Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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cv5

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Now the Donald is saying the temporary protected status of legal migrants in Springfield, OH has to be revoked. He keeps saying Springfield was a "beautiful community" before they came; we all know "beautiful" means "white." Those immigrants are hurting no one; he's basing this solely on the ridiculous lie that they're eating dogs and cats. This is truly a wicked and evil man.

The hapless migrants are mere pawns in a criminal election fraud conspiracy.

A conspiracy that you are a willing accessory to. You know....aiding and abetting.

Bummer being you.
 

ZNP

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A hypocrite is an actor wearing a mask. When Jesus accused the religious leaders of being hypocrites He was saying that unbelievers with reprobate minds and hearts were wearing a mask, just like Lucifer does, pretending to be angels of light when in fact they were involved in the occult, pagan worship, and every evil. As a result the term hypocrite has taken on another meaning which is they say one thing but do another.

Jesus talked about those who sit in Moses seat, they don't lift one pinky to help carry the burdens they put on others, so they are hypocrites. However, because they are pushing the word of God you should do the things they say and not the things they do.

For example, Resident Alien has pointed out an applicable verse.

"I was a stranger and you did not take Me in," Matthew 25:43
Kamala Harris did let the strangers in. She did feed, clothe and house them. Not with her money, not with her food, not with her home, but with yours. As a result she has almost nothing to give the victims of Helene and we are now told that there will be nothing for the victims of the next big disaster this year.

Matthew 23:2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
 

ZNP

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Isaiah 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and the Lord shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity; 10 And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noon day: 11 And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not. 12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in. 13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: 14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the Lord; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.
 

Smoke

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When a moderator deliberately interfered with whatever Vance wanted to say, how could anyone be pleased with this bogus debate? Their rules even called for no fact-checking and no shutting down the mic of the person speaking. Both these rules were broken.

And you say that you were impressed with Walz? Was that sarcasm or do you avoid the proof of your own eyes (if indeed you watched).
Top Pollster’s Focus Group Overwhelmingly Gives Victory To Vance Over Walz In VP Debate (dailywire.com)
When pressed by CNN how the group felt about Walz, he said they felt the first 30 minutes the Gov. was “stumbling” and “struggled,” but got better as the debate went on. He also said the focus group didn’t give him as high marks as Vance because they were critical of how Walz wasn’t “answering the questions” that the moderators posed to him.

Walz's performance was a total disaster, and only the dishonest MSM will refuse to admit it. Stumbling and struggling and looking like a deer caught in the headlights (as one picture showed). And lying through his teeth, like Harris.
I think you missed the key word in my post. I was "more" pleased with the VP debate rather than the presidential debate for a few reasons. The candidates actually debated substantively, the moderators were not AS biased against Vance as they were Trump, and there was a level of respect amongst the candidates.

There are two ways to view a debate performance: technically/stylistically and ideologically. Of course I prefer Vance's ideological framework exponentially more than Walz, this much ought to be a given. Technically/stylistically, I think it's clear that Vance crushed Walz. If not for the moment Vance was asked about the 2020 election, I could argue Vance threw a no hitter the entire debate. And to Walz's credit, he actually debated more honestly than Kamala.
 

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Will J.D.Vance be loyal to Donald Trump or the constitution?
Trump has only been loyal to himself throughout his entire life.
Inciting the Jan 6 insurrection (among other things) shows that his ego and objectives take precedence over the U.S. constitution.
J.D Vance is fully aware of Trump's unscrupulous and self-centered nature. But since Vance is akin to an ambitious frat boy in the Republican establishment, he will say whatever is necessary or stay silent to appease Trump and his cronies.
 

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You know they're very much cursed according to the Bible for letting the foreign invasion happen, more cursed are they then for aiding the foreigner while neglecting the American people. Cursed are they when they walk in and cursed are they when they walk out. Cursed is the people who is the tail because of their sins and their godless and wicked ideologies that let the foreign invaders get up very high over them. For a certainty the foreign invasion and the conduct of this government in helping the foreigners and hurting the people is a curse and not a blessing. So the great election of the clear choice between Trump and the blessings or Kamala and the curses are ever before all eyes. The distinction can only get clearer so that there will be no excuses before the throne for what God does to the nation next.

