The Mark of the Beast

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Randy4u2c

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How do you receive this mark in your forehead and hands? Through lack of knowledge and deception. II Thes 2:3-4 and Rev 12:7-9 tell us that Satan will be cast out of heaven to earth and will come claiming to be God and will deceive the people into worshipping him. Many are not aware that Satan comes first before Jesus and will show great signs and wonders to deceive them. They will think he is God and receive his mark of deception in their forehead (brain) because they think he is God and will worship him. They will also work for his fake ministry to bring in converts thus receiving the mark in their hands which is symbolic of working for his ministry. Mark 13:9-11 tells us that God's elect will be delivered up before Satan to testify against him and expose his lies with the Holy Spirit speaking through them. When people hear the truth of this testimony, many will be ashamed that they were deceived.
 

Omegatime

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How do you receive this mark in your forehead and hands? Through lack of knowledge and deception. II Thes 2:3-4 and Rev 12:7-9 tell us that Satan will be cast out of heaven to earth and will come claiming to be God and will deceive the people into worshipping him. Many are not aware that Satan comes first before Jesus and will show great signs and wonders to deceive them. They will think he is God and receive his mark of deception in their forehead (brain) because they think he is God and will worship him. They will also work for his fake ministry to bring in converts thus receiving the mark in their hands which is symbolic of working for his ministry. Mark 13:9-11 tells us that God's elect will be delivered up before Satan to testify against him and expose his lies with the Holy Spirit speaking through them. When people hear the truth of this testimony, many will be ashamed that they were deceived.
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Your first mistake is Satan will not be the Antichrist
 

Pilgrimshope

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How do you receive this mark in your forehead and hands? Through lack of knowledge and deception. II Thes 2:3-4 and Rev 12:7-9 tell us that Satan will be cast out of heaven to earth and will come claiming to be God and will deceive the people into worshipping him. Many are not aware that Satan comes first before Jesus and will show great signs and wonders to deceive them. They will think he is God and receive his mark of deception in their forehead (brain) because they think he is God and will worship him. They will also work for his fake ministry to bring in converts thus receiving the mark in their hands which is symbolic of working for his ministry. Mark 13:9-11 tells us that God's elect will be delivered up before Satan to testify against him and expose his lies with the Holy Spirit speaking through them. When people hear the truth of this testimony, many will be ashamed that they were deceived.
Did you notice on revelation all of the sevens ? Even in the Bible Gods things are often marked with seven


In the book of revelation it reveals a false church clamor ng ti be the chrich of the lamb , but the words the doctrine it speaks is the word of the dragon

it appears as a lamb but it speaks like a dragon , it’s through this ministry that they are marked and forced to serve the beast and bear his mark

abut tbey think they are on the chrich of the lamb hearing his doctrine it’s really satans this false chrich wouod even show fraudulent wonders and works to deceive people

“And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, and deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:11-14, 16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

notice before this God marks his people on their foreheads and then a false chrich claiming to be of God but the doctrine is of Satan the words they are preaching

It’s a deception a false messiah and his church false teachers and doctrine

“ the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. “

deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do”

“saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.”

notice it’s a false messiah Jesus truly does and rose the beast is fraudulently offering himself as the one who died and rose up again it’s a false chrirtianity or false chrich based on the words of the dragons beast who appears as a lamb


False doctrine is causing them to be deceived and marked as the devils people rether than hearing the truth and being sealed as gods children

“he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”

revelation shows the true church and a fake one
 

homwardbound

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Hebrews 3:4
For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God.
God is the true Church. originally known to us in the Bible Greek translation as the Ecclesia, (the Called out ones) which has gotten mistranslated as Church, which in Greek means building
1 Peter 2:5
ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God

We the people individually are indwell by God Father of Risen Son, once on e believes God. God comes in and we are raptured, then and there, whether still here on earth or not


Authorized (King James) Version
1 Cor. 3:9-11
9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye areGod’s building.
10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Read full chapter

The point is: God won by Son once for everyone, not to have to do anything to be saved, Burt believe God in Son as risen for you to be rthart too, right now by God for you through Son to you. Wait a sec, I believe God, I am as good as raptured presently in thanksgiving and praise to God, woe

Authorized (King James) Version



6 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. 2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
3 And one cried unto another, and said,
Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts:
the whole earth is full of his glory.
4 And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.
5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts. 6 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: 7 and he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.

