selling replica items ... marked replica

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jacko

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would you consider this a sin?
 

jacko

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copy of xyz brand name knife... not trying to trick the consumer at all.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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copy of xyz brand name knife... not trying to trick the consumer at all.
I'm not sure what you are asking.
Can you give another example?
I am familiar with the Chinese practice of using their population to copy everything and selling it back to America and other parts of the world. This undercuts the price of the original manufacturer. I have never heard of a knife that has been branded and says it's a replica. There are cheap replica wall hanger swords and fantasy knives. Those are usually not seen as the genuine article when purchased, but cheap knock offs.
 

Gideon300

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copy of xyz brand name knife... not trying to trick the consumer at all.
That's not the point. It's probably OK. How do you copyright a knife design? But you don't want to find yourself in court or with a product that you can't sell. Or both.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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That's not the point. It's probably OK. How do you copyright a knife design? But you don't want to find yourself in court or with a product that you can't sell. Or both.
In America there's a patent office that supposed to protect special designs.
ChiComs use it as a data base to manufacture the designs cheaper using slave labor.
 

seoulsearch

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would you consider this a sin?
copy of xyz brand name knife... not trying to trick the consumer at all.
I don't know if God will tell you directly, "Yes, this is ok," or "No, don't do this," but He might, so I would definitely pray about it first.

The moral issue for me would be, "Who is deserving the credit/profit from the design, and am I stealing from the original designers by selling copies, even if everyone knows they are copies?"

I know that nothing is new and most everything in some way is a copy of something else. But I actually struggle with this myself.

I love T-shirts with a variety of characters (Transformers, 80's cartoons, Super Mario Bros., etc.) but the best ones I find are always on internet stores in which artists are either blatantly stealing the designs or refashioning them from large companies without permission to make their own profits. I always ask myself, "As a Christian, should I buy them?"

The thing is, a lot of people don't mind if it's the little guy making a profit off a huge corporation that has enough money to legally defend itself.

But the problem is that now a lot of large corporations are copying designs from online creators, making them in mass production, and reeling in the profits -- when obviously, the individual creators don't have the means to fight back. (I watch some artist's channels on YouTube who openly talk about this problem when putting your designs online.)

So it becomes a matter of, "Who is allowed to copy whom, and when does it become a legal issue?" Is it somehow right if someone little is making money off someone bigger?

One thing you might want to ask yourself is, "If someone copied MY copy and made a profit off of it, how would I feel? Would I be ok with someone making money off of my own copy? And what do I believe God would say about it?"
 

Gideon300

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In America there's a patent office that supposed to protect special designs.
ChiComs use it as a data base to manufacture the designs cheaper using slave labor.
True. Some inventors refuse to patent their products for that reason.
 

jacko

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copy of logo too.. basically, I know it's not the right things to do.. There is just a big demand in the market place and again not trying to hustle anyone but probably the OEM would have problems with it. So it's a pass on the opportunity as a side hustle.
 

Karlon

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would you consider this a sin?
a replica is an exact "copy" or remake of the real thing. selling it marked "replica" is the correct thing to do because that's what it is & the purchaser has no claim against you. you were honest & labeled the article "replica". i have been in the antique business since 1980 & i have never had a complaint about anything i ever sold because i'm always honest.
 

jacko

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a replica is an exact "copy" or remake of the real thing. selling it marked "replica" is the correct thing to do because that's what it is & the purchaser has no claim against you. you were honest & labeled the article "replica". i have been in the antique business since 1980 & i have never had a complaint about anything i ever sold because i'm always honest.
What about the OEM manufacturer? I would have no issues with the buyer this I know.
 

jacko

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Per ChatGPT


Whether selling a replica item marked as “replica” on eBay is a sin depends on several factors, including legality, honesty, and ethical considerations. From a Christian perspective, sin is often defined by whether an action violates God's commandments or causes harm to others, including through dishonesty or injustice.

### 1. **Honesty and Integrity**
- **Biblical Principle**: The Bible calls Christians to act with integrity and honesty in all dealings. Proverbs 11:1 says, “The Lord detests dishonest scales, but accurate weights find favor with him.” Selling a replica item as long as it is clearly marked and not intended to deceive the buyer can align with this principle of honesty.

- **Application**: If you are transparent that the item is a replica and not the original, you are being honest with potential buyers. However, the nature of the item being a replica can still be seen as problematic if it promotes counterfeit culture.

### 2. **Obeying the Law**
- **Biblical Principle**: Romans 13:1-2 teaches that Christians should obey the laws of the land. Selling counterfeit or replica goods may be illegal in some countries or regions, depending on the brand or product in question.

- **Application**: eBay and other platforms often have strict policies on selling replicas or counterfeit items. Selling these items could result in legal consequences or violations of eBay’s policies, which would make the action wrong in this context.

### 3. **Consideration of Harm**
- **Biblical Principle**: Jesus calls us to love our neighbors (Matthew 22:39), which includes not causing harm through our actions. Even though selling a marked replica might seem harmless, the production and sale of replicas can harm the original creators or brands by infringing on intellectual property rights.

- **Application**: If selling replicas supports practices that hurt the original brand or creators financially or undermines fair business practices, this could be considered unethical, thus straying from biblical principles of fairness and love for others.

### Summary:
- If the sale is **legal**, the item is clearly **marked as a replica**, and you are **transparent** with buyers about what they are purchasing, selling the item may not necessarily be sinful.
- However, if the sale violates **laws**, **platform policies**, or **harms** others (including the creators or original brand), then it could be considered unethical and against biblical principles, which would make it sinful.

Considering these factors is important to make a decision that aligns with both your faith and ethical business practices.