse than what is there. These people were Ronan gentiles. They likely had never heard of Jesus and certainly not His gospel. The first thing they had to do was believe in Him as the Son of God. This is why they had to be TAUGHT ( verse 32) before they could believe. Baptism is a vital part of the gospel of Christ (see Acts 8, the Ethiopian eunuch) and was part of what he was taught by Paul; this is proven by the fact that as soon as they were “TAUGHT”. They were all baptized immediately. (Verse 33).

I appreciate your response and input, but as you can see there is some division even amongst believers as for the baptism.
 

Pilgrimshope

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“Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.”
‭‭James‬ ‭4:17‬ ‭

If you have two identical twin boys one of them you take aside and explain all your rules to them and the other you never tell them any of your rules ……if they do something against your rules only one is guilty because guilt requires knowledge.

theres a difference in willful sin and ignorance a huge difference it’s not about which is forgiven after but about which is imputed to begin with

if you know your sinning and do it anyways your guilty and need repentance if you are sinning and don’t know it you aren’t guilty you need to hear and learn the rules and then after if you continue in then you become guilty by the knowledge of truth and your rebellion against it

theres a huge difference if you know Gods Will and don’t do it than if you don’t know his Will and don’t do it

one brings guilt the other never does until the knowledge comes first without the knowledge there is no way to transgress it
 
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That’s a beautiful verse, thank you.
I would like to refer you to John 14: 13-14 And whatever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask anything in my name, I will do it.
What is asked for is not for material things but what will glorify the Father. After living, dying, and rising, Jesus went back to the Father to get glorified. The Father's glory is His Holy Spirit. Jesus went back to the Father to receive his own kingdom or spiritual body made up of souls that he, through the Father's direction, baptizes with the Holy Spirit. It is the Father who gives us to the Son, and it is the Son who gives us (baptizes) the Holy Spirit.
When a person is baptized in the name of the Father, he is chosen by Him to receive recognition and repentance for sins committed and he will pray to the Father for forgiveness. When the gospel of the forgiveness of sins through Jesus Christ is preached and he believes, he has been baptized in the name of the Son. When, as John the Baptist declared that someone greater than himself would be baptizing with the Holy Spirit, the baptized person receives a portal through which the spirits (presence) of the Father and Son can reside in the being of the person. Just as the Son is the temple of the Father, we are the temple of the Son, which results in both of them being in our being. The Father and Son are one, and we become one with the Father and Son because we are connected by this portal called the Holy Spirit. They then fill us with the same love that they share, and change our motivation from love of self first to love for God first and everyone else as he loves himself. God judges the heart, and when the heart is full of His love, the person is obeying the Spirit of the Law and has been perfected. Read all of John 14.
I believe it is natural to love those that are near us and to pray for their salvation. When you display this love, people will open up to you and will listen (and so will the Father and Son). Have faith in the power of love and Christ will do what he says. I usually pray that the Father help me to do His will and bestow His grace on every
person I meet.
 

ForestGreenCook

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I want to make sure I am interpresting this right. For in Acts 16:31 (NKJV) "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household."

Does this mean, "my faith" will lead Christ to open their hearts and to be saved?
Yes, if the Holy Spirit within you has revealed the truth of Christ's doctrine, but if you believe that your faith can cause a person to be delivered eternally, then you have not been revealed the knowledge of Christ's doctrine.

Saved=delivered, salvation=deliverance and saves=delivers according to Strongs concordance.

The word "saved" in Acts 16 means that they were delivered from their unbelief.

When one of God's children, who has been born again, comes unto a knowledge of the truth he is delivered brom his unbelief. He was already delivered eternally by Christs death on the cross in which he had no part in. (1 Tim 2: 1-4).

The "all men" in 1 Tim 2:3 is all of the men that were preaching a false doctrine in 1 Tim 1:3.

In Romans 10:1-3 Paul is praying that Israel (God's people) might be delivered from their unbelief and come unto a knowledge of the truth.
 

jacko

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Yes, if the Holy Spirit within you has revealed the truth of Christ's doctrine, but if you believe that your faith can cause a person to be delivered eternally, then you have not been revealed the knowledge of Christ's doctrine.

Saved=delivered, salvation=deliverance and saves=delivers according to Strongs concordance.

The word "saved" in Acts 16 means that they were delivered from their unbelief.

When one of God's children, who has been born again, comes unto a knowledge of the truth he is delivered brom his unbelief. He was already delivered eternally by Christs death on the cross in which he had no part in. (1 Tim 2: 1-4).

The "all men" in 1 Tim 2:3 is all of the men that were preaching a false doctrine in 1 Tim 1:3.

In Romans 10:1-3 Paul is praying that Israel (God's people) might be delivered from their unbelief and come unto a knowledge of the truth.
I have faith that God will save my household (parents) because I already believed it, and it will be done according to my faith and his promise through his mighty name.

God must honor my request, because I'm made perfect through Christ, and his word is also perfect, so it's done.
 

jacko

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To be clear, HE will open their hearts and honor my prayers.