This, be what Son Jesus has done in being raised from the dead for us the people to believe, he did take away sin as said in John 1:29, that John said would happen.


Authorized (King James) Version
30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Then got risen from the dead for new life for anyone that turns to God Father in belief, receives and is made new from the first day anyone believes God


Ephesians 1:13

Authorized (King James) Version

13 in whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Amazing grace given free of charge from God to us, to either believe and be set free or not be set free, up to each person individually, not a Church building Thanks
 

wolfwint

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How do you receive this mark in your forehead and hands? Through lack of knowledge and deception. II Thes 2:3-4 and Rev 12:7-9 tell us that Satan will be cast out of heaven to earth and will come claiming to be God and will deceive the people into worshipping him. Many are not aware that Satan comes first before Jesus and will show great signs and wonders to deceive them. They will think he is God and receive his mark of deception in their forehead (brain) because they think he is God and will worship him. They will also work for his fake ministry to bring in converts thus receiving the mark in their hands which is symbolic of working for his ministry. Mark 13:9-11 tells us that God's elect will be delivered up before Satan to testify against him and expose his lies with the Holy Spirit speaking through them. When people hear the truth of this testimony, many will be ashamed that they were deceived.
I dont think so. No born again believer will get the mark of the beast!
✝ Revelation 13:8

"And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."

Bible
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kjv.BIBLE

If someones name is not written in the bbok of life! Is as child of God your name written in the book of Life? I would say yes!
As children of God we must have no fear to worship Satan. Also I believe that before this will come we are already with the Lord.
 

TheDivineWatermark

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Randy4u2c said:
[...]II Thes 2:3-4 and Rev 12:7-9 tell us that Satan will be cast out of heaven to earth and will come claiming to be God and will deceive the people into worshipping him. Many are not aware that Satan comes first before Jesus and will show great signs and wonders to deceive them.
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Your first mistake is Satan will not be the Antichrist
I agree with Omegatime on this point.



II Thes 2:3-4 and Rev 12:7-9 tell us that Satan will be cast out of heaven to earth and will come claiming to be God and will deceive the people into worshipping him.
While it is true that Satan and his angels will be cast down (to the earth) when there are 1260 days remaining till Christ's Second Coming to the earth (Rev19), it is not true that "Satan" IS "the Antichrist / man of sin" (who I believe will be a "human").



Paul in 2Th2 (the entire passage) distinguishes the THREE points in time [i.e. a chronology, of sorts] which pertain to "the man of sin" (and each of these correspond with other related passages elsewhere, proving this "chronology / sequence"):

--[BEGINNING of Trib/7-yrs] "whose COMING / ARRIVAL / ADVENT / PRESENCE / PAROUSIA" of the man of sin (2Th2:9a[-10a],8a,6b[,3c,4a]);


--[MIDDLE of Trib/7-yrs] "[who...] ... SITTETH in the temple of God shewing himself that he is god" (2Th2:4b); and


--[END of Trib/7-yrs] "whom the Lord SHALL CONSUME... SHALL DESTROY with the MANIFESTATION of the presence/parousia of Him/Jesus" (2Th2:8b)






IOW, Paul is covering the ENTIRE "7-year period" in this whole passage, and by viewing other RELATED PASSAGES ELSEWHERE (which I didn't place in this post) we can see where each of these "plug in" to the whole, time-wise.

He is not just covering 3.5 yrs, for example (in this passage), as many suppose that he is.




And, yeah... "Satan" is NOT "the man of sin" [/the Antichrist] who is a "human". (Rev20:10 DISTINGUISHES them.)