 

cv5

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You know they're very much cursed according to the Bible for letting the foreign invasion happen, more cursed are they then for aiding the foreigner while neglecting the American people. Cursed are they when they walk in and cursed are they when they walk out. Cursed is the people who is the tail because of their sins and their godless and wicked ideologies that let the foreign invaders get up very high over them. For a certainty the foreign invasion and the conduct of this government in helping the foreigners and hurting the people is a curse and not a blessing. So the great election of the clear choice between Trump and the blessings or Kamala and the curses are ever before all eyes. The distinction can only get clearer so that there will be no excuses before the throne for what God does to the nation next.

https://christianchat.com/christian...esidential-debate.215602/page-67#post-5373943

Pls review the last 5 pages. Outrageous.
 

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gb9

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Trump has only been loyal to himself throughout his entire life.
Inciting the Jan 6 insurrection (among other things) shows that his ego and objectives take precedence over the U.S. constitution.
J.D Vance is fully aware of Trump's unscrupulous and self-centered nature. But since Vance is akin to an ambitious frat boy in the Republican establishment, he will say whatever is necessary or stay silent to appease Trump and his cronies.
trump did not incite an insurrection on j 6 because there was not one.

a few hundred people out of a crowd of over half a million got out of control and did things they should not have done.


that is all there is to that...
 

Nehemiah6

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trump did not incite an insurrection on j 6 because there was not one. a few hundred people out of a crowd of over half a million got out of control and did things they should not have done. that is all there is to that...
You are right on all points, and those are the facts. And let's not forget the FBI's role in inciting people to be troublesome so that they could later on be arrested and put into a Gulag. This was all planned. And let's not forget how the Capitol police opened the doors and invited people into the Capitol.

Those were patriots exercising their right to protest a fraudulent election. Actually there should have been a real insurrection, and Pelosi, Biden, Harris, and Pence among others should have been arrested. Trump was totally INNOCENT, but again the idea was to weaponize this incident against him. The Democrats are wicked and evil. Period. And true_believer is a true believer in promoting evil and evildoers.
 

gb9

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You are right on all points, and those are the facts. And let's not forget the FBI's role in inciting people to be troublesome so that they could later on be arrested and put into a Gulag. This was all planned. And let's not forget how the Capitol police opened the doors and invited people into the Capitol.

Those were patriots exercising their right to protest a fraudulent election. Actually there should have been a real insurrection, and Pelosi, Biden, Harris, and Pence among others should have been arrested. Trump was totally INNOCENT, but again the idea was to weaponize this incident against him. The Democrats are wicked and evil. Period. And true_believer is a true believer in promoting evil and evildoers.
a older lady i know well, her grandson did 45 days in a federal pen last year for going into the capital on j 6.

he had video of the cops waving them in.

the judge in his trial refused to allow the video to be entered in the case.
 

ZNP

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Well you can be sure they are not giving billions overseas "out of the goodness of their heart". What is happening in Ashville and East Palestine, etc is proof of how black their heart is.

No, if they are giving some country billions you know it is because they have some kind of blackmail material on them.

 

cv5

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Everyone has seen this? Better see it again. And come to terms with the shocking reality of the propaganda organs and their criminality.

(1) James O'Keefe on X: "BREAKING: @MSNBC Producer Admits MSNBC Is 'Doing All They Can to Help’ the Harris Campaign During an undercover date with an OMG journalist, Basel Hamdan (@BaselYHamdan), a writer and producer for MSNBC’s show “Ayman,” (@AymanMSNBC) was asked what the network has done to assist https://t.co/y9Yk8o1UX7" / X

BREAKING: @MSNBC Producer Admits MSNBC Is 'Doing All They Can to Help’ the Harris Campaign During an undercover date with an OMG journalist, Basel Hamdan (@BaselYHamdan), a writer and producer for MSNBC’s show “Ayman,” (@AymanMSNBC) was asked what the network has done to assist the Kamala Harris campaign.

Hamdan revealed on hidden camera that “what her [Harris’s] message of the day is, is their message of the day,” as MSNBC actively pushes Harris’s narrative to help her win.

He admitted that MSNBC is doing “all they can to help,” Harris get elected, with the network operating as an extension of the campaign.

He went on to say, "MSNBC is indistinguishable from the party," further highlighting their partisan agenda.

In discussing the relationships between the MSNBC hosts and Democratic politicians, Hamdan reveals, ”The anchor and the politician are just in total agreement about everything.” He adds, “If you watch an interview with a Democratic politician, they just finish each other's sentences.”