The hatred of Jews

This is what I mean by usurpation of Christians with those claiming to be Jews (who are not). It seems you subscribe to these beliefs also. When I read scripture, it speaks about the saints (that is Christians) reigning with Christ - not unbelieving Pharisees who claim to be Jews (and are not).

1 Corinthians 6:2 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

that in most respects it is like hitting your head against a brick wall…

That it is indeed.
Welcome to Christian Chat, tis good that those who have learned the truth add their voices in.

Thank you, yes indeed and I could share so much more… I have learnt far more these last 4 years than I have my entire life… (just remember I too was deceived for 23 years! Then the grace of Jesus / Yahshua opened my eyes…)

I know who is who and why…

I also know that since April / May this year "officially" we are in WW3 and that one of the next big things that will take place is Russia's further invasion of Europe…

"They" can orchestrate prophecy and think they control everything but always remember the Book / chaper Of Obidiah is waiting…

It is always darkest before the dawn and right now we are approaching the darkest time period…

This is what I mean by usurpation of Christians with those claiming to be Jews (who are not). It seems you subscribe to these beliefs also. When I read scripture, it speaks about the saints (that is Christians) reigning with Christ - not unbelieving Pharisees who claim to be Jews (and are not).

1 Corinthians 6:2 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

This is what I mean by usurpation of Christians with those claiming to be Jews (who are not). It seems you subscribe to these beliefs also. When I read scripture, it speaks about the saints (that is Christians) reigning with Christ - not unbelieving Pharisees who claim to be Jews (and are not).

1 Corinthians 6:2 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

I think T.B.Baines wrote a good comnentary about it.


Well, revealation
✝ Revelation 7:4

"And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed a hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel."

shows, that Israel plays a role during the tribulation time. And for shure when Jesus reigns in Jerusalem during the Millennium.
That we as body of Christ are be with Him is out of doubt. But we should not be do proud to think that we have replaced the Nation of Israel.

I am glad your eyes have been opened , it is no easy thing to escape programming, I am sure who were seeking and God moved you along in your pursuit of truth, continue on your journey and you will find this mapped out futurist end times devised by people like John Hagee and his ilk starting with Scofield fake commentary is also a counterfeit.

It's quite a long bow to draw to interpret this to be saying that only physical Jews will reign with Jesus while the spiritual Jews will not. Especially because it mentions children of Israel (of which physical Jews would only be a subset, if it was talking literal descendants of Israel). You know by faith Christians are children of Abraham, right?

Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Not sure that anyone is being proud or talking about replacing anyone else, except you with the physical Jews replacing Christians in the thousand year reign with Jesus.

Where i said that physical jews replaced Christians? Maby you should read my post again?

In Future they will rule the world, with Jesus Christ on their thrown in Jerusalem!

Are you denying you posted the below about physical Jews? Perhaps it is you who should keep better track of what you post?

God moved you along in your pursuit of truth

Eh? Is this something God does for everyone?

God opens the eyes of those who are truly willing to have their eyes opened while [also] having a desire to know the truth.

That would be a person who is already saved and yet the person does need to apply some level of intelligence, critical thinking and reasoning in conjunction with God showing them the errors in what they have been taught.

The SS Liberty is a good starting point.

Indeed the SS Liberty is a big eye opener. Basically it can start with that. There are excellent sources which can be pointed to but one must be aware that I had to admit that the greater part of my life I was deceived. There is a cost as it does require a lot of research and those that do know world wide are a very small percentage compared to the norm.

It is complicated I think, I was reading about indoctrination and conditioning. I thi

Ironically when it comes to this particular deception often it is non-believers who see "the light" so to speak.
I think we do go through a bit of a grieving process, angry about allowing oneself to be indoctrinated.

I think the USS Liberty is reveals a lot because there are transcripts and evidence and their are statements by the men on the ship which corroborate with the evidence.

It is a small percentage, but it is growing because the violence perpetrated by the IDF is documented and on video by the investigative journalists who manage to escape their sniper bullets.

I went through a period where I was deceived by Zionism. The USS Liberty was one of those inconvenient truths I couldn't get my head around, so tended to ignore. It was clear the Liberty was attacked by Israel, and the excuses it was a mistake were readily debunked by too much evidence. The best I could come up with was some conspiracy theory that the Liberty was somehow being used in a secret plot against Israel, but it still didn't explain the (Israeli) war crime of trying to kill the survivors (as if opening fire on an allied ship were not bad enough).

When I left Zionism, I found what makes a lot more sense is simply the Rothschild State of Israel (not necessarily all those claiming to be Jews) is a criminal state, and terrorism and warcrimes are just part of its modius operandi.

Israel, taking names and kicking butt!!

Hezbollah Confirms Its Leader, Hassan Nasrallah, Killed By Israeli Strike

Those Jews be just too dang smart for the children of the bondwoman.

Thank you for sharing... I don't know if you are aware but this all begins at the beginning of it all...

You are correct about the state of rothchilds... They are one of the big families of the cabal and they have all their "faces" to hide behind.. The USS Liberty did give me a question mark but it wasn't in itself the catalyst that led me to find out the truth. However looking back it added to that question mark...

When things are examined and found wanting then the question mark becomes even bigger another one was what the wailing wall really is
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