Besides, the text in2Th2 never states that [something like] when he comes is when he will sit in the temple claiming to be god/God. That is an assumption, which I believe is FALSE based on the other related passages showing us the "sequence of events" so to speak (regarding him/this person), and their "timing" issues.
 

Bruce_Leiter

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How do you receive this mark in your forehead and hands? Through lack of knowledge and deception. II Thes 2:3-4 and Rev 12:7-9 tell us that Satan will be cast out of heaven to earth and will come claiming to be God and will deceive the people into worshipping him. Many are not aware that Satan comes first before Jesus and will show great signs and wonders to deceive them. They will think he is God and receive his mark of deception in their forehead (brain) because they think he is God and will worship him. They will also work for his fake ministry to bring in converts thus receiving the mark in their hands which is symbolic of working for his ministry. Mark 13:9-11 tells us that God's elect will be delivered up before Satan to testify against him and expose his lies with the Holy Spirit speaking through them. When people hear the truth of this testimony, many will be ashamed that they were deceived.
Notice the following passage, in which Jesus tells his followers that Satan fell from heaven already:

Luk 10:17 The seventy-two returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in your name!”
Luk 10:18 And he said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.
Luk 10:19 Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you.
Luk 10:20 Nevertheless, do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.”
 

Saul-to-Paul

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And, yeah... "Satan" is NOT "the man of sin" [/the Antichrist] who is a "human". (Rev20:10 DISTINGUISHES them.)
Isaiah 14:12-16 KJV
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
 

j55

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How do you receive this mark in your forehead and hands? Through lack of knowledge and deception. II Thes 2:3-4 and Rev 12:7-9 tell us that Satan will be cast out of heaven to earth and will come claiming to be God and will deceive the people into worshipping him. Many are not aware that Satan comes first before Jesus and will show great signs and wonders to deceive them. They will think he is God and receive his mark of deception in their forehead (brain) because they think he is God and will worship him. They will also work for his fake ministry to bring in converts thus receiving the mark in their hands which is symbolic of working for his ministry. Mark 13:9-11 tells us that God's elect will be delivered up before Satan to testify against him and expose his lies with the Holy Spirit speaking through them. When people hear the truth of this testimony, many will be ashamed that they were deceived.
Excellent job Randy. I can move on.
Keep plowing. Peace.
 

homwardbound

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Randy4u2c said:
How do you receive this mark in your forehead and hands? Through lack of knowledge and deception. II Thes 2:3-4 and Rev 12:7-9 tell us that Satan will be cast out of heaven to earth and will come claiming to be God and will deceive the people into worshipping him. Many are not aware that Satan comes first before Jesus and will show great signs and wonders to deceive them. They will think he is God and receive his mark of deception in their forehead (brain) because they think he is God and will worship him. They will also work for his fake ministry to bring in converts thus receiving the mark in their hands which is symbolic of working for his ministry. Mark 13:9-11 tells us that God's elect will be delivered up before Satan to testify against him and expose his lies with the Holy Spirit speaking through them. When people hear the truth of this testimony, many will be ashamed that they were deceived.

God will assuredly tell us the people to listen and hear and has through out the Bible done that, not that all is interpreted correctly, the Bible is not Inherent. The Greek written testament is written by the disciples is inherent. The interpretations are not. We are left with to discern truth over error, Stand in God the Father of the risen Son Jesus for us all is here to straighten each and everyone one of us out.
If my reaction or action to anything is not of God's real love as in 1 Cor 13:4-7, then I am in error
Read verses 1-3, seeing 4-7, then 8-12, then verse 13
See you, me and anyone else born of flesh and blood before and after Jesus the only one perfect for us to be perfect through his done work to us, is seriously for us all to be born again by God Father of it all, to now say thank you and rest in trust to God over it all, and stop work ourselves as in. Hebrews 4:9-13 tells us all about it, to me at least. Time to start growing up Hebrews 5:12- Chapter 6 seeing verse 3 of Chapter 6, asking God to reveal this truth and trusting God to do the tin God's timing not our own timing or this world's timing
 

Stokie

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If you’re a born again Christian then you won’t be here when the Antichrist rises to prominence anyway. Jesus will be back to claim His church before that and we will be gone.

During the tribulation period people will still come to Christ but will be martyred for their belief, the rest will take the mark of the beast and worship the Antichrist. If you’ve taken the mark you’ve pledged your allegiance to the Antichrist and rejected Jesus and that cannot be reversed.

We really aren’t too far away from this now.
 

p_rehbein

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How do you receive this mark in your forehead and hands? Through lack of knowledge and deception. II Thes 2:3-4 and Rev 12:7-9 tell us that Satan will be cast out of heaven to earth and will come claiming to be God and will deceive the people into worshipping him. Many are not aware that Satan comes first before Jesus and will show great signs and wonders to deceive them. They will think he is God and receive his mark of deception in their forehead (brain) because they think he is God and will worship him. They will also work for his fake ministry to bring in converts thus receiving the mark in their hands which is symbolic of working for his ministry. Mark 13:9-11 tells us that God's elect will be delivered up before Satan to testify against him and expose his lies with the Holy Spirit speaking through them. When people hear the truth of this testimony, many will be ashamed that they were deceived.
Who are these "many" you speak of in your Comments?

BTW: Receiving the mark of the Beast is not mentioned in the 13th Chapter of Mark. Is this just your belief? I would be cautious of "adding to" Scripture.

5And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:

6For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

7And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.

8For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.

9But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.

10And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

11But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.
 

Saul-to-Paul

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If you’re a born again Christian then you won’t be here when the Antichrist rises to prominence anyway. Jesus will be back to claim His church before that and we will be gone.

During the tribulation period people will still come to Christ but will be martyred for their belief, the rest will take the mark of the beast and worship the Antichrist. If you’ve taken the mark you’ve pledged your allegiance to the Antichrist and rejected Jesus and that cannot be reversed.

We really aren’t too far away from this now.
How will someone come to Christ without a preacher?

Romans 10:14
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Romans 10:17
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
 

homwardbound

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If you’re a born again Christian then you won’t be here when the Antichrist rises to prominence anyway. Jesus will be back to claim His church before that and we will be gone.

During the tribulation period people will still come to Christ but will be martyred for their belief, the rest will take the mark of the beast and worship the Antichrist. If you’ve taken the mark you’ve pledged your allegiance to the Antichrist and rejected Jesus and that cannot be reversed.

We really aren’t too far away from this now.
Therefore, believe, receive and see
God seriously loves us all y'all, and I am thankful have. a great day
 

TMS

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Does anyone see the connection between Dan 7 and Rev 13.

The little horn and beast
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

42 months = 3 and half years

Time, times and dividing of time.
1, 2, and half = 3 and half.

Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
 

Stokie

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How will someone come to Christ without a preacher?

Romans 10:14
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Romans 10:17
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
The whole world will hear the two preachers.
 

homwardbound

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Saul-to-Paul said:
How will someone come to Christ without a preacher?

Romans 10:14
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Romans 10:17
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
The whole world will hear the two preachers.

The work is done by Son for us all to hear from within us, each person knows the truth within themselves and then choose to believe God or not in Son as risen for them too or not
In the day that is coming one day, no one, not one will be with any valid excuse, no not one
Thank you God fro be righteous all the way through it all. Love and mercy is to all to either beleive this or not! Thank you
 

Stokie

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Saul-to-Paul said:
How will someone come to Christ without a preacher?

Romans 10:14
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Romans 10:17
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
The whole world will hear the two preachers.

The work is done by Son for us all to hear from within us, each person knows the truth within themselves and then choose to believe God or not in Son as risen for them too or not
In the day that is coming one day, no one, not one will be with any valid excuse, no not one
Thank you God fro be righteous all the way through it all. Love and mercy is to all to either beleive this or not! Thank you

After the rapture the whole world will hear the two preachers… for a while anyway.
 

TMS

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identify the beast and you can work out his mark.

work with Rev and Dan

The identifying marks are all there.